EMEA was a 1 team region all along

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Faraday

People said I was a fool but I was right FPX (except if they flop) is the only tier 1 EMEA team. literally every region has a clear 1 team that has a chance, is this because the game is new? NA is the closest to 2 teams with 100T beating fnatic but that is yet to be seen.

Are there any regions that aren't 1 team regions?
LATAM? I don't really follow but is lev much better then kru?

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So much over reaction to 1 loss.

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I mean not really, I already thought every region was a 1 team region because it's been like this for the whole year, people were just delusional saying it doesn't apply to EMEA.
FPX
PRX
DRX
ZETA
OPTIC
LEVIATHAN
EDG
LOUD

These teams have each been the undisputed best in their region for this whole year

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Kru were better than lev at the start of the year.
Zeta have been incosistent and overtaken by northeption.

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Yeah thats true for Lev and Kru, so I suppose they are only recently a 1 team region but regardless they have never both been good the same time
Zeta was not overtaken by northeption, they looked better the entire qualifier and choked the finals, thats like saying Xset have overtaken Optic because they beat Optic in the finals

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Fair enough.
Though I still think its too early to count out fnatic. They were pretty dominant in challengers 2 just didnt carry the performances to lan.

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idk abt the FPX one tho, M3C and FNC both had higher peaks than FPX and while M3C fell off right after FNC definitely were still in form for a while they just didnt get a chance to show it on the stage. I think FNC have fallen from their form in Stage 1 and 2 regionals and its so sad cause that FNC wouldve mopped up all these teams in Champs tho i dont think theyre even gonna make it out of groups if they keep playing liek they are rn.
Also i dont know about optic being the undisputed best in NA, 100T are actually for real good. I think if they faced the optic rn 100T would win simply because they dont allow you to make comebacks like they just did against loud.

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Online and lan is not the same

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Being undispusted best in the region doesn't mean it's a 1 team region

FNC, TL, M3C, G2, ACE, GLD are significantly worse than FPX, but all of them would beat the shit out of DRX, ZETA, EDG and LOUD, aka regional champions (maybe Optic too)

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Normally it's only NA that say shit like this but it seems even EMEA is NA brained

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Am I wrong? We have 5 teams each of whom would destroy the champions of other regions, except Paper Rex and Leviatan

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You are wrong, FNC, maaaaybe TL, and peak form GLD could beat zeta, the rest of the 1 teams list are better

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M3C? You're so deluded it's embarrasing

Acend, G2, OGLU would also humiliate Zeta, DRX, EDG

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M3C have done nothing the entire year, people living in 2021

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LMAO remember when Fnatic lost to 100T 2-1, and DRX beat 100T 2-0 clean sweep? Yeah that fnatic beat the shit outta m3c LMAO u gotta be living in 2021 bruh

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franchising/partnerships will make it so less regions are 1 team regions but for now every region is a 1 team region

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i do think na/emea are the closest to not being a 1 team region tho

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yeah and next tournament its gonna be different again and you will be laughed at,this game is just random,i remember some people were actually thinking emea was done because of reykjavik,and NA completely flopped at champs too but still came back

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i miss m3c so much...

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😔

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100T owns them

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The thing is their peak this year alongside FNCs peak this year hasnt been met yet by any other team.

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rare trembo W

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NA wins once and people star overreacting to them, of course fnatic is not as strong as they were while at their honeymoon, but they're still a solid team

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they didn't play well vs 100T though. their strat was a bit curious, like having derke as the point of attack on pearl instead of alfajer, defensive setup wasn't it and easily countered by 100T

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Yeah, Fnatic only played Bind good, bad day for fnatic

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EMEA is not a one team region. Recency bias soaring high

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Faraday

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What tourney was FPX not the best team in the region? Are we going back over a year to avoid recency bias?

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Fnatic was4
Where was xerxia

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FNC literally beat them EVERY MATCH in regionals and once on LAN (in a row)
3 times in regionals 1 time on LAN

Match 1: 2-1 (13-3 | 5-13 | 13-10)
Match 2: 2-1 (13-6 | 12-14 | 13-9)
Match 3: 3-0 (15-13 | 13-5 | 15-13)
Match 4: 2-0 (13-10 | 13-4)

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/854/champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers/playoffs
They come first in EMEA
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen/playoffs
They win master 2
https://www.vlr.gg/130633/fnatic-vs-100-thieves-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-opening-d
Fnatic loses to 100T

If Fnatic can beat FPX but FPX make it deeper in every tourney then what team is better?
is Optic worse then EG because EG beat optic even though they didn't make it as far as optic?

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why are you avoiding the fact that fnc won stage 2 in eu?

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Why are you avoiding the fact that they're a 2 man team and overrated onliners? Can't even perform great on LAN

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because FPX made it further in stage 2

If Fnatic can beat FPX but FPX make it deeper in every tourney then what team is better?
is Optic worse then EG because EG beat optic even though they didn't make it as far as optic?

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they literally went undisputed the whole stage 2 and beat fpx every time except the lower bracket game and they still made top 4
you cant judge a team just by losing a game , same could be said for liquid , Leviatan won 4/4 pistols and liquid still made it close

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I feel like your not reading what I'm saying. It doesn't matter that Fnatic are better then FPX in a head to head since they play tournaments.

is Optic worse then EG because EG beat optic even though they didn't make it as far as optic?

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No one said fnatic are stronger than fpx, they are just saying that fnatic is a strong team, and EMEA has not been a one team region all along.
You asked: "What tourney was FPX not the best team in the region?" and he said fnatic were better in stage 2
challengers, wich is true (Was not that long ago). Fnatic were better for a short time, but their honymoon phase was over shortly after in masters. But I agree EMEA has been looking like a one team region recently.

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Bro Online and LAN performance is not the same. Watch if EMEA challengers is in LAN event FNC will get exposed as frauds

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nahh the hateboner is crazyyyy

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I don't hate/like anyone except OCE, I'm just a OCE frog

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i guess thats fair

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People said I was a fool but I was right FPX (except if they flop) is the only tier 1 EMEA team. literally every region has a clear 1 team that has a chance, is this because the game is new? NA is the closest to 2 teams with 100T beating fnatic but that is yet to be seen.

Are there any regions that aren't 1 team regions?
LATAM? I don't really follow but is lev much better then kru?

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Emea is by far the deepest region in valorant. They could send at least 5 teams, fnatic, fpx, Liquid, guild, m3c, that could do good at champions, no other region is even close to that. Next year after roster changes emea gonna be ever stronger, no other region will have a chance.

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https://www.vlr.gg/130633/fnatic-vs-100-thieves-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-opening-d
NA LCQ team beat a EMEA 2nd seed?

Only FPX has a chance at winning champs out of EMEA.
Emea is prob the deepest region but saying 5 teams from EMEA does well at champs is delusion. 2 teams do 'well' at best, 1 of those has the ability to win champs

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Ur just a a hater im afraid

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i mean EMEA had 3 teams in top 4 last champions

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last champions

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exactly you gotta factor every tournament hence why you get 1 team regions. what are you gonna factor only teams in a single year then your stats won't stick bozo

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What does stats won't stick mean? Over the past year every region has only produced 1 team that has a chance at winning champs

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Show me a region that has been as consistent as EMEA in 2022 or 2021
See? Not a single one
Our teams always perform

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Faraday

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... buddy they don't always perform
https://www.vlr.gg/event/926/valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k/playoffs

FPX is consistent because they are the 1 team
remind me which other EMEA team was consistent this year, again?

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You perfectly know why EMEA teams didn't perform at Masters 1
Lulquid never deserved to be there
Fnatic had 2 substitutes

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crazy how EMEA always forget G2, huh?

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tbh G2 have never been a team worth watching since year 1. They're just EU TSM.

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G2 is a single team. Just cuz they played badly once doesn't mean we're shit or anything. Every other region usually has horrible reps, but people like you don't pay attention to them, people like you only care about EMEA and why we underperform. But when Japan deliver (once in their existence), you start to bandwagon and scream about how good Japan is and how bad EMEA is.

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That event the only team who has 0 excuse for playing bad is G2. Liquid got into it because FPX had players who couldn't attend. FNC had 2 subs, not having their best player there. It's why there's an Asterix at that event.

Why're you not mentioning that at every event other than Reykjavík, there's been at least 2 EMEA teams in the top 4 placements, and at least 3 in playoffs.

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when you only count 1 tourney, it makes being consistent really easy lol

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considering there's only been two events so far, we dont really have a lot to go with. If we consider the last 12 months, that's something else.
With the only two events, the top 2 EMEA teams both had players missing in one of them.

Your whole argument is recency bias bro.

Edit - you're also talking down to FNC despite them coming top4 in masters 2, but you know. They're not a competitive team, as EMEA is just a 1 team region. Only fpx have a chance at winning anything despite FNX making playoffs in every event they've attended as a full 5. It would be all minus 1 if we include Reykjavík.

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True, but delusional EMEA fans will never accept that cause they're stuck at the fever dream last year's champs lol

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doesn't change the fact that KR is 0 team region

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I know

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Acend, Gambit and FPX won tournaments how is EU one team region

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I'm talking about this year, this whole year each region had 1 team

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but that doesn't mean EU is 1 team region

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It currently is though? If Fpx was the only good team in EMEA for the next 10 years could you still not say it's a 1 team region since way in the past there were other good teams. Right now there is only 1 team in EMEA that is good enough to have a chance to win champs, what would you call that if not 1 team region

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prx lost a game , do you think they have no chance at winning now?

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They lost to another team on the 1 team region list? I don't understand why you think I would think PRX would have no chance just because they lost 1 game

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well you call a team that won stage 2 in eu and got top 4 not a contender for the title just because they lost a game?

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They are not a contender because their only non-eu win was a triple overtime against a team playing in their 1st international. The only teams they can beat are EU teams and it's impossible to play only EMEA teams through playoffs

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a team that just beat one of the favourites to win?

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?? 100T beat fnatic ??
Or you mean Lev? Who was saying they were favorites to win?

continue thread →

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asia has no team that can win champs PRX wont make it out tho

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atleast my team is at champs

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they just played 1 match... TL played against LEV who beat PRX who was a finalist in the last masters I guess ur familiar with them. And FNC played against 100T you might expect them to win against them but it happens the first match and it wasn't that bad imo.

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PRX have done better then TL and FNC the whole year, that is why it's a 1 team region not because FNC and TL lost these matches, these matches just confirm what I already knew