YAY is still world class

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StoneRosesBestUKBand

Agree or disagree?

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Nachtel

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Agree. I think people vastly overrate the distance between tier 2 and tier 1 competition in NA.

I mean Sentinels kept getting shit on by MxM in scrims lately

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Fax M80 is a top 10 team in the world

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💀not top 10 bruh

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Yes top 10 bro

Top 10 ranking (no order)

1.LOUD

NRG
C9
EG
FNATIC
Liquid
T1
Drx
PRX
M80

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C9 🤣

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Tell me who is better?

You really think teams like GENG, NaVi, and fut are better than c9

You are underrating c9

They went 8-1 group stage and lost to an extremely good EG then lost in an extremely close match vs nrg that could’ve went either way

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Prontera

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How many weed do u smoke today, burger? I dont understand how a team who cant make it into masters somehow end up as a #3 team in the world.

And also put T1 over DRX & PRX. Damn man...

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Asuna_Yuuki

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I said it was in no order

I did it by region

Maybe read the full post before criticizing me

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Prontera

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Even u did it by region, it still dumb list. So please stop pretending to know anything anymore.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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What’s wrong with doing it by region?

It’s easy to keep track of

Now tell me what is wrong with my list?

I think you’re salty that I included a lot of Americas teams in my list

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XandUnderrated

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C9 is good when their mental is good. As soon as they lost to EG things just went downhill. The team is too young.

So, to your question. Group stage C9 is top 10. The actual C9 is not

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Then tell me who is top 10 over c9

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meadows

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nvm i hate when people do lists but put (no order) just do bullet points

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NoOne_ButMe

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The NA bais huh
Navi?
No way you think m80 is top 10

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navi not top 10 bro wake up

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EntryKJ

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Agree

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Agreed, only braindead fucks think otherwise

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Disagree until he gets picked up on a franchise team

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manca

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so anyone not in franchise is automatically not world class according to u

demon1 wasn't a franchise starter for half the season, that doesn't mean he's not world class

jake and runi weren't on franchise the beginning of the year, does that mean they weren't world class?

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DIEM

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I think Yay is still a world-class player, but in order to show off his prowess, he needs to be on the franchise team!

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Agree. DSG was a mess anyways, having yay or not having yay wouldn't have changed anything.

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XandUnderrated

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DSG was not good and they did a poor job setting him up, that's a fact. The thing is that the few opportunities that he had to impact a round, he whiffed.

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I don't disagree, but not gonna clown him for having one bad event for the first time in years.

If the problem persists when he returns to Tier 1, then yeah, he probably is washed.

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I think he could cook on sentinel or controller role. I don’t know if he could compete with the more explosive and aggressive jetts

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V0sotros

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fr, they should put him on sentinel or something, he can still awp pretty effectively on KJ and I think if a team picks him up they'd be inclined to use chamber more after his buff and his skill with awp

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Crosshair placement abuser. Watching KK op flicks make me realize how mediocre Y0y is

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we weren't in relegation battles at 24

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what do you mean by "world class"? If world class means he is top 50 in americas, then i guess he is still world class. he isnt top 10 anymore tho.

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yay could definitely be good with a team that sets him up better but i think he should become a sentinel player

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Prontera

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Judging by current performance, he isnt a world class player anymore. I know DSG is total shit, but he aint perform like he used to either.

But knowing him, when he find a right team with a good structure, he can easily back to his old form and be a world class player again.

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With all the DSG problems it's unfair to blame it on Yay's performance. He's a great talent, but look at Ardiis. Similar playstyles, but one has a crazy good core to support them. I think Yay would be plug-and-play equal to Ardiis or Cryo in their situations. Leaf, Demon1, and Tenz are much more aggressive than Yay has ever been comfortable being, they're just a whole different style.

Plus in Franchising you don't get as bombarded as NA T2. Like, the dives in Franchising compared to NA T2 is like comparing a wave to a tsunami. That's why NA T2 looks like a mess, because it IS a mess. It's really hard for passive opers like yay to do well.

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One trick

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Not enough fair data on him in the franchise era to judge if hes washed or still world class on Jett

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Disagree