Ludwig | VLR.gg

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I had never heard of him before but he’s a pretty douchey guy, no? What does he do to have such a following, I swear he had some of the shittiest takes and cringest moments of being disrespectful. Was one of my favorite non vct events otherwise

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He was the original subathoner, he broke ninja's sub record on twitch. I think he has a nice personality :)

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it'd been done multiple times, he was only the first semi-relevant person to attempt it

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at least he's not average jonas amirite

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Well that's not really hard. Average jonas is in the same tier as Hitler

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explain

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cant wait for them to say "idk, they are both german or something" lol

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bro thinks he's seizVlr

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Just read through that thread, easily my two least favorite people I’ve seen around valorant

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both aren't my cup of tea, lud's pretty chill tho. Cringe, but chill. His content has pivoted massively from when he was just starting out, but he's an active voice in & constantly gives back to the community that made him (melee). That alone makes him an OG.

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AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA I actually laughed at this.

If vlr.gg wants I can post sometimes asking your opinions on some players tell me if im getting a bit too hyped for one lucky thread or if you guys would be down for me or anyone to post threads and talk about valorant content creators or pro's even

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ash_knuckles

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nah sit back down my guy you're getting tooo hyped

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ight my bad gang I will sit back down

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Ehh not in my opinion. He is streamer/youtuber mixture, got to known from Smash community IIRC and grew fast because he also did good YouTube content instead of just streaming 24/7. If I'm not wrong he was starting stand-up comedian or at least wanted to be one before content creation. So I think that explains quite a lot. Just confidence mixed with content creator/entertainer brain. But I like him. He has done a lot of cool events and usually seems pretty chill. Its been a meme on Twitch that he is unfunny "pepepains guy" and I can see that his personality isn't for everyone. I don't watch him and I don't find him that entertaining alone, but based on events that he has hosted or where he has been participant he seems like pretty nice guy and enables other content creators around him. Little douchey maybe.

and I think everytime you have streamers etc who actually spend money/find sponsors to do cool events its always nice. For example has hosted some Smash tournaments and thats important because Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about esport etc.

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I respect that. Maybe I’m wrong, just the vibe I was picking up.

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I had never heard of him before but he’s a pretty douchey guy, no?

u never even heard of him

what makes your think he's a douchey guy?

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There were a few times it felt like he was being so douchey that made the rest of the couch uncomfortable. Just seemed like he felt out of place there and overcompensated by being more of an ass. Maybe I’m wrong

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Those were just banters bro relax. None of them seem uncomfortable to me. Did i miss something?

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Eyedd

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True, true.. just not for me I suppose

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I think thats just his comedy style, the douchey-ness is supposed to be ironic. You can feel however you want about him though, when it comes down to it he's just an enthusiast that wanted to put on a tournament

especially when hes the least knowledgeable person about Valorant in the room and he knows it

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an enthusiast 💀 bro this guy does not give a single fuck about valorant he's only doing it for money

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Eyedd

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My thoughts too

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Maybe brand recognition in the Valorant scene but I dont think he really makes that much money off of this? And as far as I know, he's doing pretty well financially, theres way easier cash grabs than running a Valorant tournament 💀

plus he plays the game, that makes him more of an enthusiast than 90% of the braindeads on this site

also I dont care about ludwig, if you wanna hate him thats fine. I will forget he exists until the next mogul mail video shows up in my recommendeds

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ash_knuckles

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bit too based for the chatroom mr babysasuke lets dial it back

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ash_knuckles

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if u put up bangers, no one gives a fuck what your motives are tbh. same with mr. beast. cringiest person alive with the cringiest videos on the site but apparently does so much good so who cares

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KABILA

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whenever he plays valorant his viewership goes down like half. He makes more money reacting to tiktoks lol. Making money doing valorant content is questionable for him lol.

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VinsmokeLaw

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You think they made money putting this event on? If they did it's a super small profit

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not_smart_user

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sometimes he acts like that for the entertainment of the people/content. he does gives off college bully vibes the first time you see him but he's not like that😂

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TwentySeven

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i feel sorry for you that youve never had friends in your life

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KABILA

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Just curious, what are his shittiest takes? And can you give some examples of him being douchey? From what I have seen so far he seems like a pretty normal dude as far as content creators go.

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The way he interacted with sen ceo. That moment that he was trying to convince the guard that he believed in them from the start. The smug look on his face… idk. You ever just not like someone, maybe even for no reason? I might be the only one here

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KABILA

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It's understandable how u could mistake that for being douchey. But they were just joking around. Its just normal banter. And he's clearly playing it up for the viewers with that smug face lol. Its nothing serious.

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TwentySeven

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i think ur just someone with zero social awareness who likes to hate for attention hope u can turn ur life around

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not_smart_user

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is this a bait

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I fucking hate that cringe fuck

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Eyedd

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Thank you lmao

Sounds like he’s done big things for the community tho, so I respect that. Just would never hop in his stream

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Subreezy

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it's fine if you think he's cringe and personally not a content creator for you, but don't say he's a douchey person based off of the single event you've watched him participate in. even though i'm a fan of his, it's really unfair to ANY person to judge their whole personality off of one interaction.

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future readers, if you want a good example of confirmation bias the dumbfks comments above takes the cake.

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SigmaMale

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i know he was joking but i didnt like the way he insulted some players during the game

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Ullyr

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lol these threads make me realized how braindead and antisocial vlr is.

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Ryuji

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he thinks ludwig will notice him 💀

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Ullyr

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nah you're cringe af if you can't tell banter from actual douchiness.

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Eyedd

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Imo the banter didn’t land is all

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Paper planes guy

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I think alot of his content or jokes are obvious sarcasm or friendly banter. I can see why you think he is douchey based on first impression.
I don't watch him much, but I know a few good things that he did.

There was a streamer that scammed 200k+ by making excuses to borrow money from his loyal followers. The streamer used that money to gamble and lost it all. From what I remember Ludwig ended picking up the tab and paying that community back.
The smash esport was abandoned by its publisher /Nintendo. He ended up promoting and funded a couple tournament.
From what I know of, he doesn't take stream sub/donation but it goes to his mods

Those acts alone makes me think he is better than most top streamers already.

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Eyedd

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That’s all super dope, I respect.

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Subreezy

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your first post on VLR and you chose to speak facts, that's respect

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Fantsz

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Thank you. I watch toast, which is how I found out about ludwig. Both are quite similar imo, on first impression toast can come out as an egostical, mean and rude person.

I didn't really care about the esports side of valorant till DSG. It got me more into it and that's how I ended up in vlr

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Subreezy

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well enjoy your stay, if you look past the egotistical toxic fucks on this website there's some really nice people here

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proud_bandwagoners

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People here liked ludwig but have a huge hateboner to averagejonas despite them having not much of different personality I dont get it

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Subreezy

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that averagejonas thread is fucking crazy man, people hate on him for no reason when he's just a dude playing games

i don't get the irrational hate for him either, i guess people decide in their brains that he's responsible for every comp game they've lost due to lineups and decide to project their hatred onto his personality

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lud's def done philantrophic things jonas hasn't but I get what u mean

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proud_bandwagoners

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Wdym? he has done some Valorant and OW community tournaments as well for charity. Take a quick search on google

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Psion

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yeah but ludwig has done more than just that

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It doesnt matter. You're comparing jonas that only does valorant to a youtuber with 2 mil averaging views of course he's done less but for a still growing community jonas has done a big part

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bro it's more than most have done lmao

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Subreezy

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actually braindead take, if you took a second to look at his content besides this event, you'd see all the big events he's put on, all the money and attention he puts into Melee, how he pays his mods, offers talented people full salaried jobs to do what they love, and recently helped pay back all the victims of sliker's scam (~200k). i don't like being parasocial and speaking on a streamer's character, but like Mr. Beast, he gives back to his community so it's fair to say he appears to be a good person.

people can call him cringe or whatever, but he's really fucking smart when it comes to content. any banter done at the event was done in jest, he's just playing into the fact that he knows 10x less about Valorant than any other person there. if you want a better look into his personality, check out his channel called "Mogul Mail", where he reports on news and gives his take on stuff. genuinely good takes from him and even recently he put out a video correcting all the mistakes he's made in his past reports.

he might not be funny or entertaining to everyone, but he at least shows that he's a good person through his actions. that alone is better than 98% of all streamers and content creators.

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babysasuke

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gat dam you triggered Subreezy, its over for you 🙈

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Subreezy

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nah i just find it annoying when people see obvious sarcasm and banter and think they're being serious

i see it happen so much in my life and i really don't understand how people can't pick up on sarcasm

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babysasuke

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my brother, these people have never interacted with a person that wasnt in their immediate family in real life, what did you expect 💀

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under ten layers of irony he's just an unfunny guy

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Subreezy

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it's fine if people find him unfunny, but the original poster managed to ignore every single layer of irony and call him a douche.

i just don't get how you can be that blind

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trola

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Huh? Are you sure talking about Ludwig?

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Domination

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Funny, host W events, handsome, overall a W person
You can take a L

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TwentySeven

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This dude saw that jonas saw the VLR tread hating on him and now wants to make a hate tread on ludwig tryna get attention
wannabeseizVLR
sorry your parents didn't give you the attention you wanted as a kid

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Netero

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You might have aspergers

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babysasuke

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actually a valid take 💀

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WTF WHY

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Ullyr

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you too xd

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nutab1e

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ur wrong I don't have ass burger

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👃

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He hasn't watched Bocchi the Rock!

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I have been following Ludwig since a long time ago and I can confirm, that he is just being sarcastic (I feel like it was actually so obvious that he is just messing around lmao). Watch some episodes of his podcast or just dial into his stream for a bit and you will see.

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Huge L

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He seems chill and has spent a lot of money paying back victims of scams by other influencers and sponsoring tourney's when the game companies themselves refuse to