He was talking shit about CS the entire year because NA CS is a joke and he thought NA would win the Champions in valo and become the best region.
That was a perfect reality check for him.
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Brayl28 [#2]stop talking about this guy who literally won nothing
shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
Brayl28 [#2]stop talking about this guy who literally won nothing
Its funny because of his butthurts
RuliiKkO [#3]shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
No, he was shit. There are better NA CSplayers than shroud
RuliiKkO [#3]shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
Extremely? Dude would hit some retarded jumping shots with every gun and people were calling him like he was a god. Every player in his team was better than him tbh.
feaN [#5]No, he was shit. There are better NA CSplayers than shroud
thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
zephyr_nah [#7]thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
Respect = skill? Braindead
Shroud is actually one of the biggest sellouts in gaming, not just esports. Everything he enjoys or he sees a way to make money of is the “new big hit” and everything else is dead and irrelevant.
Funny, considering Shroud was never relevant in any competitive game yet people think he is some sort of divine FPS god…
zephyr_nah [#7]thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
Dont tell me he was better than Stewie2k, EliGe,Twistzz..
RuliiKkO [#3]shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
"Extremely talented"lul. He is pretty much in the same vain as a nex or an aizy, he did fuck all.
nairolf1337 [#9]Shroud is actually one of the biggest sellouts in gaming, not just esports. Everything he enjoys or he sees a way to make money of is the “new big hit” and everything else is dead and irrelevant.
Funny, considering Shroud was never relevant in any competitive game yet people think he is some sort of divine FPS god…
Basically farming money from 8yo~15yo's parents
zephyr_nah [#7]thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
subroza has a call out too in valorant and what did he accomplish compared to others
nairolf1337 [#9]Shroud is actually one of the biggest sellouts in gaming, not just esports. Everything he enjoys or he sees a way to make money of is the “new big hit” and everything else is dead and irrelevant.
Funny, considering Shroud was never relevant in any competitive game yet people think he is some sort of divine FPS god…
next time i bet he will talk ass to new world and saying its already "dead"
Larry [#10]Shroud has always had a scuffed mentality and a jealous factor to CS because he never won anything and when c9 dropped him, they got better instantly and went on to win the major.
Sad that the average person on twitch thinks shroud is god and people will watch a literal brick.
"jealous" ahahaah thats why he picked C9 as winners in his Champions predictions. also shroud is the one who has paved way for esports players into trransitioning as streamers,.
zephyr_nah [#7]thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
only NA players say shroud when somebody pops off lmao, shroud was just mediocre in cs, dumb player and nothing spectacular mechanically compared to european top players
Larry [#10]Shroud has always had a scuffed mentality and a jealous factor to CS because he never won anything and when c9 dropped him, they got better instantly and went on to win the major.
Sad that the average person on twitch thinks shroud is god and people will watch a literal brick.
Facts, still butthurt about getting benched and seeing C9 win the Major without him slowing them down. After all these years he still hasn’t recovered…
Na1my [#13]"Extremely talented"lul. He is pretty much in the same vain as a nex or an aizy, he did fuck all.
nex and aizy is an extremely accurate comparison, wow
zephyr_nah [#17]"jealous" ahahaah thats why he picked C9 as winners in his Champions predictions. also shroud is the one who has paved way for esports players into trransitioning as streamers,.
"a jealous factor to CS"
bruh
feaN [#12]Dont tell me he was better than Stewie2k, EliGe,Twistzz..
u guys prolly have never witnessed shroud play live , this isnt even a debate lmfao.
theres a video of him 1v1 ing S1mple .. literally owned him while reading chat
.... https://youtu.be/AhxpnCW1mp8
RuliiKkO [#3]shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
He wasn't talented at all. He played competitive CS when the scene was still kinda young and small. Most of t1-t2 players were just a streamers
zephyr_nah [#7]thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
ELiGE, Twistzz, nitr0, Tarik, Skadoodle, young Brax & Stewie were/are all better than him and it’s not even close…
zephyr_nah [#22]u guys prolly have never witnessed shroud play live , this isnt even a debate lmfao.
theres a video of him 1v1 ing S1mple .. literally owned him while reading chat
.... https://youtu.be/AhxpnCW1mp8
tell me you're a fan of tenz without telling me you're a fan of tenz
elayaCL [#25]rent free ?
idk, bro. what i know is as an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so free.
pengu31 [#26]tell me you're a fan of tenz without telling me you're a fan of tenz
lmfao how did tenz come here...u zoomer val frogs only have that choker in ur convos?
pengu31 [#15]subroza has a call out too in valorant and what did he accomplish compared to others
i was talking about CS pro play callouts .. oh wait u guys never played CS KEKW.
NightBeam [#27]idk, bro. what i know is as an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so free.
i mean it shows that there's something cultural with winning, but not in a good way. The amount of bashing NA players got from this tournament looks really weird looked from outside, and i mean bashing from their fellow countrymen! what the actual fuck? instead of supporting them...
If i was a proplayer receiving that kind of treatmet, i wouldn't give a single fuck about fans and would play only for my growth and my team.
Not saying that other countries or regions don't do that, but it's really notorious there.
zephyr_nah [#22]u guys prolly have never witnessed shroud play live , this isnt even a debate lmfao.
theres a video of him 1v1 ing S1mple .. literally owned him while reading chat
.... https://youtu.be/AhxpnCW1mp8
are u retarded or something there are dozens of better na players than shroud, tarik nitr0 stew twistzz elige hiko EVEN SEAN GARES playing at the top level of cs and not getting 1 hltv top 20 is an achievement shroud's aim isnt even crazy
zephyr_nah [#30]i was talking about CS pro play callouts .. oh wait u guys never played CS KEKW.
u didnt either or was dogshit at it theres no way u think shroud WAS good LUL
verse [#20]nex and aizy is an extremely accurate comparison, wow
An honorable mention would be kNg probably, the guy just destroyed literally every chance he has ever had. lol
zephyr_nah [#28]lmfao how did tenz come here...u zoomer val frogs only have that choker in ur convos?
its just the fact that you clearly worship streamers rather than how good they play in the server in pro matches.
SourceAvocado [#29]This Forum has a hate boner for Shroud. Ya'll really jealous Huh.
You're not that guy Pal.
I thought it was pretty clear most of the things he said was a joke but these guys on forums seem to take everything to heart. It has never been that deep
idkbro [#18]only NA players say shroud when somebody pops off lmao, shroud was just mediocre in cs, dumb player and nothing spectacular mechanically compared to european top players
he wasn't even the best in his region, forget eu
zephyr_nah [#22]u guys prolly have never witnessed shroud play live , this isnt even a debate lmfao.
theres a video of him 1v1 ing S1mple .. literally owned him while reading chat
.... https://youtu.be/AhxpnCW1mp8
Guy don't even watch the video provided by himself.
Shroud won 1 and lost 2. Btw 1v1 doesn't prove anything. Shroud won 1 tournament in his entire career and did nothing more. He always been mid to low CS pro. Accept that.
Stendo [#39]you mad because he's talking shit about cs, lol
idk, bro. what i know is as an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so free.
andrewdamf [#6]Extremely? Dude would hit some retarded jumping shots with every gun and people were calling him like he was a god. Every player in his team was better than him tbh.
yeah, you don't know what you are talking about. https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296883/cloud9-vs-fnatic-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
zephyr_nah [#22]u guys prolly have never witnessed shroud play live , this isnt even a debate lmfao.
theres a video of him 1v1 ing S1mple .. literally owned him while reading chat
.... https://youtu.be/AhxpnCW1mp8
Lmao
how can you be this dumb
by this logic xantares >>>>>>>>>>>> s1mple
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
https://youtu.be/uZn9a2u95v4
orwelles [#41]yeah, you don't know what you are talking about. https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296883/cloud9-vs-fnatic-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
Cuz 1 game he had better kd = best player. Keep coping
andrewdamf [#43]Cuz 1 game he had better kd = best player. Keep coping
didn't say he was the best player lol. he was extremely talented at csgo, as evident by top fragging in a grand final against one of the best teams ever, but he didn't put in the work.
NightBeam [#40]idk, bro. what i know is as an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so free.
OMG !!!! so hilarious !!!!
Sleep [#36]I thought it was pretty clear most of the things he said was a joke but these guys on forums seem to take everything to heart. It has never been that deep
Yup cant joke about stuff or you can but fans that hang in forums dont get that everythings not 100% serious. Shroud likes trolling and its working with threads like this
orwelles [#46]didn't say he was the best player lol. he was extremely talented at csgo, as evident by top fragging in a grand final against one of the best teams ever, but he didn't put in the work.
If you are extremely talented you should top frag every game, like s1mple, Niko, yay. 1 game doenst mean shit.
dolphincandy [#52]Shroud so rent free
I have seen so many ppl who cant live without showing taking about how bad shroud is
Whent that giy is still in top1percent better than all of u in these forums
8yo~15yo shroud fan spotted
I remember during first champs shroud said eu gonna be amazed how insane NA valorant is. after that gambit won second champs and now 4/4 emea qualified. cherry on top: during kru vs sen he started making monkeys sounds to make fun of LA-S players because he couldn't accept that his region best team was losing against kru lol xD.
Na1my [#13]"Extremely talented"lul. He is pretty much in the same vain as a nex or an aizy, he did fuck all.
That was an incredible comparison. Kudos.
andrewdamf [#53]If you are extremely talented you should top frag every game, like s1mple, Niko, yay. 1 game doenst mean shit.
lmao, child. you just have zero clue. you started watching this year clearly. what about s1mple bottom/near bottom fragging in two major finals? you can be extremely talented, and just get outstratted and outsmarted because other players simply put more work into reading the game.
orwelles [#59]lmao, child. you just have zero clue. you started watching this year clearly. what about s1mple bottom/near bottom fragging in two major finals? you can be extremely talented, and just get outstratted and outsmarted because other players simply put more work into reading the game.
The fact is, shroud was shit and overrated, clearly not extremely talented. Now s1mple? Easily was always at ATLEAST top 50 in the world. Constantly dropping 20-25+ kills and always being 1-2 top frag. Insane igl, insane aimer, insane movement, insane awper and much more. Logically s1mple is human and sometimes (barely 3% of his matches lmfao) hes gonna bottom frag. What did shroud do? Ah i remember. Getting awp jumping clips for YouTube. Doing silly flicks so others shit players call him god of fps. Hes basically a tenz but 1000x worse. Show me these matches where he bottom fragged because Ive only found 3 matches where he actually bottom fragged in a major and even that, he won anyways. (Prob would find some more but im in my Phone and It takes ages so no) so your point makes 0 sense.
Also Ive been playing since 2016 you clown.
Edit: if shroud is so good why isnt there Million of clip channels sending clips of him? Threads talking about How good he is? twitter? Why isnt any pro players talking about How good he is? Literally till this day the only clip of him in valorant was some dogshit 1tap, in other games some flicks or boring 3-5k. In cs? Jumping shots lmfao. Always talks shit and 0 sense takes. Always think na is gonna win. The only thing good about this dude is his irl personality. Anything else based on games? Trash. Also he plays that game "New world" which is already dying. Lmfao. Of course youre gonna keep coping and saying How good he is since apparently youre the average shroud viewer. 1. Boomer 2. Trash takes 3 thinks shroud is god himself.
Good night.
andrewdamf [#60]The fact is, shroud was shit and overrated, clearly not extremely talented. Now s1mple? Easily was always at ATLEAST top 50 in the world. Constantly dropping 20-25+ kills and always being 1-2 top frag. Insane igl, insane aimer, insane movement, insane awper and much more. Logically s1mple is human and sometimes (barely 3% of his matches lmfao) hes gonna bottom frag. What did shroud do? Ah i remember. Getting awp jumping clips for YouTube. Doing silly flicks so others shit players call him god of fps. Hes basically a tenz but 1000x worse. Show me these matches where he bottom fragged because Ive only found 3 matches where he actually bottom fragged in a major and even that, he won anyways. (Prob would find some more but im in my Phone and It takes ages so no) so your point makes 0 sense.
Also Ive been playing since 2016 you clown.Edit: if shroud is so good why isnt there Million of clip channels sending clips of him? Threads talking about How good he is? twitter? Why isnt any pro players talking about How good he is? Literally till this day the only clip of him in valorant was some dogshit 1tap, in other games some flicks or boring 3-5k. In cs? Jumping shots lmfao. Always talks shit and 0 sense takes. Always think na is gonna win. The only thing good about this dude is his irl personality. Anything else based on games? Trash. Also he plays that game "New world" which is already dying. Lmfao. Of course youre gonna keep coping and saying How good he is since apparently youre the average shroud viewer. 1. Boomer 2. Trash takes 3 thinks shroud is god himself.
Good night.
Shroud was a good player around 2014-15, maybe even in 2016, showed brief signs of being a great player. Could not stay on top because 1. players kept getting better as years went on. 2. he did not put in the time necessary to stay on top. Those are the facts. shroud was at his best in 2015 from an international competition perspective. If you only watched from 2016 onwards, you can't possibly know.
People actually acting like shroud was a sanji level player, which is just false. s1mple bottom fragged/2nd bottom fragged in ESL cologne 2016 major final, and the Faceit 2018 major final.
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2292372/cloud9-vs-nip-esl-one-cologne-2014
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296863/cloud9-vs-envy-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
also, I am not a shroud viewer. I hate shroud because he shit talks CS, but you cannot deny the facts.
Na1my [#34]An honorable mention would be kNg probably, the guy just destroyed literally every chance he has ever had. lol
Kng was always dogshit and all talk so i dont see How he had a chance at all.
Brayl28 [#16]next time i bet he will talk ass to new world and saying its already "dead"
new world is pretty dead though..
orwelles [#61]Shroud was a good player around 2014-15, maybe even in 2016, showed brief signs of being a great player. Could not stay on top because 1. players kept getting better as years went on. 2. he did not put in the time necessary to stay on top. Those are the facts. shroud was at his best in 2015 from an international competition perspective. If you only watched from 2016 onwards, you can't possibly know.
People actually acting like shroud was a sanji level player, which is just false. s1mple bottom fragged/2nd bottom fragged in ESL cologne 2016 major final, and the Faceit 2018 major final.
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2292372/cloud9-vs-nip-esl-one-cologne-2014
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296863/cloud9-vs-envy-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
also, I am not a shroud viewer. I hate shroud because he shit talks CS, but you cannot deny the facts.
You literally destroyed your entire argument in seconds even before i read the entire text. How did shroud go from extremely talented to good player? Useless conversation. You gotta know the difference between extremely talented players that usually are the best players in the certain game to a "good player" that was just top fragging cuz the players were New and needed time. Ur sounding like these sentinels fanboys using iceland as proof to show how they were in the past lul.
n1zo [#57]I remember during first champs shroud said eu gonna be amazed how insane NA valorant is. after that gambit won second champs and now 4/4 emea qualified. cherry on top: during kru vs sen he started making monkeys sounds to make fun of LA-S players because he couldn't accept that his region best team was losing against kru lol xD.
Same for the x10 game he hates SEA teams the most for some reason
andrewdamf [#64]You literally destroyed your entire argument in seconds even before i read the entire text. How did shroud go from extremely talented to good player? Useless conversation. You gotta know the difference between extremely talented players that usually are the best players in the certain game to a "good player" that was just top fragging cuz the players were New and needed time. Ur sounding like these sentinels fanboys using iceland as proof to show how they were in the past lul.
?????? He was extremely talented, which lead to him being a good player, could have been a great player if he worked on his game. Cloud9 had a team in the summer of 2015 that went to the grand final of 3 big LAN tournaments in a row, beating some of the best teams in the world. That team was powered by the fragging of skadoodle and shroud as their two best players. Like I said, you only watched from 2016, you don't know.
also more matches of shroud competing against the best:
nairolf1337 [#9]Shroud is actually one of the biggest sellouts in gaming, not just esports. Everything he enjoys or he sees a way to make money of is the “new big hit” and everything else is dead and irrelevant.
Funny, considering Shroud was never relevant in any competitive game yet people think he is some sort of divine FPS god…
Advertising something he enjoys is not a sell out btw
NightBeam [#55]8yo~15yo shroud fan spotted
im studying inverse trigonometry for my exams rn
something a 15y wouldnt even fathom to know lmfao
kylocat [#56]All i know about shroud is he hate cs ever since c9 literally went from bottom tier 1 team to winning the next fucking major by doing -shroud +tarik
lmao
https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/8349/shroud
he's okay guys. but really, bunch of FAN boys up in here, not that that's bad but, just sayin, wowza. he's just okay guys
oh and just for context
https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/career/8349/shroud
he's great online, not as good at LAN, and bad at Majors, so ya.... there is that
RuliiKkO [#3]shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
actually delusional
Jing [#49]Yup cant joke about stuff or you can but fans that hang in forums dont get that everythings not 100% serious. Shroud likes trolling and its working with threads like this
True, people talking about him is a win win for him since he's a content creator. CPM is CPM doesn't matter if they're haters or fans
RuliiKkO [#3]shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
He was not good at all
zephyr_nah [#7]thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
Who has ever said hes NAs best fps player ROFL are you dumb? Never was the best in NA CS never will be the best at any fps
zephyr_nah [#22]u guys prolly have never witnessed shroud play live , this isnt even a debate lmfao.
theres a video of him 1v1 ing S1mple .. literally owned him while reading chat
.... https://youtu.be/AhxpnCW1mp8
ROFL imagine thinking 1v1 aim duels (where he still gets shit on btw except for pistols) makes him good, just ignoring the fact he was never good in any officials
zephyr_nah [#17]"jealous" ahahaah thats why he picked C9 as winners in his Champions predictions. also shroud is the one who has paved way for esports players into trransitioning as streamers,.
paved the way hahahaha ok bro this is massive copium
AkamiRosario [#68]im studying inverse trigonometry for my exams rn
something a 15y wouldnt even fathom to know lmfao
You literally learn that at age 16
puxk [#72]Weirdos talking shit about a streamer who doesn't even play valorant. Shroud has more money than everyone here talking shit, combined. Losers always trying to hate on someone. Get a life
NA always with the money on the bank argument xD
justron40 [#11]bruh this dude know nothing man, stop talking about him and giving him stage.
Man has 16k people watching his empty chair for 2 hours, but yea a thread on vlr matters
cyke [#79]NA always with the money on the bank argument xD
More like why are you hating on a successful person for something they do that made them successful? Shroud's entire brand is himself and his personality. Not many people can say that they are millionaires because people enjoy watching their stream.
puxk [#81]More like why are you hating on a successful person for something they do that made them successful? Shroud's entire brand is himself and his personality. Not many people can say that they are millionaires because people enjoy watching their stream.
lol im not hating anyone
zephyr_nah [#22]u guys prolly have never witnessed shroud play live , this isnt even a debate lmfao.
theres a video of him 1v1 ing S1mple .. literally owned him while reading chat
.... https://youtu.be/AhxpnCW1mp8
Shroud on LAN? I aren't think that
Azaqa [#76]ROFL imagine thinking 1v1 aim duels (where he still gets shit on btw except for pistols) makes him good, just ignoring the fact he was never good in any officials
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296883/cloud9-vs-fnatic-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2292372/cloud9-vs-nip-esl-one-cologne-2014
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296863/cloud9-vs-envy-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
orwelles [#84]https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296883/cloud9-vs-fnatic-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2292372/cloud9-vs-nip-esl-one-cologne-2014
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2296863/cloud9-vs-envy-esl-esea-pro-league-season-1-finals
? the last one is literally a 0.9 rating why are u linking that LMAO? Also just look at his stats he literally averages 0.95 rating in important matches https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/8349/shroud?matchType=Lan&rankingFilter=Top20 he was in star player roles and got lower stats than most support players
puxk [#72]Weirdos talking shit about a streamer who doesn't even play valorant. Shroud has more money than everyone here talking shit, combined. Losers always trying to hate on someone. Get a life
shroud has small money though bro, he's 100% richer than me right now, but im 100% richer than him in 10 yrs
Azaqa [#85]? the last one is literally a 0.9 rating why are u linking that LMAO? Also just look at his stats he literally averages 0.95 rating in important matches https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/8349/shroud?matchType=Lan&rankingFilter=Top20 he was in star player roles and got lower stats than most support players
because they got destroyed on 2nd map, because c9 was trash on mirage, but he was the best on the first. but yeah, he was an idiot who didn't care about pro play and the region was in a shit state at the time. but he was a talented player, who on his day could compete with anyone, as shown in the matches I linked. everyone here acting like he's a shit player with little to no talent at all.
AkamiRosario [#68]im studying inverse trigonometry for my exams rn
something a 15y wouldnt even fathom to know lmfao
i've studied it in school lol
zephyr_nah [#30]i was talking about CS pro play callouts .. oh wait u guys never played CS KEKW.
you were never good at cs, nor followed cs if you claim that shroud was a top tier player in NA.
it's obvious that you are some 17 year old who played cs for two years and think you are superior to all these other
"newfags" who didn't play cs.
4k hours since 2014 You dont know what you are talking about.
AkamiRosario [#88]??????? no calculus in na is taught in college wtf
no bro, its not... maybe for the retards
brado [#86]shroud has small money though bro, he's 100% richer than me right now, but im 100% richer than him in 10 yrs
Copium
orwelles [#87]because they got destroyed on 2nd map, because c9 was trash on mirage, but he was the best on the first. but yeah, he was an idiot who didn't care about pro play and the region was in a shit state at the time. but he was a talented player, who on his day could compete with anyone, as shown in the matches I linked. everyone here acting like he's a shit player with little to no talent at all.
bro... you link him performing well in like 3 matches and he doesn't even play well across all the maps in those matches... even those "good" performances are nothing compared to players like elige, twistzz, prime stew, prime hiko (or even washed hiko probably), and tons more. People were saying he's the best NA FPS player of all time but its just not true he was never even the best NA CS player of his time, he was just an average player who never performed when it mattered most and fell off hard after a couple years in the scene.
Brayl28 [#2]stop talking about this guy who literally won nothing
Ty for this reminder, firm handshakes!
M4G4L [#95]Shroud losing in CS: Dead game! - Shroud 2020: Best game I ever seen in a long time! - One year from now: NA is losing it all, Valorant is a dead game!
+1 btw his fans are really mad here bragging over his money and shit. So pathetic bringing material shit to an ability and values discussion.
NightBeam [#96]+1 btw his fans are really mad here bragging over his money and shit. So pathetic bringing material shit to an ability and values discussion.
NA, what can I say? Every tournament is an new excuse: Jetlag, meta, trash talk, skin bets, adderall, etc. And they think what happened to BR this tournament is fair. RIOT for sure fucked us up! Nice to see them out of this champions so soon!
i_come_from_hltv [#97]Shroud is shit he is always an onliner who can't perform in land when it matters and he is a snake for saying cs is bad when his cs career literally build all of his streaming career
I think TenZ is a little bit like that! When the pressure comes...he will perform like he did in CS:GO! He won the first masters because it's a new game! When people start to realize a step ahead meta...he will be punish everytime! Then, he will start doing only streams like Shroudead!
hiimnsk [#67]Advertising something he enjoys is not a sell out btw
Remember when he co-streamed the Stockholm Major? After trashtalking CS for like 4 years straight, ever since he stopped playing the game bc C9 kicked him? He knew the event would be massive, the biggest CS Major in history and wanted that sweet cash by doing absolutely nothing aka co-streaming.
Shroud jumps on every hype train there is as long as it is beneficial for him. During the Valorant beta he voiced concerns about the integrity of the game, even said that he doubts that Valorant is esports ready. 2 weeks later, after the game fully released (in virtually the identical state that the beta was in) & tournaments were announced he called it the future of esports and couldn't stop telling everyone how great of a game it is bc he realized the money there is to be made by co-streaming the game.
Shroud is a sellout who is only thinking about his personal gain and doesn't care about anything else.
kylocat [#56]All i know about shroud is he hate cs ever since c9 literally went from bottom tier 1 team to winning the next fucking major by doing -shroud +tarik
Fr, Shroud still malding that he was the reason C9 was never a contender for a major victory. -shroud +tarik was the best roster move in NA history
n1zo [#57]I remember during first champs shroud said eu gonna be amazed how insane NA valorant is. after that gambit won second champs and now 4/4 emea qualified. cherry on top: during kru vs sen he started making monkeys sounds to make fun of LA-S players because he couldn't accept that his region best team was losing against kru lol xD.
Shroud is such a joke. Easily the most overrated CS/FPS player in history. Never won anything, shit mentality and attitude + selling out every time he believes a game will bring him financial success. Baffled how people still listen to him, let alone watch his streams. Sure he is decent by average player standards, but at the same time he is insanely boring. I would rather watch my toe-nails grow than watching a shroud stream LUL
puxk [#81]More like why are you hating on a successful person for something they do that made them successful? Shroud's entire brand is himself and his personality. Not many people can say that they are millionaires because people enjoy watching their stream.
NA players talking about money and success all the time. The american brain-washing works wonderfully....
nairolf1337 [#100]Remember when he co-streamed the Stockholm Major? After trashtalking CS for like 4 years straight, ever since he stopped playing the game bc C9 kicked him? He knew the event would be massive, the biggest CS Major in history and wanted that sweet cash by doing absolutely nothing aka co-streaming.
Shroud jumps on every hype train there is as long as it is beneficial for him. During the Valorant beta he voiced concerns about the integrity of the game, even said that he doubts that Valorant is esports ready. 2 weeks later, after the game fully released (in virtually the identical state that the beta was in) & tournaments were announced he called it the future of esports and couldn't stop telling everyone how great of a game it is bc he realized the money there is to be made by co-streaming the game.
Shroud is a sellout who is only thinking about his personal gain and doesn't care about anything else.
youre delusional. Im not even going to try and argue as you made points where every other person thought the same way on the matter.
RuliiKkO [#3]shroud was extremely talented in cs, but he never had the champion mentality needed like s1mple or anyone else on top.
fnx also never had it and won a lot of trophies on both CS 1.6 and GO
no_noise_979 [#105]shroud stopped doing watchparty after 2021 cuz he knows emea gonna keep winning every Champions
if BR or SEA win champs, shroud sell all his property and go to live in forest?
zephyr_nah [#7]thats why every top CS pro respect him as NA's best fps player right??? Actual pros know better , they not only make callouts off his name but whenever a guy pops off you will hear teammates calling him Shroud...
baby zoomers who never witnessed him play live downfragging me lmfao.
Bro, shroud was mediocre at pro play in CS. He was known for getting highlight clips in pubs, and reaching the top of Reddit. People put him on this huge pedestal when he wasn't anything special. Dude had like 1 or 2 good clips in pro play, and only ever winning a DH.
His stats were average, his achievements weren't anything special. He wasn't anything special. In a public lobby he's fantastic, and can reach the top of any fps game he can play, when playing in pubs. However in pro play, he was never anything fantastic.
you also talk about baby zoomers, but forget that shroud was only ever known for one overpass clip, cache clip, and being a likable guy. Mechanically he wasn't anything special, outside of pubs.
You honestly just sound like a guy who looked a few cs youtube videos from 2015, and use that as your fact.
nairolf1337 [#100]Remember when he co-streamed the Stockholm Major? After trashtalking CS for like 4 years straight, ever since he stopped playing the game bc C9 kicked him? He knew the event would be massive, the biggest CS Major in history and wanted that sweet cash by doing absolutely nothing aka co-streaming.
Shroud jumps on every hype train there is as long as it is beneficial for him. During the Valorant beta he voiced concerns about the integrity of the game, even said that he doubts that Valorant is esports ready. 2 weeks later, after the game fully released (in virtually the identical state that the beta was in) & tournaments were announced he called it the future of esports and couldn't stop telling everyone how great of a game it is bc he realized the money there is to be made by co-streaming the game.
Shroud is a sellout who is only thinking about his personal gain and doesn't care about anything else.
tbh if he cared as much about personal gain as you think he does, he'd only stream valorant, PUBG, and CS. you reckon if he cares fully about profit, he'd not stream pubg to 50k viewers again?
The guy shit talks CS, yet has said it's one of his all time favourite games. It's the same shit with me and siege. I shit talk siege more than any game, but I still have over 6k hours in the game. It's by far one of my favourite games out there. Doesn't mean I have to worship what the game has become.
Him with val I will agree. he jumped back on his original comments about the game. Seems to do watch parties when it can profit him. that I will agree with you on.
SiYK [#111]Shroud is like so biased towards NA, it's hell, I don't know why people even consider him relevant like this guy was literally never good in competitive fps
na player biased towards na.
who wouldve guessed
SiYK [#111]Shroud is like so biased towards NA, it's hell, I don't know why people even consider him relevant like this guy was literally never good in competitive fps
Might not be the best but still better than you even in your dreams
Zorontom [#113]Might not be the best but still better than you even in your dreams
Might not be the best but still better than you even in your dreams
M4G4L [#95]Shroud losing in CS: Dead game! - Shroud 2020: Best game I ever seen in a long time! - One year from now: NA is losing it all, Valorant is a dead game!
NA on last masters,no?
Raevus [#110]tbh if he cared as much about personal gain as you think he does, he'd only stream valorant, PUBG, and CS. you reckon if he cares fully about profit, he'd not stream pubg to 50k viewers again?
The guy shit talks CS, yet has said it's one of his all time favourite games. It's the same shit with me and siege. I shit talk siege more than any game, but I still have over 6k hours in the game. It's by far one of my favourite games out there. Doesn't mean I have to worship what the game has become.
Him with val I will agree. he jumped back on his original comments about the game. Seems to do watch parties when it can profit him. that I will agree with you on.
- he streams VAL to just as many people
- talking about CS as a franchise, not CS:GO
- no one expects him to worship CS, there is a difference between voicing concerns and shittalking the game in ways that are objectively not true
nairolf1337 [#117]
- he streams VAL to just as many people
- talking about CS as a franchise, not CS:GO
- no one expects him to worship CS, there is a difference between voicing concerns and shittalking the game in ways that are objectively not true
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He doesn't hit the same numbers as he did on pubg, not even half. His val streams tend to peak around 23k viewers, not including watch parties.
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Cs as a franchise, I haven't seen shroud talk about that much, I wont lie. I've msotly seen him trash talk CS:GO. so I dont really have a response I can push forward for the CS as a franchise bit. I might be confused and misread the previous responses.
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Voicing concern about CS does fuck all. Valve dont listen to anyone. Nearly every pro complained constantly about the krieg meta for years, and it took them years to change it. If you go on his stream and ask if he thinks CS is the best fps game he's played, he'll probably say it's his favourite and also trash talk about flaws.
Applying this to me personal experience again, I used to "voice concern" about siege when I was first playing it. I started shit talking the game after the third year of the same issues. Even now I shit talk siege as it has the same issues it had back when I voiced my concern in my first thousand hours of playing. -
I do agree that people shouldn't treat shroud as some fps god. People hype the guy up to such a high level, when he's just an exp pro who was decent at pro level, but looks godly as general playerbase level, which most pros do. He's average in the top 0.1%, however that's still the top 0.1%. Dude looks insane when playing against the other 99.9%, which is why people rate him so high.
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