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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

This is not average braindead duelist biased list with kangkang and jinggg in top 5, i try to include every role as much as possible

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FNC Alfajer
EG Demon1
LOUD Less
FNC Leo
PRX f0rsaken
LOUD cauanzin
FNC Chronicle
LOUD aspas
TL nAts
PRX Jinggg
EG Ethan
EG jawgemo
DRX MaKo
EDG CHICHOO
FNC Derke
PRX mindfreak
NaVi suygetsu
TL Sayf
NRG s0m
DRX Zest
NaVi Shao

HONORABLOS MENTIONES: GIA Cloud, KRU keznit

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Explain why jinggg is above aspas?

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they have almost identical stats except in lock in, but prx had generally better placements this year so i put them like this

how would you suggest to change?

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How are people thinking jinggg and aspas are similar statistically.

+--------+----------+------------------+-------+-----------+-------------------------+
| NAME   | LOCK//IN | AMERICAS/PACIFIC | TOKYO | CHAMPIONS | Overall VCT 2023 RATING |
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| Aspas  |     1.12 |             1.23 |  1.04 |      1.15 |                    1.17 |
+--------+----------+------------------+-------+-----------+-------------------------+
| Jinggg |     0.97 |             1.11 |  1.05 |      0.99 |                    1.06 |
+--------+----------+------------------+-------+-----------+-------------------------+

There's so much wrong with this list.
How is nAts top 8? he's not even the most influential player on his own team.
TL didn't even have a deep run at a international event

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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Updated

I will not go and update for every comment now shits exhausting

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then leave it to the dedicated ppl like capital_d_colon to make these posts

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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no

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stopped reading at FNC

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Chronicle after this horrible performance at the most important event of the season

Also nats above goatzin and goatpas? blasphemy

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Good now

nAts still above aspas IMO, aspas is rock solid but nAts has dogshit team look at his games always topriding leaderboard (except LOUD game but they got buttfucked igl + coach + team issue)

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FNC Alfajer

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?

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BLG ZETA FUT

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its the stats of the whole fucking year lmao, aint no way alfajer played 1000+ rounds in a single tournament 💀

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Even worse. Whole emea league worth of farming

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cope + seethe + mald

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going to emea is jus like cr7 going to arabia

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Top 7 in Lock in (of 200+ Rounds) --> 1st Placed
Top 1 in EMEA League --> 2nd Placed
Top 1 in Tokyo --> 1st Placed
Top 4 in Champions --> 4th Placed

how is he not Top 1????

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Players like suygetsu shao and nats did nothing this year why they are here
Also kankang might be overhype but he definitely in top 20 players itw

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nAts is still an incredible player dropping insane numbers EVEN WHEN THE TEAM IS LOSING (that shows that he is not dependent on team performance, and him losing is team issue and not nAts issue)

shao top 2 in lock in, insane in emea league
suygetsu only solid navi player throughout all year

kangkang one tournament wonder he is just skrossi but doesnt whiff that much, if he redeems himself next year he is top 20 fasho

this list is not primarly based of team achievements but by individual performance

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33AJ

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Its just ur emea biased don't wanna argue any further even som was more impressive than suygetsu nats and shao this year

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I think that if you wanted to make a list just by looking at performances you missed a lot of players like Zekken, Monyet, Zyppan, Buzz, Dgzin that were much better and consinstent than like Mindfreak or Zest

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No something No mako No kangkang this is prolly the worst list i've saw on this site💀

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something and kangkang played one tournament only braindead kids like u would put them up there with such small sample size

mako is good point

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KK played 2 and he is the best AWP of 2023 and Nats won 1 international series in all of 2023. Braindead

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got exposed in champs, if it wasnt for EDG team playing out of their minds they wouldve been out

on the other hand nAts has a whole team issue and still performed well (except vs LOUD)

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something and kangkang played one tournament

Than why CHICHOO is there LMAO?He played good in ond tourney kk carried them in tokyo

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because he plays a way more difficult role

played like a god in LOCK IN (way better than kk)
solid in tokyo
still performed in champions (best of edg)

kk is just highlight reel player, chichoo and smoggy are the real carries

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kangkang has played in 3 and even then you have lots of EG people who have only played in 2 tournaments, (not including lock//in). Putting jinggg over something I would consider a bit delusional but putting MINDFREAK over something and davai is just so delusional.

In what world is chichoo better than derke, suygetsu, shao and sayf.

Also cauanzin is not better than aspas.

Side edit: The best smokes player should not be ranked 13th best when I can tell you are going off kills and stats with this and smokes are not supposed to get kills but then mako who you considered the best smokes player is still in 13th.

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its basically impossible to make an objective list considering all roles, statistics and aspects of this game

you could argue that s0m is a better player than derke, is he really tho? they play different roles, different stats different everything

i tried my best to start a discussion but its kind of frustrating when all i get is random obese neckbeards sitting infront of their monitor calling this list braindead because it doesnt have their favourite player on it (this is not directed to you, or anybody in particular its just the reality and even im like that)

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don't make a list if you are not ready to take criticism and are not ready to get flamed because you will.

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mindfreak over davai????

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happy to see cauanzin in 6°, he's a beast and probably going to be higher next year

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I am enjoying the zest appreciation. He's often forgotten on drx and he played really well this year.

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in what world did suygetsu perform better than s0m this year? buzz also did much better than zest overall

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nats too high, davai>mindfreak, kk best awper of 2023 should be at the very least honorable mention, chronicle too high (was only good regionally but mid at every event this year), also sayf and s0m were a bit better than suygetsu this year

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yeah you have some good points but i will leave this list like it is, will get buried in 2 hours anyway xD

i will look to make a better one in the future, im starting to think of coding an algorithm for this

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chronicle, cauan, forsaken and leo above aspas?
nahh

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1 alfa; lockin, Tokyo mvp, top4 Champs plaing well and insane stats in vct emea
2 Leo; mvp lockin, Tokyo very good performance, vct emea good performance and good performance in Champs
3 demon1; good performance in vct americas and Tokyo and Champs mvp
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chronicle , cauanzin , forsaken above aspas this is joke , nats above derke wtf is that

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Admit it that you do 0 research about this list.

SKROSSI > your list 🗿🗿🗿

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TL nAts

besides shAts, good list

ACTUAL TOP 20 2023 (NO TROLL, SERIOUS, NO FRAUD)

This is not average braindead duelist biased list with kangkang and jinggg in top 5, i try to include every role as much as possible

OPEN FOR CHANGES