C9 vs Fnatic vs T1

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KoreanOverlord

Looks like the strongest teams on paper rn

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Mjtchell

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T1 with 3 duelists?
You're crazy

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KoreanOverlord

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DRX had 3 duelists too (mako, rb, buzz)

Wont be a problem, especially since munchkin is a flex player

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Mjtchell

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Initially T1 will not do good. DRX is doing better because they have all been working towards the roles theyve been playing
Have most recently all been star duelists and have played otherwise

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KoreanOverlord

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Bro I dont know how closely you follow KR scene, but DRX just lost to f4q, added 2 more duelists (mako and buzz) and became first in one tournament

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Mjtchell

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I understand that, but rb was underperforming for a while as the main duelist, and once they switched buzz to the main duelist DRX stepped it up even higher.
Internationally they were struggling with all three there. Like I said DRX against INTERNATIONAL competition were looking shaky initially when all three were there. Now that theyve worked and developed more they fit in a lot better.

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KoreanOverlord

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I dont man, I feel like you saying T1 will do bad because of role conflicts is just wishful thinking

Historically teams that picked duelists and old duelists role swaps do extremely well

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unknown_trash

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their point is DRX have been together way longer than t1 has so it will take a while for them to reach DRX's level

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KoreanOverlord

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Yeah that I can agree with, but this guy just wrote 3 duelist wont work lol

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unknown_trash

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i think t1 can make it work. im more worried about the smoke player, since both lakia and xeta have played exclusively main initiator for a while and because controller is a really important role.

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thatpower

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xeta can play viper well and i'm sure that munchking can too

continue thread →

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they literally role swapped between m2 and champions..

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Matrix13e

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NAVI Clears T1 all day and all of Pacific League.

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T1 > DRX ???

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KoreanOverlord

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I thinks so

Munchkin + sayaplayer way too much talent

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Mortadelo

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Interesting take, excited

What do you think of ban and Lakia tho

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KoreanOverlord

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Ban Im not sure, in NA he was def a hidden gem that was on the come up like old yay, I think he will do fairly well

Lakia I heard george ceddes say its not confirmed, but this guy is a monster. All aim no brain sadly. But he has a talent at stuffing the stat sheet and he always gets his. So in a super team like this I think he will do well

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jimjam789

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you think? saya has been looking a bit shaky in stage 2 and lcq. hope he smashes it in the pacific

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KoreanOverlord

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Saya is inconsistent in ranked but in competition he ALWAYS shows up

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jimjam789

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hmmm stage 2 and lcq he was getting sub 220 acs which didn't impress me that much but ig in t1 they would have better set ups for him to dominate even further.

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jimjam789

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oh yeah wanted to ask this, but all damwon bias aside would you have preffered t1 texture or saya

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KoreanOverlord

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Saya

Theyre both OW players but saya is just more polished while t3xture needs more experience on a GOOD val team

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YvngKurry

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Navi and TL look good asf too. I thought vit would look good but they are starting to look avg :(((

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twisten - top 3 duelists EU
Molsi - extremely underrated flex player
bonecold - GOAT
Cender - Carried vit in tier 2

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kremo

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NAVI with cNed and FNC with Chronicle,Leo is too good

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KoreanOverlord

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Am I the only one not that hyped about navi? Fpx couldnt win a map against DRX in 2 bo3s, then they replace ardiss with cned which is an upgrade but not sure if it will instantly make them a super team like fnatic

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kremo

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FNC will be super team for sure after Chronicle and Leo transfers

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That's just ur bias imo. idk why ur using DRX to decide if they are good or not. fpx has won something at Lan while DRX have been very inconsistent

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Valgod

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They have been consistently disappointing

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exactly, not sure how you can say I'm not excited for a team just because they haven't beaten my team in TWO bo3s

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Navi and TL as well

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patuj

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T1 shouldn't be there I would rate both TL and NaVi easily over them and if you talk about regions then DRX is better than T1

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KoreanOverlord

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Hell no. DRX over TL and Navi and I think T1 is stronger on paper than DRX.

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patuj

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What?

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i dont think c9 is the best Americas team. I think that Leviatan and SEN and NRG are currently the best Americas teams. Navi and liquid look like the best Emea teams. DRX and prx are still the best APAC teams

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KoreanOverlord

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Yeah those teams are probably stronger but on paper c9 fnatic t1 look scary

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MaRvEdFanBoy1867

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t1 dont look very scary. At least not compared to APAC superteams

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jimjam789

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if a team is enough to match drxs firepower I am sure they are enough for these apac 'superteams'

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how does t1 match drx?

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jimjam789

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this was when lakia was still going to be on t1

DRX vs T1
Buzz >= saya
stax > ban
mako > xeta
zest < lakia
rb < munchkin

both are pretty much the same in terms of firepower

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ig

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jimjam789

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if T1 had -ban +bazzi I would have thoguht that they were the best team on paper in pacific

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KoreanOverlord

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Yeah bazzi needs to find a team asap

Dude is so underrated but in scrims he diffs the entire DRX roster - mako and rb

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jimjam789

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I would love for bazzi to be geng but it probably won't happen right? a team of meteor bazzi ts k1ng sylvan could also be comparable to t1 and drx but oh well

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KoreanOverlord

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I have no idea whats going on with geng

I dont think they started practicing lol

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ban is better

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annoybrocc02

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FNC hype train
ah shit here we go again

imo navi better

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ColdWKey

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tbh how can you not be hyped for Fnatic? Like the players they’re rumoured to get should surely make that team come close to winning something next year or else their coaching staff needs a re work

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annoybrocc02

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Don't get me wrong fnc looks great, however it also feels like dejavu

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ColdWKey

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it definitely does but the roster they’re going to have is such a big upgrade that if they don’t make it to at least top 3 with that roster at the kickoff tournament I'll be disappointed (most likely gonna happen somehow)

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Valgod

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T1?

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imago

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LEV clears them all mid diff