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Shownu

Everyone talking shit about ardiis but what happened to the "best initiator itw" crashies? ardiis had to entry so he will have poor stats regardless but what about the bot crashies?

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crashies already proved himself, sit down

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Shownu

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ardiis is also a Masters winner lil bro

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loloscum

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Who?

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Biggest FNC W Statement in the main POST

NA fans really thought he was the best initiator just cuz he was on the best NA team

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dapada

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by your logic, ardiis did too wtf?

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Man people don't understand that crashies already proved himself that he is shit

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Everyone has bad games.

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I agree he played bad but I think a large majority of their downfall today came from ardiis

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FLAG!

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rare W

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TrialRunnr

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Not you defending a duelist that had 20 kills in 41 rounds

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Shownu

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How many times did ardiis play Raze when he won Masters? Just find me one game where he played Raze.

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TrialRunnr

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Why does that matter, Ardiis was bought to replace Yay, pretty sure everyone including him knows that, He was bought to be the main fragger of the team and he failed to do so today, I still believe it was just a off day for both of them and they will come good next week.

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Did yay ever play Raze? He has always been a Jett otp before Chamber came in then lost his Jett skills angle holding with Chamber. If you're replacing yay then let him play the champs he is familiar with not Raze where VICTOR IS IN THE TEAM.

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Yea but they need a fragger, Victor was great for creating space but he rarely ever fragged on duelists in recent times(on NV he was goated). You cant rely on Victor duelist in this meta cause Chamber isn't overpowered anymore and if Vic fails to frag the team will fall apart, that's why they gave that role to an experienced fragger such as ardiis

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Shownu

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ardiis is a much better player than victor so it makes sense to let Victor entry while ardiis can kill.

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Do you think they would do well with LOUD double duelist comps? I agree they need a big change

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TrialRunnr

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then what do you want ardiis to play? a controller?

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Shownu

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ardiis can frag out as he has the aim so just let him play sentinel

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TrialRunnr

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that doesn't make sense tho, a lot of the time its the sentinels' job to lurk, how is he supposed to be the main fragger if he is on the lurk? its not chamber meta anymore buddy where a sentinel could be your fragger, ardiis has to be on duelist in this meta since he is their main fragger or just get good at playing controller.

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dont you think is much worse playing with a agent you dont know? its basic, its literally his job to know how to play raze. yet, he doesnt

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Difference is Ardiis is bri’ish so everybody hates him. No he is not latvian he grew up in england

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SigmaMale

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People just hate ardiis because of the bronzil drama

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Mf antagonizes an entire region and somehow is the victim in this? Bagriis

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Gutwi

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Always the bronzils being the victims T_T

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Demaciana

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Nah hes bad on top of that. SigMAmAlE nah u a mamas boy crybaby

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i love how na puts all blame on ardiis lmao, crashies played horrible aswell and chet puts ardiis on raze

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Its very possible he was getting shit on as jett in scrims so they put him on raze and built other roles around that so he could get more impact (which he had none of by the way)

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Shownu

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Did they tell you personally he was getting shit on playing Jett?

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I have no idea if he was but given the success of jett players this meta I cant imagine the decision to not have him on jett was random
Im assuming just as much as you are assuming that he would do better if he was on jett. He looked shit all around today

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Shownu

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Bro said all around when he only played Raze which he never does lmao. Stop bullshitting without info.

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After today I honestly hope they put him on jett so he has a better chance to prove himself. Def a team diff today but Chet is a great coach and has experienced personally how good he did last season on jett so his decision must have some backing

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Its just NRG have always liked utility heavy duelists more than jett.

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Americas can only shit on the import lmao, Ardiis was doing well in FPX and even on teams like G2 he did decent. Shitting on him won't make ur team better. They were comparing Crashies with Leo and Shao before this match but I have never seen them disappear like that. Especially while playing Initiator. Bad game is a bad game for everyone, if anything its more pressure for the import.

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They were comparing Crashies with Leo and Shao before this match but I have never seen them disappear like that

Leo in elimination match btw :
https://www.vlr.gg/112328/guild-esports-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-lr1/?game=91834&tab=overview

Crashies and Ardiis both had a bad game, why don't people accept that?

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Not you defending a duelist that had 20 kills in 41 rounds . typical shimea delusion

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Shownu

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If you're gonna be toxic for bad performance I need to hear crashies more than ardiis who has an easier role to play baiting his teammates for trades.

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SigmaMale

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https://www.vlr.gg/169004/g2-esports-vs-turtle-troop-challengers-league-north-america-w4/?game=all&tab=overview
What about oxy

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G2ShahZaM

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the first map didn't count

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Crashies has a lot more impact then asdiss.

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Shownu

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I can see the 0.7 impact

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Dumb take, he is not duelist

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Shownu

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That's even more reason to criticise. Mfer is baiting his duelist and can't frag.

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Dude, Ryotz leaked infos about NRG to LEV, calm down, isn't their fault

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In my opinion, Initiator is the hardest role to succeed on. You set up your teammates. You can't lurk. You don't get a side that is based around your kit. For an Initator to do well, it has to be THEM popping off. An Initator doing good is rarer than a duelist or controller doing great.

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i disagree. crashies didnt frag, but ardiis showed he didnt master the agent he picked. he killed himself to the granades, he had no mechanics with his sachets. it hurted to watch

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He is still gonna shit on Sen and other Brazilian teams ..do not worry , the br7z1l hate he is getting is insane

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SeizVlr

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crashies has and will always be sinatraa's son

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Common NA to blame the player who is from the outside when clearly other player played bad

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jesus the amount of sheer braindeadness y'all are exhibiting rn is insane, its not his or ardiis fault that they lost the game, the team just played like shit even if crashies were to pop off or ardiis popped off y'all really think they would just somehow win a map where they lost 5-13, the teamplay from nrg was horrible today and only thing that looked good was fns midrounding in the first map

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Deadass LEV just played significantly better than NRG. crashies, who had a poor performance. They will undoubtedly get better after that game.

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u all moron, both are master winner
they just having bad game admit that.

crashies played worse than ardiis

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