WHICH TEAMS ARE GETTING OUT OF GROUPS

#1

The_Cleg

in champions 2023

Here are my odds

GROUP A
1. PRX (80%)
2. EDG (55%)
3. KRU (35%)
4. GIA (30%)
GROUP B
1. EG (95%)
2. FUT (50%)
3. T1 (45%)
4. FPX (10%)
GROUP C
1. FNC (95%)
2. NRG (70%)
3. ZETA (25%)
4. BLG (10%)
GROUP D
1. TL (65%)
2. LOUD (65%)
3. DRX (40%)
4. NAVI (30%)

Thoughts 🤔

#2

aylez

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agreed :>

only change would be to give navi at least the same chance as drx, if not a little higher

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The_Cleg

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I don't wanna be accused of B0TVI copium

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Nachtel

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Actually good odds

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The_Cleg

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I feel like maybe I'm underrating loud but we don't really know how to rate them after Tokyo

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Nachtel

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They lost to the team that ended up in 2nd the whole tournament and EDG who nobody knew how to deal with until TL.

I'm willing to cut them some slack tbh given their performance in the regular season shitting on everyone in their region, including NRG and EG

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The_Cleg

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It's true but C9 were shitting on people too (in regular szn tho, which is different), and yet look how they are now

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lsd_abuser

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yuchen masterclass so fpx 2-0 in group b

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sentinelmain377

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FNC (110%)*

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Zerphyr1

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So there is a chance they get both qualification slots?

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Thuuun

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loud x emea teams. Loud 100%

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Okbrook

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TL clears

#13

The_Cleg

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No shit loud (almost) always won against EMEA teams:

never faced FPX
lost to FNC at their strongest

Let's stop using this cheap narratives. Loud beat KC (💀), G2 and TL (close game). Loud is not an EU crasher, they were just better than 3/4 of the EMEA teams they faced. That's it lol. Are they now better than TL? That's a totally different question.

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WinterZ20

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I'd say youre underrating GIA but otherwise good ratings

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hanafuuji

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a bit pedantic but T1 looks better than FUT in tokyo bruh, T1 almost beat NRG and had a close matchup against EDG

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The_Cleg

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Only to get steamrolled out of the groups by EDG.

Imo FUT looked more solid than t1 (also they arguably put up a better performance against EG than LOUD)

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Valgod

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Fnatic 100%
Giants 100%
Fut 100%
Navi 100%
Liquid 100%

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Daxta

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This EMEA copium is getting out of hand

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Valgod

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China 0 trophies

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Maengboo

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World domination: ∞

#22

Qwerttyy

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at least china made it out of groups 💀

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lsd_abuser

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lol true

⚠️⚠️⚠️REVERSE SWEEP JUMPSCARE⚠️⚠️⚠️

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Daxta

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Just wait, China champs 2024

#20

kirrans

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BLG have 1% chance to get out of groups, there's simply no way

#24

The_Cleg

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They said this about EDG as well I feel like (not saying they are anywhere close to edg's level, but 10% is still pretty low)

#25

Hard2Decipher

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EDG 55%?LMAO
STFU with this cope, just based on one tournament(which is a fluke btw) people are overrating them
How about you take this iq test https://www.us.mensa.org/
And give me your scores so i can take this list more seriously

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Daxta

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Man what did EDG ever do to you

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Hard2Decipher

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I have nothing against EDG, but its the Zmjjkk fans who overhype the fuck out of him based on one tournament like that one no scope marshall ace on an eco round in VCT:CHINA btw, like c'mon i've seen TenZ do these on daily basis for years but these guys wont shut up
They are putting him on a pedestal like he is a f**king god.
Bro had one good tournament, and now he is top 10 players itw meanwhile players like derke,sayf, and crashies not making it on the list, if this isn't overrating idk what is

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Daxta

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Personally I do think that Kang Kang is starting to get a little overhyped, but you can't say that it's not deserved. If you look at his past tournaments, he has done well even when his team did badly, and he has had 200+ ACS for every international LAN he's played in

#29

The_Cleg

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I scored 125+ IQ once

#31

Hard2Decipher

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Your response of "125+" is truly a masterful display of mathematical ambiguity. But do tell, what compelled you to grace us with this cryptic response rather than a straightforward figure?
Your response itself shows you're lying, having an IQ below 100 is nothing to fret over relax

#32

The_Cleg

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I dont

#33

Hard2Decipher

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dont what?

#34

The_Cleg

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yes

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Hard2Decipher

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Hey, I can see that you're going through a tough time right now. Remember, there's no need to be all calm and collected; mental breakdowns are just a walk in the park!

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The_Cleg

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yes

#40

Hard2Decipher

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I'm here to listen and support you. You don't have to go through this alone.

#27

quiet_turtle

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Gia should be higher than EDG and Kru
T1 should be higher than Fut
Group C is fine
Loud should be higher than TL

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DarkraH

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are we really not considering the second place curse?

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The_Cleg

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there's no way EG's getting grouped right

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DarkraH

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yeah theres no way. i'm tripping

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BigAbdi

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GIA should have (a 45%) IMO

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pretty good other than that navi is too much

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FNC should be 100. Unless they're crypto throwing theres no way they dont.