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thiagomds

Can they win against this new LOUD form and map pool?

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LOUD = BRONZIL = DOGSHIT REGION

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xD bruh LOUD has lost only 1 game in their career

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i mean im not tryanna disrespect loud , and they are decent team , but at the same time the competition in their region is so bad , so you cant judge them yet

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Highly disagree. They played last masters and beat almost every team. Except Optic, obviously.

So, yea... there's data to judge them already.

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they did beat optic just lost the rematch

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babysasuke

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Yeah but that was because of the cringe comp so it doesnt really count

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true true

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"beat almost every team"...

they beat exactly 3 teams at Masters. TL, G2, and OpTic. PRX literally did the same thing except for OpTic.

3/12 does not equal almost every team bruh

also just to add on, i supported LOUD thru that tourney.

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and TL and G2 were/are awful lol

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archetype

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to be fair TL wasn't supposed to be there in the first place. I don't blame TL for anything. They played exactly how you'd expect a 4th seed team to play.

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babysasuke

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I mean, yeah i guess

Im just saying you cant use beating them as an argument for Loud being good (even though I do think Loud is good)

The only top level team they played was Optic

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one lan isnt enough imo, bcz with aspas they looked way different and better than the old vikings(maybe the name is wrong), they sure have insane aimers but i cant tell how good they are in compare to other regions , as the br didint give them a competition

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braindead take
they shit on every team at masters and even beat optic but just lost rematch

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not tryna disrespect team liquid but https://www.vlr.gg/85526/loud-vs-team-liquid-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubqf

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the point your making is completely irrelevent(as i didint bring the team i support to this discussion , you got butthurt by my comment and i didnt even insult loud, i pardon your bad cognitive skills , as what i meant: a team needs to play multiple international lans to completely judge them lol

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how am i butthurt? are you upset TL didn't qualify? :(

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L region

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when does sen play

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Noyn

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EMEA saying this kkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Yugure

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TL? can't win against LOUD
G0-2? can't win against LOUD
FNC? can't win against NIP and ZETA, imagine against LOUD

LOUD owns EU teams, the only team that can probably stomp them is FPX or GUILD, even Optic won with 2 maps going OT (and LOUD being on match point several times) and the other one was a comeback.

This team litteraly exists since february and already won against tier 1 teams, reached the grand finals of an Masters while being invicted, to lost in the finals with 3 close maps, a team from tier 2 region and 4 months of age (at the time)

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kekW

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Noyn

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You forgot about first LAN of Aspas (18yo) and Less (16yo) too

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You moron fnc had 2 subs how it's that comparable

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Yugure

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and the 2 subs played better than the og team

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You wouldn't have the same energy when your favourite teams main fragger couldn't go

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babysasuke

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Lnatic sucks and gets carried by Derke to a first round bow out of playoffs

Cope harder bozo, the pride of SHITMEA gets dogged by BR

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stop underating Optic and overhyping LOUD geez. Rn, Loud is underdog team compared with Optic. Let alone Fnatic

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drapion

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optc is the favorite against loud, but fnc isnt

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LMAOOOOOOO
If someone asks you the definition of insanity show them this post

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looks like optic can so why not https://www.vlr.gg/85530/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-gf

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I think all three of those teams could beat eachother on a given day, they look significantly better than everyone else at the moment

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Shownu

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FNC would slap Loud all the way to Brazil, Alfajer by himself is better than Aspas, let alone Derke.

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siriuziun

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i need to see that, because i want to know the excuses from fnc again

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babysasuke

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Excuses from EMEA fans: the gift that keeps on giving

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R3LOAD

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Loud vs fnc would be a great match!

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unironicKEKVV

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As much as I make fun of NA..atleast both EU and NA have stacked teams meanwhile Brazil is completely dominated by Loud.

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W

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kristof

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NIP and VK would make those “stacked” NA teams look like range bots

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Lol tell me again how many matches has Fnatic lost?

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Lahm

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You get 2nd one tournament and grow deluded. I am afraid for the Brazillian players future with these expectations.

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clutchzero

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brazil has multiple international titles in basically all fps games, why would we expect valorant to be different?

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wkeyspectre

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yall have multiple titles in games but fell off recently especially in csgo

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clutchzero

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we need real titles asap in csgo, but you can't say we fell off since 5 out 30 teams on HLTV top 30 are brazilians.

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most overhyped region

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I mean LOUD may have improved but Optic and FNC have also both improved massively. Optic no longer has a permaban map so they have an incredible map pool, and FNC seem so dominant on the maps they are good at.

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Fnatic >> Optic >>>> LOUD

Being realistic and ran out of copium

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joaosgreva

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stfu, u don't even know if your sentence is true
Fnatic didn't even prove theirselves internationally with their new roster

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babysasuke

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but they have proven to be shitty internationally with their other rosters!

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joaosgreva

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nobody cares fatherless child

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nairolf1337

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get his ass

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FoechiGG

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Loud is good and all but they wouldn’t be the favourites in the first place

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Gutssz

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Optic > Loud > Fnatic imo

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babysasuke

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based and true

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♿

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I think loud will be the dark horses of upcoming masters, EU and NA fans can't really digest the fact someone from other region can also step up like last masters.

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babysasuke

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not true, always rooting for BR and APAC and they look better every event

glhf except SHITMEA

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siriuziun

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like PRX DRX TS ZETA were very fucking good

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joaosgreva

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yeah, but I think apac and drx are really underrated tho
I can see teams like prx,ts and drx upset

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R3LOAD

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APAC teams need a small mental buff and they're gonna dominate

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clutchzero

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from 2nd place last international lan, losing 3 maps really close at grand final to a dark horse kkkkkkkkkkkkkjjj.

go find a job.

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SweetyMajdoor

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I have a job, you don't have to worry.

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Lahm

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Majority support and expect great things from APAC because the fanbase is generally humble about the consistent success they've had (especially PRX, honestly the most likeable team and fanbase imo). Many Brazilian fans have grown delusional over a singular 2nd place, they need a reality check like 2021.

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thiagomds

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wtf, you didn't even watch a game of LOUD , they will destroy this EMEA ego(again) next tournament.

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NG1nS

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kfc?

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lorenzopajaroFC

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It’s an exaggeration to act like Loud is so much better like the OP did, There is no way you can affirm loud is better than optic and Fnatic, especially optic since they’re the world champions

Buuuuuut, in the replies we see once again how hurt EMEA’s pride is, y’all are high on copium saying Fnatic is the best team in the world because by no metric you can affirm this, and it is actually obnoxious how they’re using the same arguments of last time “weak region, haven’t proved themselves internationally” when in reality loud has already proven itself internationally, more so than this current Fnatic roster btw

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R3LOAD

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:skull: acend actually won the first ever champions , and all are talking about fnc who got 3-0'd by SEN in masters finals.
irony+based

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Funozito

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Vlr is either a 1 or a 10 when it comes to LOUD. Some say it's the best team in the world, other act like it's shit. The reality is that we will only know how well they will pair up to the world in this masters, but i'm optimistic with at least a top 4 spot.

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Yes, they can win. But they can also lose

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Kepin

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well LLL still look untouchable in their own region. OPTIC show some their weaknesses throughout qualifier. i think OPTIC very capable to beat LLL but next time isnt gonna be 3-0 for sure.

my hot take : we are gonna see Loud on grand final again.

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wiki

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I don't think so

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babysasuke

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Imagine this thread is still getting bumped

OPTC IGL with COVID still clears the 3rd best team itw

Cry more minor regions (including EMEA) FaZe OPTC owning internationals

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SamBR

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too much hype for a team that barely won against a 3 month old team
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