If lev signs pancc...

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not cheering for them anymore, sorry kingg, aspas, mazino and nozwer, I can't support a fucking pedo.
Havoc save us please 😭😭

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Idk why there's so many Brazilian reports I don't trust rn. I'm gonna take Lembo's word on this since he's as close as it gets to LEV, pancc is not joining LEV

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cry is free

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Cry what lol

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NPC moment 😹😹😹

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its my time to shine!!

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I think pancc is the last option if shyy goes to kru and they don't sign havoc
it really makes sense, but it's disappointing on the part of Fer

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His words were LEV has a list of several options and pancc is not one of them at all, really don't know where that information is coming from

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i mean noyn its infiltrated somehow so...

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Nyon reports things way too soon many times and backs up. On Lev reports you're not gonna beat Lembo, mf is who recommended goked to LEV's CEO, has hanged out with the players and staff, gave the exclusive on Nzr, reported the whole way through Keznit situation last year, and started the aspas campaign

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By what definition is he a pedo?

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Adult who likes minors, would be the objective definition

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so a guy 18y who has an atraction towards a 17y is a pedo?

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By the definition of it. And Ik what you mean, you're accusing them of looking at the situation through their society perspective. But I do not buy it, it is fucked up

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I just dislike a serious term being thrown around carelessly. I dont think he has the level for franchise valorant or support him in any way, but he did not commit any crime according to brazilian laws and doesnt fit on any desciprition on pedophilia that I've heard of.

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Not being a criminal doesn't mean you're an absolute dickhead, but fair ig

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Eles consideram isso pq nos EUA tem uma diferença enorme entre as pessoas que estão no colegial x faculdade
aqui no Brasil n tem tanta diferença que muita tem amizade com pessoal de todas as idades, quando eles veem essa diferença de 4-5 anos eles já pensam que foi manipulada ou algo do gênero pq na cultura deles n tem como alguém mais velho conhecer alguem mais novo, já aq no BR oq tu mais vê é pessoal de 16-17 em festas com pessoal de 19-20 anos.

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A 23yr old and 16yr old is nowhere near 18/17 bro WAKE UP

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By the definition you guys are trying to imply it is exactly the same.

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how do you define it then? Does pancc's situation fit that description?

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I dont define it, I let more capable people do it. From what i've read the most common definition is of someone (16y+) being sexually attracted to another person that has not yet developed his/her body (prepubescent teens), usually under the age of 13. Some sources include a 5 year gap between them to describe it as a disease.

On pancc's situation, he talked about having sex and asked for "exclusive" sexual pictures of a 15y girl that he met on twitter, where she was posting those pictures (if i'm not mistaken, twitter is for 18y+).

Personally I think any guy that does that is a douche and a loser that cant go for girls his own age and try to find whatever hes looking for on younger girls, but it is not a crime in Brazil ( age of consent is 14), and I dont think it is pedophilia (which i think is for actual children)

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Yes, the definition that you understand the word by. That is what I meant. Helps me understand your point of view.

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He sexually harassed her.

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He didn't. They were both flirting, go check the screenshots.

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Whatever definition of pedo you use, a 23 year old soliciting sex from a 16 year old girl falls under it

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It doesnt under the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) which is the standard resource of the mental health industry in the United States and is widely used by mental health professionals throughout the world. Nor under the World Health Organization (WHO)'s definition of pedophilia. Also not sure if you are aware of the differences or how well the case was translated,if you read it at all, but soliciting isnt the same as asking.

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mf brought out the manuals lmaoo
if you hear that a 23 year old tried to get sexual favors from a minor and your first reaction is to question and search up the definition of a pedophile you have some problems man

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Nah bro, don't even try to argue they just cannot comprehend at all.
What we consider wrong would be if pancc taken initiative.

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Pedophile is colloquially used by English speakers to refer to pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia. Bring up DSM here is irrelevant considering legislative bodies don't reference diagnostic tools used by the American Psychiatric Association in their legislature. On top of this, attempts to coerce children/ adolescents into creating child porn breaches Brazil's "Code of Minors" - specifically Art. 240, Art. 241-D and Art. 241-E. Really weird behavior from people on this forum trying to justify a predator's behavior, unless they're more similar to Pancc than they're leading on

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Its not irrelevant to the discussion here. None of his acts fall under those articles you mentioned. I'm not trying to justify a predator behavior. Not sure what you meant by your last sentence, what am I leading on by bringing both medical and legal povs to a discussion?
The only time I stated my personal opnion on this thread I said he's a douche and a loser.

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Same

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Don’t worry support Tyloo!

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W Lev

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Lev won't sign him.
https://gyazo.com/e9a0b7855d370a7af29e9e9cc74c2ed6

Translation:
don't sign pancc, LEV wil lose the support from a lot of people

he won't come

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VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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pancc has actually been competing in cs and valorant for 16 years!!! to view his amazing come up stories, search up “pancc 16 years” on google

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On the same vein as benzema 15

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They haven't even trialed him. They were training with havoc and other players from NA. The same source that said that kingg was practicing with BR teams while he was on vacation without access to a computer, is the one that shared this info lmao