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I think the roster has proven themselves enough (TenZ, pANcada and Sacy)

zekken i think had a bad series cause from what we have seen from him he still has massive potential to be great he just got unlucky sadly.

but i think after when teams are allowed to drop people i think dephh will be dropped from SEN. The reason why i think this is because SEN signed him as main IGL but we know he doesnt have a good defense and that shown during the game, and SEN signed him under the impression that he was the main IGL of XSET but then after they signed him news broke out that AYRIN also IGLed XSET and seeing that SEN locked in the roster they coudnt change it.

So when this happens and dephh gets dropped what T2 IGL will get picked up:

M80 johnqt
FAZE POISED
TSM hazed
SR dazzLe
G2 ShahZaM
TGRD valyn

Personally out of all the IGLs i think hazed would be the best fit for SEN he is a perfect balance between, fragging power and IGLing power like saadhak for example but also he has the expierence to compete in T1 play.

what do you guys think?

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POISED would be better cause he doesn’t give a fuck, frags, always knows what to do, and is all around a cool guy

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W take babysasuke

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G2 SHAHZAM yes thats all i wanted to hear LOL

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Disband and give their franchise spot to a better org

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there was no need for this

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babysasuke

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FaZe has made more of an attempt to be competitive than SEN

AND they would have won LOCK//IN

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hekzy

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I'm trying real hard to not call you out on your crying all night. Stfu and save some face for christs sake this is pathetic.

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babysasuke

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Maybe spend that energy on trying not to be such a generic SHITMEA fanboy and we’d both live happier lives

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bro was shaking trying to hold himself back but he had to let lose, he couldn't take it anymore 😈

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hekzy

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We get it, you have two accounts. Impressive. Are you gonna keep crying on both?

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hekzy

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Dude you've had 40000 comments in the past 24hours and they're all just inane crying.

Anyway
L + Ratio + Crybabysasuke

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i dont think FAZE would have won it they dont have the experience to beat top teams sadly

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The only new addition is Rossy, they have more than enough cohesion to take Fnatic with a month of reps under their belt

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kskm

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lost to G2 + win challengers first

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G2 ShahZam

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ngl Hazed sounds good to me cuz he also have pretty decent strats. also if the tsm rumors are true that he is replaced by kanpeki then yeah. but really tho they need to drop depph

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he got dropped by tsm, what makes u think SEN gonna pick him + its too early for a roster change
give them some time ..1 series and people talking abt possible roster changes

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g2 Shahzam, its a no brainer, he is their HOF player 😂

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I think it has to be valyn out of those options. He has proven to be a good IGL that has fragging power and to me he seems eager and hard working enough to push the team. But I think dephhh needs more time than just one series

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Yea dephh wasn't great in that game but to be fair they're going against the most powerful team we've seen in valorant so far.
How is he gonna outaim the likes of chronicle derke Leo and Alfa? I think it's asking a bit much for his first series with the team.
Theyll comeback better and they showed minimal strats so for ltr on in the season they'll still be hard to anti

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if hazed is also dropped from TSM for kanpeki than it would be perfect

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He will be joining mad lions ig

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valyn is clearly the best option but at the same time, hes a smokes player like pancada so it would be difficult role wise

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Shaz redemption arc

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only if SEN do decide to get rid of dephh tho

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I honestly don't know if I can trust dephh. There was the tarik ludwig tourney where he had a stinker but I was like ehh it's just a mickey mouse tourney. Now he drops another stinker shit bomb vs sen with his calling + shooting! It's only been 3 series and 1 official series so can't say for sure yet but if dephh keeps calling bad for the next split in the Americas league they should drop him asap

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when is the player drops and changes taking place

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I think after the 1st split

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They are not gonna drop Dephh, Sykko purposefully asked for him instead of Shahz, so I don't think they'll be dropping him after this performance

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but dephh cant IGL on defense basically making the team lose better off getting someone like hazed like i said

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I'm guessing their plan was for Sykko to teach him how to IGL on defense as well, but it hasn't happened til now. I just think it's very unlikely they'll make roster changes this early on, especially changing their IGL could throw off all the chemistry

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true but if performace improves quickly then we know dephh is the issue

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-tenz
-zekken
+2 young rank demon

you can blame next next IGL
2023-2025 nothing change

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Good financial move, bad move for winning games

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bro said they didnt know he wasnt main IGL as if they didnt also sign XSET's coach WTFFFFFFFFFFFF

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then why are they forcing him to main IGL if he cant

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It's the coach's choice, his goal is to improve on what he has already worked on considering he coached deph to igl on xset

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Yea they're going for the long term solution which I don't hate but it's just sad that we still need to wait even longer to see Sen succeed

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Shahzam??
His IGL'ing is stuck in 2021
2022 still having a good roster and didn't make anything significant
Valyn would be so much better

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His calling has been really good for the last two matches

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He's been calling rlly well on g2. He's a great igl and he did well in the lcq, ppl are so blinded by their hate for him istg.

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don't be so sensitive, i didn't say too much and you're saying people are blinded by hate, get out of your bubble
And another, right when the situation was critical he started to do igl well, Before lcq he spent the whole year not wanting to give up.,Apart from the fact that g2 cannot be said because they only played two matches

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SENtinels should just disband and pick up The Guard but keep TenZ instead of tex IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stDgBiAP4wM

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This actually hits …..

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i mean this is pretty good aswell but TGRD probs wouldnt drop their roster

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Did you watch the video? They made major cuts to their staff recently might be an early warning

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i think their keeping the esports divison

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TG already almost lost to Sen without prac. If you think picking them up over this roster is an upgrade then you're blatantly biased

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Bro its easy, put Sacy as igl, guy knows a lot of stuff, and pick a very good player/person. Simple. But, i kinda like depph, idk why ppl hate him so much, i guess they just need time. Cuz with pancada and sacy, the dream is alive, they fight like crazy and they will not let this shit happen over and over. So... idk, i think they should stick with the roster mid july at least.

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True all the people on the sen are individually crazy and insane. If depph can focus on his thing which he was lacking. They are on S tier

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If he isn't IGLing there's no reason for him on the team, just pick dapr back up or smth or hell have sick play sentinel (tho don't put him on controller)

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Typer

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Nah don't sick on sentinel is pure waste .he is like the 2nd entry player

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Sacy isn't an igl tho idk why people keep saying this. It's like saying put dapr on igl. Just cause they co igl doesn't mean they can do it full time.

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Hazed is the most likely as we know Valyn won't leave TG.

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true but we'll see

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braindead to cut anyone from a single elim bo3.. if fnatic win the whole thing, SEN could easily be the 2nd best team but we will never know that. Also Sykko has worked with dephh which is the reason why he is there..

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Not 2nd best but that definitely means that they went against the best team in the tourney off the get go without being able to build up chemistry with each other like NRG did

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Personally I believe the roster will still work.
I do think its more suited to a double duelist setup.
Its kinda awkward because zekken is a good entry player but is not a good jett player.

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any non tier-1 IGL is a downgrade from dephh, him and the coaching staff have proved what they can do with enough prac

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Thing is tho dephh was only IGLing every half. So it might be a weakness. We saw Sen had a pretty good attack on both maps (even tho the score doesn't say it on haven) but their defence was rlly weak. Im p sure ayrin was their defence side igl so maybe it's a weakness that dephh has that sykko didn't account for.
I think Sen played good enough to show that any other team and they would've put up an insane series but too bad it was FNC

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sykko definitely accounted for it, the first ever interview sykko did he literally said that he knew dephh wasnt that great at IGL-ing both halves but he said that he believes in himself and his coaching staff to mould him into an even better IGL

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I think people are overreacting a little bit to this fnatic game. Considering the circumstances, that metas havent really been defined on maps, no opponents vods to review, and considering sen probably had less practice time and development of chemistry due to new players, people need to chill. Fnatic are also one of the best teams on paper coming into this tournament. Remember its on thing go in blind and play a match then having substantial prep and info about the opponent then playing. Im curious in seeing how they do in VCL when there is more information for a team to use for prep and they have more time to gel their roster. Not saying they played well or acceptable, but people need to cool down before calling for people’s heads

Tl;dr chill out, give them more time, and see if its a problem in VCL

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I definitely think they at the very least played acceptable tho. They have insane firepower that they had good halves on both maps. I don't remember which of ayrin or deph igled on defence on xset but it seems like sens attack is pretty decent but their defence is rlly weak. If it was ayrin IGLing then I guess we know what the weakness is and if that really is the case and dephh doesn't do well going forward, they should definitely look at switching out their weakest link

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I agree but i feel like one match shouldnt generate a reaction like many sen fans are having. Remember, nobody’s knows fnatics map pool. So they might’ve accidentally given them their two best maps in haven and split. I feel like many people are attributing this loss to SEN playing bad (which was the case) but FNATIC played really well and there are other factors especially with this tournament style that affect then scoreline