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Do PRX ban Haven or Fracture?

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#1
vollizie

against EG

#2
moatz
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If I was Alecks, I would ban

Fracture

#3
vollizie
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He would https://www.vlr.gg/player/5129/ban

#4
Pogtestic
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Ban pearl just for the lolz

#5
Yistyy
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You gotta ban fracture if you're prx, especially cuz EG has been banning haven themselves.

#6
Ultimate6989
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Is there an option for teams to just not ban at all? Like if both sides agree?

#14
polystove
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no

#7
Dybala21
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Both

#8
sleeek
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Fracture
They will play reyna on haven

#9
lipton13
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Ban fracture. EG dont play haven much (i think?) so it'll be a toss up between the two teams

lemme cook with a prediction
(EG goes first)
EG ban Bind, PRX ban Fracture, EG picks Ascent (PRX picks Atk) , PRX picks Lotus (EG picks Def) , EG ban Haven, PRX ban Split, Pearl last map

(PRX goes first)
PRX ban Fracture, EG ban Bind, PRX picks Pearl (EG picks Def), EG picks Split (PRX picks Def), PRX ban Haven, EG bans Lotus, Ascent 3rd map

ok now that i look at it in hindsight kinda dont make sense but ima just leave it here

#11
WhoseTao
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hypothetically, why would prx pick lotus over pearl?

#13
Agx192
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We have a better chance on fracture than ascent imo but if alecks doesn't ban fracture and we lose even if it is close they will say what is he doing

#15
MNFRKK
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Eerrr it’s just so risky to let go haven at first ban. I think they will go with fracture and banning haven like other matches

#16
Zerphyr1
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absolutely terrible prediction please never cook again. prx would never pick lotus over split or pearl and eg would not ban haven when they could ban split or pearl. Then on prx pick why would eg not pick ascent? why would they pick split which is their third or fourth best map when it is prx's 3rd best map.

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again I said it doesn't make sense me just surface level vct watcher me not understand intricracies of game

#10
CarnageBTC
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they wont ban fracture...their fracture is pretty good, if drx can make it close against eg, prx definietly has a chance to beat eg on fracture...atleast thats what i feel...but again its bo3, might not risk it

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Since both teams permaban Haven, they'd likely leave it as decider if either team prepped or the last ban would be Haven.

1st Bans Regardless of who goes first
EG - Pearl (PRX best map)
PRX - Fracture (EG best map)

Picks
EG - Ascent
PRX - Bind

2nd Bans would depend on who bans last and whether either team has prep for Haven
EG - Lotus
PRX - Haven unless PRX has prepped Haven

PRX - Split
EG - Haven unless EG has prepped Haven

Decider
Lotus / Split / Haven

#17
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Ban 1:
EG - Bind
PRX - Haven

Map Picks:
EG - Fracture
PRX - Pearl

Ban 2:
EG - Lotus
PRX - Ascent

Map 3: Split

#18
Zerphyr1
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never cook again.

#19
StutterSt3p
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lol, how do you see it then?

#21
Zerphyr1
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if EG are group A:
EG ban - Bind (could easily be haven).
PRX ban - Fracture
EG pick - Ascent
PRX pick - Pearl
EG ban - Split
PRX ban - Haven (could be lotus).
Lotus remains

#22
StutterSt3p
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I don't see why EG would ban Split instead of Lotus, they've literally first or second banned Lotus a few times this event. Also, I doubt PRX would actually ban Fracture considering their fracture is pretty good, and they probably feel much more at risk leaving Haven open, even against EG.

#23
Zerphyr1
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bc EG has a worst split than lotus + prx has a better split compared to lotus. The next part you say is very stupid. Prx have a good fracture but its probably their 4th and MAYBE 3rd best map out of 7 maps. Haven is a 50/50 between each teams so why would prx play fracture when they will most likely lost to eg on fracture?

#25
LeviaT
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Split and Lotus is a coinflip tbh, not sure if PRX has had their confidence swayed from the 2-13 L to LOUD on Split

#26
Zerphyr1
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prx still have a better split historically. One bad game on that map does not mean they are no longer good on that map. Also one of EG's worst maps is split. It's better than their bind and haven but that's it

#27
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What? EG's isn't really that good at Lotus, DRX just isn't that good either. They're definitely better at Split and they've literally banned Lotus. Also, your assumption is that PRX just auto-loses Fracture, but that's not how games work. Sure, EG has the best fracture but picks and bans are about assessing risk, and PRX might feel like they have a better chance on fracture than Haven.

EG has a lot of footage of their fracture, thus giving you things to anti-strat. Whereas their Haven has relatively low footage, and their form on that map is unknown. This really just comes down to how PRX feels about their Haven which I can't know for sure of course, but if they do not feel confident enough on it, I don't see why they'd pick it. Also also, fracture not being their top 2 maps doesn't mean much when your map pool is good. PRX fracture is still really good, and they could definitely beat EG on it if they're feeling it.

#29
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cmon this has to be bait now. Prx used to be a very good haven team and the one time they played it this year they won, they probably just dont feel that comfortable but historically they are a good haven team. assuming haven is a 50/50 which it's probably not since eg are a very anti strat team and how do they anti strat against prx who have only played a single game of haven + prx have a better haven. But if prx play fracture EG 100% would be the favourites to win that map.

Second point. PRX don't anti strat at all in comparison to other teams so your second argument would just be the other way round as EG are a heavy anti strat team and prx play fracture decently often.

The reasoning behind banning fracture instead of haven doesn't really have to do with how well prx is on fracture but more so the fact that EG are very good on fracture.

Sure if they are not feeling comfortable on haven they would ban it but the same can be said for fracture. So that point goes both ways so it's irrelevant.

#30
StutterSt3p
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They played Haven once this year and have been first banning it ever since. Whatever they have on Haven if anything at all, is clearly not good. Or at the very least they must believe it's their weakest map by a considerable margin enough to keep banning first every time.

PRX literally anti-stratted EDG on Fracture by exploiting them through drop on Attack. They aren't as reliant on it as a lot of other teams, but they do have some idea of how to counter opponents.

It doesn't matter how good EG's fracture is because you know your fracture is good enough to give you a chance to win. Whereas Haven is a massive question mark, which is why I could be super wrong. But I think PRX believes they'll have a better chance on a map where one, they know they're good at, and two, EG has a good amount of footage on.

#31
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first point can also be said for EG.

All teams know how to counter other teams through anti stratting and I even said that so I don't understand what you mean by this second point.

They don't really anti strat and eg change everything up each time they play fracture if you ever watch them play so the amount of footage doesn't mean anything. eg are better at fracture so why would u pick the mao in which you are obviously predicted to lose whereas haven it's a question mark like you said so it's way more 50/50.

#20
dogecoin
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Ban 1:
EG: Pearl
PRX: Fracture

PICKS:
EG: Ascent
PRX: Bind

BAN 2:
EG: Lotus
PRX: Haven

Map 3 Split

#24
Orangepanda
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EG (UB) and FNC (LB) will destroy this team and make APAC 0 TROPHY THIS YEAR

#28
smizuu
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alecks is gigachad , he will ban haven

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