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#1
koromast

is g2 the only ascension team to remain on franchising so far? cuz i think boom is also confirmed to be out next year and idk about nsrf chances, i know xlg will most likely stay tho

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localkoolkid
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Well I do not know if both EMEA teams are getting relegated (they should) because you would need two ascension winners

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Anguibok
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At least half of Ascention team will defend their spot in Ascention

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Hades_Loves_Rb
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G2-alr qualified
2G-can still qualify for ascension or champs (unlikely)
APK-arent relegated yet but will be soon
M8-arent relegated yet but will be soon
DRG-qualed for ascension and can still qualify for champs (and need to place above xlg if they qual too) to guarantee it
XLG-qualed for ascension, can still qual for champs (and need to place above DRG if they qual too) to guarantee it
BOOM-relegated
NS-qualified for ascension, need to qualify for champs to guarantee it

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Boom can still finish before NS, at least one of Chinese team will qual without go to asc (It would need a planet alignement to not happen) and the 2nd one will go to Asc, I agree on the other

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Laundry
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can u clarify how boom can still make it?

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Anguibok
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ZETA, GE and TS will end with less point that Boom (TS has still a chance, but nah, they wont go top 4 in the region), they just need either NS or DFM to end behind then and meet the "Top 8 in point" criteria

Option 1 :

  • Boom win next game NS loose next

Option 2 :

  • DFM not making top 4
#8
Hades_Loves_Rb
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no they wont. Nogshime Redforce WILL qualify to champs and WILL win it and Rb WILL win MVP.

It is known

#11
Anguibok
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In that case they just need DFM and TS to not make top 4

#18
SleepingSnorlax
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No If DFM gets above them then it straight up relegated

#19
GastV
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DFM won't get any point if they finish 5-8th, so they need to finish at least top 4 for boom to be relegated

#20
SleepingSnorlax
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They are already top 8 by qualifying for playoffs

#21
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https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2025/Championship_Points/Pacific

boom beat zeta = 6, dfm then need to beat T1, then i believe get two more points in playoffs idk how that works but they prob wont

#23
GastV
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they need to get top 4 because winning in playoffs won't give them any point

#25
fr0ster0p
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if DFM beat T1 and TLN beat PRX then DFM can be number 1 in their group

#22
GastV
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it's stage 2 rank of DFM. If we're talking about Boom's chance of relegation, check the overall Pacific Points rank through the whole season

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Anguibok
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No, if NS loose and they win, they end before them

#37
TYG759
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NS have secured ascension already. The worst they can finish in their group is 4th.

#38
Anguibok
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Liquipedia disagree with youI think they are a risk of triangular ith RRQ and TS if TS win (I would be glad if both BME and NS manage to go to asc)

#40
TYG759
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They are like that because they don't know whether RRQ or TS will make it. NS win and they're through to playoffs anyways. Here are the scenarios if NS lose.
-TS beats RRQ 2-0: Head to head all three are 1-1. Next tiebreaker is head to head map differential which are NS +1, TS 0, RRQ -1.
-TS beats RRQ 2-1: Head to head map differential will be NS +1, RRQ 0 and TS -1.
These are obviously with GE losing but let's say GE win and NS lose their final game whilst TS beats RRQ:
-4 way tiebreaker with all 4 teams on a 2-3 record. Liquipedia says that the 4 way tiebreaker will try to split them into two groups of two. Well, head to head score of these 4 teams are NS and TS on a 2-1 record and RRQ and GE on a 1-2 record. This means NS and TS make it to playoffs, with NS being in 3rd for the tiebreaker between these two teams since NS beat TS. TS vs RRQ map score doesn't matter as long as TS win.

Simply put, even if they lose, if TS win, they are guaranteed top 3 whilst if RRQ win, they would be 4th as they beat GE in head to head should GE win their last game. Beating both GE and TS 2-0 and losing to RRQ 2-1 really helped with their map differential a lot since they won the maximum number of maps they could with a 2-1 record.

#41
Anguibok
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If NS is assured to be top 4 then RRQ would have been yellow, but they could have made a mistake, I admit.

#42
TYG759
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I already mentioned but if TS beat RRQ 2-0, then RRQ can't make playoffs. That's why they don't have a colour yet. NS just don't have a scenario where they can drop below 4th. I'm guessing nobody really edited that yet. Only the three Korean teams in that group have confirmed playoffs with GE the team to have confirmed failure to reach playoffs. RRQ and TS will have their fates on the line. RRQ just need to win a map to go playoffs though

#43
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S just don't have a scenario where they can drop below 4th.
Thats why i'm saying "If NS is assured to be top 4 then RRQ would have been yellow, but maybe they did a mistake"

#45
TYG759
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Okay, let me run you through the colours on liquipedia. Blue=bye in playoffs. Green=normal starting position in playoffs. Yellow=lower bracket start in playoffs. Grey=unknown whether they will make playoffs or not. Red=cannot make playoffs. They will be given a colour based on their lowest possible finishing position except in the case of grey and red. RRQ's lowest possible finishing position is 5th. They cannot be given a yellow, a place in the playoffs, when they cannot be guaranteed to make playoffs. Just because they are above them right now and NS guaranteed to make playoffs, doesn't mean that they will also make it. I already mentioned multiple times but lost 2-0 to TS and they will drop to 5th. That alone means that they CANNOT be given a yellow in liquipedia. After all, being given a yellow right now means they will finish 4th at worst and that is not the case. So no, not giving RRQ a yellow is not a mistake.

#46
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"Just because they are above them right now and NS guaranteed to make playoffs, doesn't mean that they will also make it."

I already saw a team in Yellow and the team under them being green, look at APAC
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2025/Pacific_League/Stage_2
It's not a problem to have a team in a better color and being classed under

#6
koromast
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damn so emea has chances of 2 new teams next season?

#12
FNSaimcoach9
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yea maybe cuz both the current teams are bums

#13
koromast
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idk i feel like m8 has done good rosters that for some reason dont work out could be something internal on the org maybe

#30
Liem
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minny igl is ass

#44
CinnamonStew34s
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t2 emea team got more champ winners than wgole countries

#26
fr0ster0p
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yaa and they dont even have point for Top 8 to go to ascension

#28
koromast
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damn, which are the best t2 teams on emea rn? cuz i dont feel there are any better teams than apeks and m8 anyway

#29
fr0ster0p
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if you want to win you can just sign m8 players and coach for ascension games

#47
mustafais
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BCF and Enterprise are probably better than apeks and could perform better than m8

#9
darkenvader7
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boom is not yet relegated, they are still top 8 in champs points

#14
MrBlooBloom
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M8 can make playoffs and would be the favorites for Ascension if they do

#17
gamergirl
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theres people yapping in m8 twitter about m8 being picked to represent one of the ascending teams if the org doesn't meet requirements for riot

#31
MrBlooBloom
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You mean like if PCF can't pay the minimum league salary then m8s could get their spot? But then would they have to pick up the roster as well or would they be free of doing whatever?

#32
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all im saying is there is a small group of people who think comeback was only allowed for this reason, that way comeback will play ascension with them and if they ascend it could be minny swapping in, besides for that no changes are allowed as they have to keep 3

#15
Huyab
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edited

#16
Huyab
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BOOM are not relegated, they qualified to Ascension by champ point

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1makzey/good_news_for_boom_fans/

#27
fr0ster0p
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yaa if DFM and NS stay at same point then sure but if DFM get like top 4 then Boom are out from top8 champs point

#24
fr0ster0p
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boom and NS are in ascension based on point i think they are in top 8 in points so they can go to ascention to fight their slot only if DFM and NS dont get points now

#34
SnorlaxEnjoyer
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Americas

  1. G2 Esports
  2. Envy/E-Xolos Lazer

APAC

  1. Nongshim Redforce (I hope)
  2. Motiv Esports (DON'T CHOKE I BEG)

EMEA

  1. Gentle M8s
  2. PCFIC Esports (hopefully don't know if they will remain under PCIFIC)
#36
koromast
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honestly bbl pcific making it to the league would be perfect

#35
voidmeow
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have only been watching NA ascension this year

g2 obviously
winthrop/yfp/envy

#39
TM06Nick
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how does a college team make T1

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