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Jeffo

Didn't believe, but they played insane with a stand in and deserve it.
The kids can game

Mortadelo

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I really didn't understand why the roster was being so hated from the beginning

Jeffo

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I don't think people including me hated on a bunch of 18 years old, i knew they were cracked, but a new team of young kids is expected to have a hard time playing against way more experienced teams.
But they did great, and I'm happy I was wrong.

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Mortadelo

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Yes and no, I did not expect people to rank them high, I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and say that I did, precisely because as you said they're all young rookies. But for some reason people has KC Top5, when to me it's the exact same concept

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Obsidian_Echo

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Engh bias for KC imo

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Mortadelo

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That's definitely a factor, you're right. But still a massive difference

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Jeffo

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I believe in KC, but not for many reasons, mainly for ENGHHH, and that's basically it.
If ENGHHH was on TH I would've been high on them, i didn't believe in neilizinho ngl.

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Mortadelo

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Fair enough, I also believe way more in Engh than Niel, but I do not believe the players they picked up are more talented than Th's

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Jeffo

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I have no clue, i only watch tomasczy for a game or 2, narrate and marteen are insane, i don't like magnum and sh1n is not bad.

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Mortadelo

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Not as high on marteen as most people, tomascy is very good, agree with everything else, but all of them are learning new roles tho

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rtg9000

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I just wrote them off because of boo as igl lmfao I won't lie, didn't rate benjyfishy very highly either last year

GreyDaze

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I had very low expectations on riems and benjy. And also boo's poor form last season despite him being great on oglu, i didnt trust he would step up. And especially without woot, I thought they stood no chance

_angelmrm_

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Mortadelo, lo hemos hecho jajajajaja soy la persona más feliz del mundo xd

Gutssz

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my friend i know you, you know me

this roster is not that good compared to others

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Mortadelo

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This roster will not finish the year above FUT in my opinion. But you know Riens, and Woot are S tier prospects. And I know you weren't high on MiniBoo but I have always been. About Boo, he was straight up dogshit last year and I do not expect him to play like this moving forward, but he is very emotional and last years environment wasn't it. Benjy well, xD

Anyway my problem is the incoherence of ranking this young team low and others high

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Gutssz

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actually i liked him a lot when he diff Izzy (he always diffed enemy duelist until meet Miniboo in t2) but i was thinking this year maybe too early for him but i was wrong

benjy should be consistent and RieNs probably will be best TH player imo (you can say this is hot take but i believe it)

Woot is just goat

I listed good things, but in general their current experience won't be enough for them and they will probably get stuck somewhere imo (they are my 3rd fav team in EMEA actually because of RieNs and Woot and i hope they will play good VALORANT

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Mortadelo

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Fair enough, I do think Riens will pick up the pace a lot, probably not their best player simply because he has a very unselfish profile (idk wtf is jamppi saying btw). But that's the thing, talent wise is not the problem, problem is Boo is not a proven IGL and they're all rookies

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Gutssz

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CS joke (about Jamppi)

yeah i think FUT played bad today and never happen again imo but still TH won and they deserved
RieNs is just different actually and with Woot... Heretics will be very flexible team and if Boo can prove himself in League maybe they can achieve interesting things :)

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Mortadelo

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Yes, Fut just needs to figure it out

Targu1n

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It depends what kind of hate you mean
Rated as a bottom 3? Cores performance last year + offseason performance - I dont think its unreasonable to not expect Boo to outaim cned suddenly

Hated as in that they picked up the wrong new youngsters? Just people who dont watch t2

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Mortadelo

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Agree with both takes. My point is more as I'm trying to clarify now is the incoherence of ranking similar projects way higher

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Targu1n

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oh yea, thats just the engh effect tbh
KC is way higher risk too since Magnum is new to being igl (though I trust that the t2 boys can get another upset)

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wizardbot

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Yep exactly lmao, they also have W00t who didn't even play today. And that kid might be the best player on the roater

WhatADrag

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Boo brothers on the top. They fucked FUT

Targu1n

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Ngl my boo stocks are back to the OGLU levels
Boo is the future confirmed