Need to be separated, cis carrying emea
Edit: SPOT SHOULD BE:
Eu:1
Cis:1
+1 spot for tr,eu, and cis
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patuj [#2]L take but nice try. Gambit only top CIS EMEA team.
You absolutely forgetting that FPX exists?
yizuz777 [#4]You absolutely forgetting that FPX exists?
FPX is literally made out of Swedish, Polish(sub), Ukrainian, Russians, and Latvian. And have Swedish coach who is super important to them. I think Shao is their best player and he is Russian, but Zyppan, Ardiis and baddyG were super important as well.
patuj [#7]FPX is literally made out of Swedish, Polish(sub), Ukrainian, Russians, and Latvian. And have Swedish coach who is super important to them. I think Shao is their best player and he is Russian, but Zyppan, Ardiis and baddyG were super important as well.
3 cis players 2 EU players 1 eu coach
BananaBread [#8]3 cis players 2 EU players 1 eu coach
3 CIS players, 3 EU players and 1 EU coach* and the roster that even made it to top 3 was 2 CIS 3 EU when Ange1 was gone.
patuj [#10]3 CIS players, 3 EU players and 1 EU coach* and the roster that even made it to top 3 was 2 CIS 3 EU when Ange1 was gone.
They dropped baddyg now but I get your point
patuj [#10]3 CIS players, 3 EU players and 1 EU coach* and the roster that even made it to top 3 was 2 CIS 3 EU when Ange1 was gone.
yea angel being gone eliminated all impact hes had on his team. when they used sub they had to redo all the strats setups comps and chemistry. ??? i understand this isnt what you were trying to say but do you understand the reason teams have leaders? you cant all be drones.
Zoners [#5]TR > useless KEKW
honestly, acend proved to us this 1st split that their win at champs was a fluke. like, should've been obvious from the beggining given that they've started the 2ng game against vivo keyd 7-0 and nearly lost
wizardbot [#12]Acend literally won champs 4 months ago ffs. So reactionary
won with riot help, not deserved
wizardbot [#12]Acend literally won champs 4 months ago ffs. So reactionary
honestly, acend proved to us this 1st split that their win at champs was a fluke. like, should've been obvious from the beggining given that they've started the 2ng game against vivo keyd 7-0 and nearly lost /rt
BielzinBalaTensa [#16]honestly, acend proved to us this 1st split that their win at champs was a fluke. like, should've been obvious from the beggining given that they've started the 2ng game against vivo keyd 7-0 and nearly lost
I thought more people would see the champs run as a fluke considering the previous events it was cned and friends, with the 4 members being inconsistent in performances, until champs.
chimpy [#18]Where they at then?
Practicing:), hilarious how people from na are so cocky rn just because an emea team lost. Your last best achievement was placing 2nd in berlin where envy got gigatomped by gambit and redgar reyna
BielzinBalaTensa [#19]honestly, acend proved to us this 1st split that their win at champs was a fluke. like, should've been obvious from the beggining given that they've started the 2ng game against vivo keyd 7-0 and nearly lost /rt
Zeek had mental health problems and he didn't even play the last matches
wizardbot [#28]Practicing:), hilarious how people from na are so cocky rn just because an emea team lost. Your last best achievement was placing 2nd in berlin where envy got gigatomped by gambit and redgar reyna
theyre not practicing theyre running trials after dropping their igl.
Chovymaker [#21]also if you give the slot to the CIS without giving the slot to TR, this may make the Turks angry and they'll probably 300k tweet in 1 hour
easy solution would be -2 EMEA slot make Cis a region +1 and give turkey a slot to +1 . EZ
miniature [#15]yea angel being gone eliminated all impact hes had on his team. when they used sub they had to redo all the strats setups comps and chemistry. ??? i understand this isnt what you were trying to say but do you understand the reason teams have leaders? you cant all be drones.
No shit. I was talking about individual players.
Ullyr [#26]Cis can actually dominate alone as a region... They have insane talents atm. Which is why Eu teams take cis players. Free cis as a region and you'll understand :)
its crazy actually navi could become stronger too, they are just gifted at fps games the cis playerbase for val is small as fuck and they still dominate
wizardbot [#28]Practicing:), hilarious how people from na are so cocky rn just because an emea team lost. Your last best achievement was placing 2nd in berlin where envy got gigatomped by gambit and redgar reyna
Yawn
patuj [#32]No shit. I was talking about individual players.
you cant divorce their individual success on the same team from the impact of everyone as a teammate on eachother.
They all need eachother, we tend to tie teams to a region based on majority nationality, the real grinded out roster of FPX is majority CIS. A sub is a sub that does not change anything. That doesnt change the nationality of the EU players either.
Raevus [#24]I thought more people would see the champs run as a fluke considering the previous events it was cned and friends, with the 4 members being inconsistent in performances, until champs.
should've been clear from the 1st breeze that we clapped tf outta them that they were'nt that good, the 2nd provided more proof with them taking 10 f'n points being 7 up on us. people called us cheater and crybabies when we were right the whole time. this year they didn't even make it to vct emea playoffs, like, guys?
miniature [#30]theyre not practicing theyre running trials after dropping their igl.
I read somewhere that they completed the trials? Mb I thought they already started practicing
mave [#33]its crazy actually navi could become stronger too, they are just gifted at fps games the cis playerbase for val is small as fuck and they still dominate
yes then look at teams like london united as well crazy cis talents there as well.
miniature [#35]you cant divorce their individual success on the same team from the impact of everyone as a teammate on eachother.
They all need eachother, we tend to tie teams to a region based on majority nationality, the real grinded out roster of FPX is majority CIS. A sub is a sub that does not change anything. That doesnt change the nationality of the EU players either.
Did I say that? Its just a fact that Ange1 wasn't in the server when FPX qualified. Unless he was spectating. I understand your point, but it has nothing to do with this.
wizardbot [#39]I read somewhere that they completed the trials? Mb I thought they already started practicing
u could be right but they didnt exactly take the L in stride after not making it to masters. Just kinda reality checking the idea that theyre back at the hard work after getting upset.
chimpy [#43]Agreed but then tr madd
TR will always be mad
they have been given a chance only to get destoryed
about time MENA get a shot
patuj [#41]Did I say that? Its just a fact that Ange1 wasn't in the server when FPX qualified. Unless he was spectating. I understand your point, but it has nothing to do with this.
If you are not making a point that they are not a CIS team then what are you trying to convey?
miniature [#47]If you are not making a point that they are not a CIS team then what are you trying to convey?
They are half CIS half EU and play for EMEA anyway even if they decided to mark themselves as "CIS" to have easier shot at Challengers spots. FPX would have never been there without Zyppan and Doombros either just like without Shao and Ange1.
patuj [#49]They are half CIS half EU and play for EMEA anyway even if they decided to mark themselves as "CIS" to have easier shot at Challengers spots. FPX would have never been there without Zyppan and Doombros either just like without Shao and Ange1.
well emea would be broken up if CIS becomes its own qualifying region, and general rule you dont count coaches as part of the teams regionality. aside from that ye.
miniature [#50]well emea would be broken up if CIS becomes its own qualifying region, and general rule you dont count coaches as part of the teams regionality. aside from that ye.
Yeah, but my point is that they aren't full CIS team when it comes to players even if they are considered "CIS".
BielzinBalaTensa [#37]should've been clear from the 1st breeze that we clapped tf outta them that they were'nt that good, the 2nd provided more proof with them taking 10 f'n points being 7 up on us. people called us cheater and crybabies when we were right the whole time. this year they didn't even make it to vct emea playoffs, like, guys?
The match against VK I think showed up unprepared they were against the team. VK outplayed them at every scenario, and Acend got lucky with the replay handicap.
Acend played insane the rest of the event, not just cNed. All 5 were playing well. Before champs, it was cNed who was consistent, zeek was somewhat consistent every few games, and the rest were there just to go along on the journey. It's why I didn't think they'd be all that special after champs. With bonecold being dropped, the team will get worse than what it is. Zeek not there, bonecold dropped. Team looks to be back to top10eu, but not top3.
Styling911 [#44]TR will always be mad
they have been given a chance only to get destoryed
about time MENA get a shot
To get destroyed harder
wizardbot [#12]Acend literally won champs 4 months ago ffs. So reactionary
1st place of Acend on champions still less means for me, because Gambit on their 2 lans won teams from every region
EMEA(before M3)
JP(CR)
KR(VS)
NA(NV)
APAC(TS,X10)
EU(G2)
LATAM(KRU)
BR(VKS)
harriman [#57]TR has one team and they are bad
same as CIS
FPX is the only good team and they are half EU
Ullyr [#40]yes then look at teams like london united as well crazy cis talents there as well.
lithuania or poland aren’t even CIS lmao
american geography
patuj [#2]L take but nice try. Gambit only top CIS EMEA team.
FPX is the only good CIS team and they are half EU.
Gambit got smoked by Acend, G2 and Fnatic
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