I had never heard of him before but he’s a pretty douchey guy, no? What does he do to have such a following, I swear he had some of the shittiest takes and cringest moments of being disrespectful. Was one of my favorite non vct events otherwise
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ash_knuckles [#4]bro thinks he's seizVlr
Just read through that thread, easily my two least favorite people I’ve seen around valorant
Ehh not in my opinion. He is streamer/youtuber mixture, got to known from Smash community IIRC and grew fast because he also did good YouTube content instead of just streaming 24/7. If I'm not wrong he was starting stand-up comedian or at least wanted to be one before content creation. So I think that explains quite a lot. Just confidence mixed with content creator/entertainer brain. But I like him. He has done a lot of cool events and usually seems pretty chill. Its been a meme on Twitch that he is unfunny "pepepains guy" and I can see that his personality isn't for everyone. I don't watch him and I don't find him that entertaining alone, but based on events that he has hosted or where he has been participant he seems like pretty nice guy and enables other content creators around him. Little douchey maybe.
and I think everytime you have streamers etc who actually spend money/find sponsors to do cool events its always nice. For example has hosted some Smash tournaments and thats important because Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about esport etc.
373washoooi [#2]He was the original subathoner, he broke ninja's sub record on twitch. I think he has a nice personality :)
it'd been done multiple times, he was only the first semi-relevant person to attempt it
babynutab1e [#7]I had never heard of him before but he’s a pretty douchey guy, no?
u never even heard of him
what makes your think he's a douchey guy?
There were a few times it felt like he was being so douchey that made the rest of the couch uncomfortable. Just seemed like he felt out of place there and overcompensated by being more of an ass. Maybe I’m wrong
Eyedd [#5]Just read through that thread, easily my two least favorite people I’ve seen around valorant
both aren't my cup of tea, lud's pretty chill tho. Cringe, but chill. His content has pivoted massively from when he was just starting out, but he's an active voice in & constantly gives back to the community that made him (melee). That alone makes him an OG.
KABILA [#8]Just curious, what are his shittiest takes? And can you give some examples of him being douchey? From what I have seen so far he seems like a pretty normal dude as far as content creators go.
The way he interacted with sen ceo. That moment that he was trying to convince the guard that he believed in them from the start. The smug look on his face… idk. You ever just not like someone, maybe even for no reason? I might be the only one here
Eyedd [#11]There were a few times it felt like he was being so douchey that made the rest of the couch uncomfortable. Just seemed like he felt out of place there and overcompensated by being more of an ass. Maybe I’m wrong
Those were just banters bro relax. None of them seem uncomfortable to me. Did i miss something?
patuj [#6]Ehh not in my opinion. He is streamer/youtuber mixture, got to known from Smash community IIRC and grew fast because he also did good YouTube content instead of just streaming 24/7. If I'm not wrong he was starting stand-up comedian or at least wanted to be one before content creation. So I think that explains quite a lot. Just confidence mixed with content creator/entertainer brain. But I like him. He has done a lot of cool events and usually seems pretty chill. Its been a meme on Twitch that he is unfunny "pepepains guy" and I can see that his personality isn't for everyone. I don't watch him and I don't find him that entertaining alone, but based on events that he has hosted or where he has been participant he seems like pretty nice guy and enables other content creators around him. Little douchey maybe.
and I think everytime you have streamers etc who actually spend money/find sponsors to do cool events its always nice. For example has hosted some Smash tournaments and thats important because Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about esport etc.
I respect that. Maybe I’m wrong, just the vibe I was picking up.
KABILA [#14]Those were just banters bro relax. None of them seem uncomfortable to me. Did i miss something?
True, true.. just not for me I suppose
Delusional_SA_fan [#17]I fucking hate that cringe fuck
Thank you lmao
Sounds like he’s done big things for the community tho, so I respect that. Just would never hop in his stream
Eyedd [#11]There were a few times it felt like he was being so douchey that made the rest of the couch uncomfortable. Just seemed like he felt out of place there and overcompensated by being more of an ass. Maybe I’m wrong
I think thats just his comedy style, the douchey-ness is supposed to be ironic. You can feel however you want about him though, when it comes down to it he's just an enthusiast that wanted to put on a tournament
especially when hes the least knowledgeable person about Valorant in the room and he knows it
Eyedd [#13]The way he interacted with sen ceo. That moment that he was trying to convince the guard that he believed in them from the start. The smug look on his face… idk. You ever just not like someone, maybe even for no reason? I might be the only one here
It's understandable how u could mistake that for being douchey. But they were just joking around. Its just normal banter. And he's clearly playing it up for the viewers with that smug face lol. Its nothing serious.
Eyedd [#11]There were a few times it felt like he was being so douchey that made the rest of the couch uncomfortable. Just seemed like he felt out of place there and overcompensated by being more of an ass. Maybe I’m wrong
sometimes he acts like that for the entertainment of the people/content. he does gives off college bully vibes the first time you see him but he's not like that😂
Ullyr [#23]lol these threads make me realized how braindead and antisocial vlr is.
he thinks ludwig will notice him 💀
babysasuke [#19]I think thats just his comedy style, the douchey-ness is supposed to be ironic. You can feel however you want about him though, when it comes down to it he's just an enthusiast that wanted to put on a tournament
especially when hes the least knowledgeable person about Valorant in the room and he knows it
an enthusiast 💀 bro this guy does not give a single fuck about valorant he's only doing it for money
Ryuji [#24]he thinks ludwig will notice him 💀
nah you're cringe af if you can't tell banter from actual douchiness.
Ullyr [#26]nah you're cringe af if you can't tell banter from actual douchiness.
Imo the banter didn’t land is all
nutab1e [#25]an enthusiast 💀 bro this guy does not give a single fuck about valorant he's only doing it for money
My thoughts too
nutab1e [#25]an enthusiast 💀 bro this guy does not give a single fuck about valorant he's only doing it for money
Maybe brand recognition in the Valorant scene but I dont think he really makes that much money off of this? And as far as I know, he's doing pretty well financially, theres way easier cash grabs than running a Valorant tournament 💀
plus he plays the game, that makes him more of an enthusiast than 90% of the braindeads on this site
also I dont care about ludwig, if you wanna hate him thats fine. I will forget he exists until the next mogul mail video shows up in my recommendeds
nutab1e [#25]an enthusiast 💀 bro this guy does not give a single fuck about valorant he's only doing it for money
if u put up bangers, no one gives a fuck what your motives are tbh. same with mr. beast. cringiest person alive with the cringiest videos on the site but apparently does so much good so who cares
I think alot of his content or jokes are obvious sarcasm or friendly banter. I can see why you think he is douchey based on first impression.
I don't watch him much, but I know a few good things that he did.
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There was a streamer that scammed 200k+ by making excuses to borrow money from his loyal followers. The streamer used that money to gamble and lost it all. From what I remember Ludwig ended picking up the tab and paying that community back.
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The smash esport was abandoned by its publisher /Nintendo. He ended up promoting and funded a couple tournament.
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From what I know of, he doesn't take stream sub/donation but it goes to his mods
Those acts alone makes me think he is better than most top streamers already.
babysasuke [#29]Maybe brand recognition in the Valorant scene but I dont think he really makes that much money off of this? And as far as I know, he's doing pretty well financially, theres way easier cash grabs than running a Valorant tournament 💀
plus he plays the game, that makes him more of an enthusiast than 90% of the braindeads on this site
also I dont care about ludwig, if you wanna hate him thats fine. I will forget he exists until the next mogul mail video shows up in my recommendeds
bit too based for the chatroom mr babysasuke lets dial it back
Fantsz [#32]I think alot of his content or jokes are obvious sarcasm or friendly banter. I can see why you think he is douchey based on first impression.
I don't watch him much, but I know a few good things that he did.
There was a streamer that scammed 200k+ by making excuses to borrow money from his loyal followers. The streamer used that money to gamble and lost it all. From what I remember Ludwig ended picking up the tab and paying that community back.
The smash esport was abandoned by its publisher /Nintendo. He ended up promoting and funded a couple tournament.
From what I know of, he doesn't take stream sub/donation but it goes to his mods
Those acts alone makes me think he is better than most top streamers already.
That’s all super dope, I respect.
nutab1e [#25]an enthusiast 💀 bro this guy does not give a single fuck about valorant he's only doing it for money
whenever he plays valorant his viewership goes down like half. He makes more money reacting to tiktoks lol. Making money doing valorant content is questionable for him lol.
nutab1e [#25]an enthusiast 💀 bro this guy does not give a single fuck about valorant he's only doing it for money
You think they made money putting this event on? If they did it's a super small profit
actually braindead take, if you took a second to look at his content besides this event, you'd see all the big events he's put on, all the money and attention he puts into Melee, how he pays his mods, offers talented people full salaried jobs to do what they love, and recently helped pay back all the victims of sliker's scam (~200k). i don't like being parasocial and speaking on a streamer's character, but like Mr. Beast, he gives back to his community so it's fair to say he appears to be a good person.
people can call him cringe or whatever, but he's really fucking smart when it comes to content. any banter done at the event was done in jest, he's just playing into the fact that he knows 10x less about Valorant than any other person there. if you want a better look into his personality, check out his channel called "Mogul Mail", where he reports on news and gives his take on stuff. genuinely good takes from him and even recently he put out a video correcting all the mistakes he's made in his past reports.
he might not be funny or entertaining to everyone, but he at least shows that he's a good person through his actions. that alone is better than 98% of all streamers and content creators.
Subreezy [#38]actually braindead take, if you took a second to look at his content besides this event, you'd see all the big events he's put on, all the money and attention he puts into Melee, how he pays his mods, offers talented people full salaried jobs to do what they love, and recently helped pay back all the victims of sliker's scam (~200k). i don't like being parasocial and speaking on a streamer's character, but like Mr. Beast, he gives back to his community so it's fair to say he appears to be a good person.
people can call him cringe or whatever, but he's really fucking smart when it comes to content. any banter done at the event was done in jest, he's just playing into the fact that he knows 10x less about Valorant than any other person there. if you want a better look into his personality, check out his channel called "Mogul Mail", where he reports on news and gives his take on stuff. genuinely good takes from him and even recently he put out a video correcting all the mistakes he's made in his past reports.
he might not be funny or entertaining to everyone, but he at least shows that he's a good person through his actions. that alone is better than 98% of all streamers and content creators.
gat dam you triggered Subreezy, its over for you 🙈
Eyedd [#18]Thank you lmao
Sounds like he’s done big things for the community tho, so I respect that. Just would never hop in his stream
it's fine if you think he's cringe and personally not a content creator for you, but don't say he's a douchey person based off of the single event you've watched him participate in. even though i'm a fan of his, it's really unfair to ANY person to judge their whole personality off of one interaction.
Fantsz [#32]I think alot of his content or jokes are obvious sarcasm or friendly banter. I can see why you think he is douchey based on first impression.
I don't watch him much, but I know a few good things that he did.
There was a streamer that scammed 200k+ by making excuses to borrow money from his loyal followers. The streamer used that money to gamble and lost it all. From what I remember Ludwig ended picking up the tab and paying that community back.
The smash esport was abandoned by its publisher /Nintendo. He ended up promoting and funded a couple tournament.
From what I know of, he doesn't take stream sub/donation but it goes to his mods
Those acts alone makes me think he is better than most top streamers already.
your first post on VLR and you chose to speak facts, that's respect
babysasuke [#39]gat dam you triggered Subreezy, its over for you 🙈
nah i just find it annoying when people see obvious sarcasm and banter and think they're being serious
i see it happen so much in my life and i really don't understand how people can't pick up on sarcasm
Subreezy [#42]nah i just find it annoying when people see obvious sarcasm and banter and think they're being serious
i see it happen so much in my life and i really don't understand how people can't pick up on sarcasm
my brother, these people have never interacted with a person that wasnt in their immediate family in real life, what did you expect 💀
Eyedd [#11]There were a few times it felt like he was being so douchey that made the rest of the couch uncomfortable. Just seemed like he felt out of place there and overcompensated by being more of an ass. Maybe I’m wrong
i feel sorry for you that youve never had friends in your life
Subreezy [#42]nah i just find it annoying when people see obvious sarcasm and banter and think they're being serious
i see it happen so much in my life and i really don't understand how people can't pick up on sarcasm
under ten layers of irony he's just an unfunny guy
Eyedd [#13]The way he interacted with sen ceo. That moment that he was trying to convince the guard that he believed in them from the start. The smug look on his face… idk. You ever just not like someone, maybe even for no reason? I might be the only one here
i think ur just someone with zero social awareness who likes to hate for attention hope u can turn ur life around
nutab1e [#45]under ten layers of irony he's just an unfunny guy
it's fine if people find him unfunny, but the original poster managed to ignore every single layer of irony and call him a douche.
i just don't get how you can be that blind
ash_knuckles [#4]bro thinks he's seizVlr
AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA I actually laughed at this.
If vlr.gg wants I can post sometimes asking your opinions on some players tell me if im getting a bit too hyped for one lucky thread or if you guys would be down for me or anyone to post threads and talk about valorant content creators or pro's even
proud_bandwagoners [#36]People here liked ludwig but have a huge hateboner to averagejonas despite them having not much of different personality I dont get it
that averagejonas thread is fucking crazy man, people hate on him for no reason when he's just a dude playing games
i don't get the irrational hate for him either, i guess people decide in their brains that he's responsible for every comp game they've lost due to lineups and decide to project their hatred onto his personality
proud_bandwagoners [#36]People here liked ludwig but have a huge hateboner to averagejonas despite them having not much of different personality I dont get it
lud's def done philantrophic things jonas hasn't but I get what u mean
SeizVlr [#49]AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA I actually laughed at this.
If vlr.gg wants I can post sometimes asking your opinions on some players tell me if im getting a bit too hyped for one lucky thread or if you guys would be down for me or anyone to post threads and talk about valorant content creators or pro's even
nah sit back down my guy you're getting tooo hyped
Psion [#53]lud's def done philantrophic things jonas hasn't but I get what u mean
Wdym? he has done some Valorant and OW community tournaments as well for charity. Take a quick search on google
proud_bandwagoners [#55]Wdym? he has done some Valorant and OW community tournaments as well for charity. Take a quick search on google
yeah but ludwig has done more than just that
ash_knuckles [#54]nah sit back down my guy you're getting tooo hyped
ight my bad gang I will sit back down
Psion [#56]yeah but ludwig has done more than just that
It doesnt matter. You're comparing jonas that only does valorant to a youtuber with 2 mil averaging views of course he's done less but for a still growing community jonas has done a big part
Subreezy [#41]your first post on VLR and you chose to speak facts, that's respect
Thank you. I watch toast, which is how I found out about ludwig. Both are quite similar imo, on first impression toast can come out as an egostical, mean and rude person.
I didn't really care about the esports side of valorant till DSG. It got me more into it and that's how I ended up in vlr
nutab1e [#3]at least he's not average jonas amirite
Well that's not really hard. Average jonas is in the same tier as Hitler
Fantsz [#68]Thank you. I watch toast, which is how I found out about ludwig. Both are quite similar imo, on first impression toast can come out as an egostical, mean and rude person.
I didn't really care about the esports side of valorant till DSG. It got me more into it and that's how I ended up in vlr
well enjoy your stay, if you look past the egotistical toxic fucks on this website there's some really nice people here
Eyedd [#18]Thank you lmao
Sounds like he’s done big things for the community tho, so I respect that. Just would never hop in his stream
future readers, if you want a good example of confirmation bias the dumbfks comments above takes the cake.
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