Agree or disagree?
Nachtel [#2]Agree. I think people vastly overrate the distance between tier 2 and tier 1 competition in NA.
I mean Sentinels kept getting shit on by MxM in scrims lately
Fax M80 is a top 10 team in the world
DIEM [#5]Disagree until he gets picked up on a franchise team
so anyone not in franchise is automatically not world class according to u
demon1 wasn't a franchise starter for half the season, that doesn't mean he's not world class
jake and runi weren't on franchise the beginning of the year, does that mean they weren't world class?
manurmad [#8]I think he could cook on sentinel or controller role. I don’t know if he could compete with the more explosive and aggressive jetts
fr, they should put him on sentinel or something, he can still awp pretty effectively on KJ and I think if a team picks him up they'd be inclined to use chamber more after his buff and his skill with awp
manca [#11]so anyone not in franchise is automatically not world class according to u
demon1 wasn't a franchise starter for half the season, that doesn't mean he's not world class
jake and runi weren't on franchise the beginning of the year, does that mean they weren't world class?
I think Yay is still a world-class player, but in order to show off his prowess, he needs to be on the franchise team!
CowboySG2 [#6]Agree. DSG was a mess anyways, having yay or not having yay wouldn't have changed anything.
DSG was not good and they did a poor job setting him up, that's a fact. The thing is that the few opportunities that he had to impact a round, he whiffed.
NoOne_ButMe [#14]💀not top 10 bruh
Yes top 10 bro
Top 10 ranking (no order)
1.LOUD
Asuna_Yuuki [#17]Yes top 10 bro
Top 10 ranking (no order)
1.LOUD
- NRG
- C9
- EG
- FNATIC
- Liquid
- T1
- Drx
- PRX
- M80
C9 🤣
XandUnderrated [#18]C9 🤣
Tell me who is better?
You really think teams like GENG, NaVi, and fut are better than c9
You are underrating c9
They went 8-1 group stage and lost to an extremely good EG then lost in an extremely close match vs nrg that could’ve went either way
Asuna_Yuuki [#19]Tell me who is better?
You really think teams like GENG, NaVi, and fut are better than c9
You are underrating c9
They went 8-1 group stage and lost to an extremely good EG then lost in an extremely close match vs nrg that could’ve went either way
How many weed do u smoke today, burger? I dont understand how a team who cant make it into masters somehow end up as a #3 team in the world.
And also put T1 over DRX & PRX. Damn man...
Asuna_Yuuki [#19]Tell me who is better?
You really think teams like GENG, NaVi, and fut are better than c9
You are underrating c9
They went 8-1 group stage and lost to an extremely good EG then lost in an extremely close match vs nrg that could’ve went either way
C9 is good when their mental is good. As soon as they lost to EG things just went downhill. The team is too young.
So, to your question. Group stage C9 is top 10. The actual C9 is not
Prontera [#21]How many weed do u smoke today, burger? I dont understand how a team who cant make it into masters somehow end up as a #3 team in the world.
And also put T1 over DRX & PRX. Damn man...
I said it was in no order
I did it by region
Maybe read the full post before criticizing me
XandUnderrated [#22]C9 is good when their mental is good. As soon as they lost to EG things just went downhill. The team is too young.
So, to your question. Group stage C9 is top 10. The actual C9 is not
Then tell me who is top 10 over c9
Asuna_Yuuki [#17]Yes top 10 bro
Top 10 ranking (no order)
1.LOUD
- NRG
- C9
- EG
- FNATIC
- Liquid
- T1
- Drx
- PRX
- M80
nvm i hate when people do lists but put (no order) just do bullet points
Asuna_Yuuki [#23]I said it was in no order
I did it by region
Maybe read the full post before criticizing me
Even u did it by region, it still dumb list. So please stop pretending to know anything anymore.
Prontera [#27]Even u did it by region, it still dumb list. So please stop pretending to know anything anymore.
What’s wrong with doing it by region?
It’s easy to keep track of
Now tell me what is wrong with my list?
I think you’re salty that I included a lot of Americas teams in my list
With all the DSG problems it's unfair to blame it on Yay's performance. He's a great talent, but look at Ardiis. Similar playstyles, but one has a crazy good core to support them. I think Yay would be plug-and-play equal to Ardiis or Cryo in their situations. Leaf, Demon1, and Tenz are much more aggressive than Yay has ever been comfortable being, they're just a whole different style.
Plus in Franchising you don't get as bombarded as NA T2. Like, the dives in Franchising compared to NA T2 is like comparing a wave to a tsunami. That's why NA T2 looks like a mess, because it IS a mess. It's really hard for passive opers like yay to do well.
Asuna_Yuuki [#17]Yes top 10 bro
Top 10 ranking (no order)
1.LOUD
- NRG
- C9
- EG
- FNATIC
- Liquid
- T1
- Drx
- PRX
- M80
The NA bais huh
Navi?
No way you think m80 is top 10
XandUnderrated [#16]DSG was not good and they did a poor job setting him up, that's a fact. The thing is that the few opportunities that he had to impact a round, he whiffed.
I don't disagree, but not gonna clown him for having one bad event for the first time in years.
If the problem persists when he returns to Tier 1, then yeah, he probably is washed.