FRANCHISING UPDATE

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SeulgiVLR

via. George Geddes new franchising details have been released.

Franchise slots will have 8-10 slots per continentual league, subject to change

Assuming that it will follow a 10 team system, we could see a slot breakdown similar to this via region via guessing & market:
Americas: 5/6 NA, 3 BR, 2/1 LATAM
APAC: 5 APAC, 3 JP, 2 KR
EMEA: 7 EU+CIS, 3 TR

Thoughts and what teams do you think will make it? Here are some other updates on new teams interested in franchising since the announcement:
SK Gaming 🇯🇵
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2 big orgs to SG/MY

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valulrant finished game

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Olofboost

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-7 but you're speaking facts

While CSGO prospers with lots of tournaments, majors, top tier events, crowds, rebuilding from long online era, Valarante only buries itself more and more with lack of matches and opportunities

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we are spittin facts

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FACTOS

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NightBeam

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Bcz people here doesn't give a shit about the game or pro scene improvements. They will accept every shit riot delivers and will support until the eternity. Everything you criticize about the game, system or comparing to other game that does better in certain aspect people will downvote blindly.

That doggy behavior created this modus operandi by riot who doesn't give a shit about what we think.

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Franchising will end Valorant E-Sports

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VALoka

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2 for korea and 3 for japan yet 5 for Shit apac region

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SeulgiVLR

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apac might just be the biggest market val has outside of japan

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Mememeister1

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APAC is booming with interest from orgs (korea specifically) that want to be in franchising but in EU orgs are backing away from franchising (according to my sources)

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HaSanity

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franchising is basically european super league right? idk much about it

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archetype

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similar but not exactly.

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Mememeister1

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Franchising is where a team pays x amount of money for a permanent spot in the event. This benefits the orgs because they have the threat of open circuit where they can lose and not have events for months which makes the orgs get no return on their investment. With having a permanent spot in the league they get a return on their investment. However franchising has it's downsides because with only 6 teams the game risks becoming stagnant with the same teams playing each other. Also open circuit system is gone which means there will be no DHBK (Kooky koalas) or The Guard storylines. Another downside of franchising is that it affects the tier 2 scene greatly. Tier 2 orgs won't be able to afford the spot in the league and they will be locked out of real Tier 1 competition and I believe that in order for valorant to not become it is ESSENTIAL that the tier 2 scene is supported so that new players can enter the league. T2 overwatch is dead and riot must learn from OWL's mistakes in order for the game to succeed from franchising.

sorry for writing a thesis btw :) it's a summary of franchising

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KyLZi

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Good summery. One mention is that in this system I don't believe teams will have to pay a fee to get in. Riot will choose from a list of teams that applied to be in. I'm not sure how much that will change though.

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Mememeister1

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oops I just remembered it was pseudo franchising many thanks for the feedback :)

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Victorie

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According to his sources LMAO . This guy dreamed he was some kind of reporter and didn’t realise he woke up.

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APAC_jimmy

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Japan was literally shit for the longest time and they get one fluke run and all the weebs love them now. Bandwagoner clowns. Apac owns u

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Darkzeccos

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japan 1 fluke apac 0. + who tf uses "own" in 2022

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APAC_jimmy

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😂??? APAC has placed higher consistently at LANs than Japan, what are you even saying. Japan placed literally 1 rank higher this time and got lucky😂

as a Gambit fan you should know all about flukes🤡🤡

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zardinez

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Are you seriously calling the Gambit of last year a fluke?

Edit: I just realized it's apac_jimmy, carry on good sir

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sundaymondaytuesday

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No bias here he is right though japan is just zeta

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luckypleb

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factos

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GLN321

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6 na, the outrage will be hilarious

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Mbappe

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And deserved. Unless they also have an franchise T2 league in plans

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KyLZi

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They better

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GLN321

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yes. even then I'd say a t2 league would not be enough to warrant only 5-6 north american teams to exist in the first division. They should be looking to bring 5 na teams to champs, let alone their own region

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Mbappe

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Maybe like regional T2 leagues then, like VRL, who can promote to T1

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12 teams pls...

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16 at least

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orqn

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only 10?

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SeulgiVLR

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might be as low as 8

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Giannero

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10 teams only? Shit format

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Shownu

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There isint more than 10 teams that can be good enough to compete consistently.

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Giannero

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Lmfao there is, EMEA for example, all 12 challengers teams are good enough, Americas are fine too, APAC has plenfy of competition, you could say this only for KR or JP

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Shownu

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Only 3 teams can compete in the international tournaments. Small league is better for growth. Less variance between the strength of teams will make the regions stronger overall.

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nikoko07

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In Americas you have C9, Optic, TSM, Luminosity, XSET, SEN, 100T, NRG, TGRD, Faze, EG, Ghost, V1, Furia, NIP, LOUD, VK, KRU and Leviatan. I dont think so

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Yo this crazy

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PoohShiesty

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dead game

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Mbappe

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8-10, rip 70% of the scene

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KyLZi

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Initial reaction, I don't like it.

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Fr1tZ

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initial reaction, they killed their own e-sports.

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Skyss

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10 team each region? L riot, RiP Val competitive

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KoreanOverlord

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10 teams

LMFAO riot youve outdone yourself, bye bye valorant apex better game anyways

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Kk0bra

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then pls go pick mirage , int into estate and die , also what happened to ur Damwon fanhood??

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archetype

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takeaway is that Riot needs to pump up their Tier 2 production or get orgs like BLAST for their 3rd party tournaments if they're going with this format.

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KyLZi

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I cant help but feeling that the clout orgs like Sen, 100ts, and TSM are going to take up all the spots and teams like Xset are going to be left out. Tragedy

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Mkin11

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they are trolling

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Kk0bra

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Riot has to make sure the T2 scene stays alive otherwise ull end up in an overwatch contenders situation and they need to have more teams 10 for a league spaning 8-10 subregions is actually cap(remember eu orgs who have no chance in EMEA and ogling at APAC atm)

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Zaynio

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Wait, so it's "Americas" and not NA / SA?

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More team please

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I don't understand why Riot is mixing the Americas. LATAM, BR and NA should have their own franchising leagues, like in LoL

And 8-10 teams is too little, Valve and cs:go laughing if this really happen lmao

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Pra que?
Brasil vai pelo menos até metade do ano que vem com supremacia da LOUD. Os times BR vão só apanhar, no máximo ir prum LCQ e jogar com LATAM e scrimar com LATAM durante o ano. Botar times BR jogar contra NA vai ser ótimo pra nós e pro desenvolvimento dos times.
Uma liga brasileira não faz sentido, a não ser que seja uma liga classificatória pra liga das Américas que corra simultaneamente e dê chance pra entrar no ano seguinte

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lysenkerr

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im not watching this shit bro

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Darkzeccos

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lmfao i always felt like tournaments have very little spots and should have at least 16+ teams, and now riot does this. they should at least do sth for the rest of the scene right? maybe divisions just like in sports would be fine

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it's impossible to have that amount of teams lol. You couldn't stream every match then.

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CSGO does it.

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CSGO isn't franchised and there are many games at the same time lol

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What's bad about having 2-3 games at the same time

More games = better formats, since you can do much longer round robins / swiss stages within the same time gap, which pleases viewers as they get to see their favourite teams a lot more

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Less exposure of small orgs. Less profit.

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Olofboost

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More exposure of small orgs because they play twice or three times number of games
More profit because way bigger airtime for showing all the sponsors and the ads

You actually have no clue about it, you think "one stream good" while in fact 2-3x streams with 2-3x more played matches is so much better

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Nice exposure of small orgs with a franchise kekw

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JettEnjoyer

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Biggest L in esports history, uninstalling this game from pc, unfollowing riot channels on twitch. Cringe lords

#cancel new format

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we were going to watch the same teams mostly so it is okay for me, one thing i don't understand is how one team can grind hard and get to the league?

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idkbro

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so sad, 10 teams only is fucking sad man also fuck franchising

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APAC_jimmy

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Korea deserves way more spots than Japan

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Sprouts

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10 teams is actually brain dead, it should have been a minimum of 16 and upwards of 24 teams per region
Riot need to stop approaching an FPS like Valorant from the same perspective as LoL, we need more international events and teams

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gerritz

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lmao saw cringelord george and stopped reading

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Darkstratus

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damn bro you're so edgy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😐😐😐😐😐

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gerritz

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nah

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Ppl with shit takes LUL

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6 slots for NA Omegalul rito indie company

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Yugure

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I would like to see Americas with 20 slots

8 teams from NA
8 teams from BR
4 teams from LATAM

if they put group stage, then 4 groups with 5 teams, 1 LATAM team in each group.

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the 5 apac slots include 1 from every region in it or will it be a qualifier, it would be a good way to possibly grow OCE valorant putting them in a league vs top regions more consistently

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gweees

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No Lans with crowds and 10 team leagues Riot indie company please donate guys.

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lol

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Estiggma

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Dead game hahahaha.

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2 kr 3 jp what a joke lmao

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OzyMeister

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APAC: 5 APAC, 3 JP, 2 KR 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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3 to 1 country but only 5 to 12+ countries 🤡

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OzyMeister

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more like 20 countries

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Apac : 5
India got ur own place

You are not happy with permanent spot ? there other team who would take ur spot if u dnt want

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OzyMeister

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learn English mate

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ur english sucks

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my guy where is your logic

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OzyMeister

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Singaporean and logic?

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10 teams is a fucking meme

it's simply impossible to have representation from all the APAC regions with only 6-7 teams

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GeZAhri

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I achieved many braincells reading this thread thank you guys

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3 for TR lets go

Edit:NVM this is a guess but hope tr gets 3

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GeZAhri

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5 APAC meaning no 3 SEA,2 SA and 1 OCE?

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ofc no

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OzyMeister

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3 + 2 + 1 = 5 ?
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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GeZAhri

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Na na i mean they will scrap the existing format? mb mb

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indians are good at math 🤡🤡

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pretty sure better than Indonesians in general lmao

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There should have min. 10 teams from apac

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India

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Fuck.. L format

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EU and APAC seems reasonable , maybe 12 instead of 10 seems more fair
but for NA+SA, its just bad
prbly should just split NA and SA and have 10 teams for both regions each

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ngl, of all those "valorant finished game" sometimes just sound stupid, but in this particular case it doesn't. This really doesn't help considering that the competitive scene isn't THAT established like other games with more years...

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This is fucking dogshit. They're killing valorant. Wtfff

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3 for japan 3 for turkey? 5 for whole APAC ?
ideally 7-8 for APAC is fair (considering it contains teams from singapore ,malaysia , thailand , indonesia , vietnam , phillipines , hongkong , taiwan
, australia , india , pakistan and might be even china in future )

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only 10 teams is dogshit. we've been complaining for the longest time that there aren't enough teams in masters and now riot just decides that the regional franchised leagues that will play for an entire will have even fewer teams. wtf is this

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knowing rito: 8 NA, 1 BR, 1 LATAM