C9 showed us that...

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Manaphy

There is so much fucking talent in tier 2 and even tier 3 across all regions. Unfortunately, franchising has limited the number of players who are good enough or have high potential to play in franchising.

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those kids choked under pressure though... lost when it mattered + lost when they were no longer underdogs

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tbh this is the furthest jakee/runi have reached in their val careers and its only started and theyve already done great...

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i’m gonna cry. i was rooting for them. it was so close. tokyo was one OT away. i feel so bad for the newbies.

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i am not discounting their effort and I am sure jakee/runi might even win it next time they are in such a situation - but they wont be rookies anymore though.

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ok?

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They also never even qualified to a VCT challengers' event before getting picked up by C9. How do you expected them to have ice when they never even got the chance to experience high stakes with real pressure.

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i dont. thats the point im making - its hard to expect that which is why people go for experienced folk at the highest level

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EG and NRG are just better lil bro if NRG lost today, everyone would call them chokers as well

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bro acts like a good team is supposed to be unbeatable. c9 solidified themselves as one of the best teams. they just happened to lose to better teams. it's called being a professional player.

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Idk why the other comments are acting like this is a controversial take lol. Zellsis even said in his interview that they were having a harder time with the pressure. They did great, but the more seasoned teams have experience dealing with the pressure that comes with playoffs and international tournaments.

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i dont get it either its not a hot take - i am not discounting the fact that C9 is a great team, NRG handled pressure better

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C9 showed us that... being the best in group stage doesn't mean shit if you can't win playoffs

Jokes aside, props to C9 especially Jakee and Runi, they have so much potential

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Not really, showed us why tier s pros are tier S pros

Experience and brain >>> aim

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Even Loud with experience choked against FNC. Lan is different anything can happen

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MCE is just diff

He’s built The Guard and C9 from t2 players to good t1 players

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Much respect to C9. Eu can learn a thing or two... all they do is recycle washed players

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EG also showed us that you can find those superstar players in those tiers and they also showed us that strong fundamentals and good synergy can get you to the top. Insane storylines from the first ever season of vct americas.