Paper Rex vs. Team Exploit | The Esports Club Showdown | Main Event | Valorant match

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
PRX	2	2 (2)	0 (0)	1 (1)	10 (10)
TE	0	3 (0)	3 (0)	2 (0)	5 (0)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
PRX	2	2 (2)	0 (0)	2 (2)	11 (9)
TE	0	4 (0)	2 (0)	4 (1)	5 (1)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
PRX	4	4 (4)	0 (0)	3 (3)	21 (19)
TE	0	7 (0)	5 (0)	6 (1)	10 (1)

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pprx fucking pussy cant play on mumbai server where both teams would have got nearly equal ping no sportsmanship forcing opposite team to play on 100+ ping against 9 ping and being proud to be one of best in sea

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jajajajajajajaja

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cry is free

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Not indian fans pretending they wouldn't get smoked by PRX regardless of the ping.

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yes pprx lost both there matches in hk server in apac lcq pprx ping abuser from cs days cant win a single event on lan .no sg server no fun remember pprx vs dwg and dwg lost to ge xd

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lmao they destroyed the "Indian Pride" Global Esports 13-0, 13-3 on the same ping. Fair to say they would have destroyed Exploit regardless of ping

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lmao ge was like 60 -80 ping with looses pprx on was on 9 ping in lcq get you info right son

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lmao ge ping was around 40, davai posted an ig story that day

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that was for first 2 rounds then there was internet outrage due to thunderstrom after that they had high ping and losses . ge has vlog on it you can see that what happened in after round 2

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yeah and is it pprx to be blame in that situation?

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for now they are but for ge match no but its true that pprx player are ping abuser from cs days

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wdym "they are", so you still gonna blaming pprx after all the statement that the organizer have state and their failures to read the vct competition ruling properly before the tourney. and what's with the ping abuser bullshit, when all the root of ping abuse problem is because of the tourney organizer who failed to pick the best server for both team.

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this man keep downvoting me and couldn't even reply to me, LMAO

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Are you high? GE had around 40 ping for LCQ

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sore loser get over it

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should one match on sg server than one match on mumbai server

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go cry we do not care

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who cares about a team claiming to best sea that lost all there matches in master and could qualify in lcq because there lost both there games on hk server. abusing ping against a weaker region team

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nah bro, u didnt know how strong nth at that moment. lets say that prx stomped exploit, and nth stomp prx. just accept the fact.

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PRX 13-0 GE

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Aren't you guys the one who spam "ping doesn't matter" when your team plays in 10-12 ping and the opponent above 80 in VCC?

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is there equidistant server in sa i would love to have match on that

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Loser indian

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the servers are not decided by the teams, its the organizers. Granted there is a huge ping difference, ping wont even matter looking at the way TE are playing.

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pprx were crying they wont play on any other server except sg at this point i think sa teams should just quit this tourney

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how do u know that the server was decided by teams and not predecided by the organiser?

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TEC mods

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can u link the source?

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I don't have a screenshot. Saw it in the stream chat

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stream chat? LULBA

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Huh?

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Stop lying dude

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Why would I lie?

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Implied that it was one of the interests offered so the SG teams would participate, but I don't know (personally) the full extent of the truth or whether or not it's actually true.

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Since this is an international event, we are abiding by the VCT ruleset which leads us to - SA vs SA - Mumbai, SA vs SEA - Singapore, SEA vs SEA - Singapore

The Esport Club

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lmfao u have source them saying that?

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yes sir tec mods have told this when ppl were calling them out for this.

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some saying its the TO some saying its prx im confused?

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you can believe whatever you want but do you really think a TO especially a big TO like TEC would do such crap things own their own when they know they will get a lot of hate for this.

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got this from mods in youtube

Since this is an international event, we are abiding by the VCT ruleset which leads us to - SA vs SA - Mumbai, SA vs SEA - Singapore, SEA vs SEA - Singapore

its not tec or prx or team exploit that decide, its in the rules by riot.

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drunk people "TE will beat PRX"

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sgp server ke sher.. hkg server ate hi dher(dwg vs prx)

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its fine, at this point ping doesnt make a difference

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Quick match Quick money love it !

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BING CHILLING 🥶🥶

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ping diff still

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even though im supporting prx they're abusing the ping diff to the absolute max lol

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abusing? how? care to explain??

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they're making jingg abuse the ping by pushing every round because they know that TE cant win the aim duel by a 100 ping diff

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Or just them wanting to win the game? What u want them to do?Stay in the spawn?
Blame the organizers not them lol

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i never blamed either sides but there was minimum utility usage from prx side, dry peeking mid on ascent 90% of the time and knowing they'll win the aim duel is absolutely abusing ping to the max lol

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even prx doing the dry peeking with forsaken in the berlin. that aggresive play is why prx well known for now. but yea, ping matters.

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But yeah you're right, the ping diff is bad and it sucks for TE

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Since this is an international event, we are abiding by the VCT ruleset which leads us to - SA vs SA - Mumbai, SA vs SEA - Singapore, SEA vs SEA - Singapore

keyword "VCT ruleset"

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But pak is more close to MENA so they should actually make an exception in this ruleset for future VCT events.

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yeah they should be. but for now just want to clarify that people says prx abusing ping. maybe the reason riot put sg server for sea vs sa because sg server more stable consider sg server used by a lot of country. i more worried about packet loss tho, if team exploit got bad packet loss then the rule are absolute shit

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keyword using rules to your advantage

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following rules are not using it to ur advantage. using loophole on rules are the meaning of "advantage" on rules. if the rules says 2 parties got to agree on server and prx absolutely refuse playing on mumbai server, then its using rules to ur advantage.

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then why would they play on singapore when the other team is at complete disadvantage.then they say we are not competing in the other hand they just abuse the rules and destroy the competiton

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did u even read my comment bruh

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Another 13 0 bois

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PAIN even though the match was pretty unfair

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i cant see this, i need bleach for my eyes

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13-0-------13-013-0----------------------------------13-013-013-0
13-0-----13-0------13-0---------------------------- 13-0---------13-0
13-0------------------13-0----------------------------13-0------------13-0
13-0-----------13-0-13-0------13-013-0------13-0-------------13-0
13-0-------------------13-0------13-013-0------13-0-------------13-0
13-0-------------------13-0---------------------------13-0-----------13-0
13-0-----13-0-------13-0----------------------------13-0---------13-0
13-0---------13-013-0--------------------------------13-013-013-0

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'Pussy Rekt’ is an Esports team from Singapore server who recruit star players from other countries and loves 13-0ing teams who are on disadvantage but copy strats from Vision Strikers and get rekt by Supermassive Bots on lan.

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u need help

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Katharize

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nah im just trying to talk shit

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God damn that Jinggg ace was nasty. Yes it’s a ping differential but at face value, that ace was crazy.

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You got to feel for TE here.... surely there may be skill and strat gap but TE is not this bad....TE is playing on 100 ping vs 20 ping....are you kidding me ? Atleast make SEA teams play on Mumbai server for Pakistan and Bangladesh teams...who are you even kidding. It's clearly unfair...wtf....PRX are one tapping them ....what fuckery is this...

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tbh, 100 ping is unplayable.

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Team Exploit(ed)

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Kinda sad that they had to play with high ping

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yeah, im rooting for prx, but its kinda sad to see TE playing on 100 ping

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Even if the ping was reversed, TE would not have even got more than 5 rounds (Map1)

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Then why were prx scared to play on mumbai?

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sgp server ke sher.. hkg server ate hi dher(dwg vs prx)

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PING Really Affect to Match

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yeah but they got outstrat too tbh. after half match all team exploit member seems like lost and tilted. a lot of them also got pick one by one. jing ace already proved how unprepared the other team, even when jing shoot they still confused where jing location are.

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this is the point that people should know. thats purely outstrat, the way prx setting up the crossfire, the trades, the utilities usage against them. even the ping is matter, people shouldve know this first.

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Ping on Mumbai -
PRX 60-70
TE 50-60
Doono whats the problem, atleast in this match PRX boys must show some mercy.

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Since this is an international event, we are abiding by the VCT ruleset which leads us to - SA vs SA - Mumbai, SA vs SEA - Singapore, SEA vs SEA - Singapore

ayoo, still feel bad for TE

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I know sir but as u said feels bad that is what im sayin, they could have agreed to play on mumbai server bcz even they know that this is not fair.

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bruh im prx fan but this match its so so so so UNFAIR. I Feel bad for pakistani team, hope the organizer change the server in map 2

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For that PRX has to agree which they are not going to.

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Source?

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I definitely understand the anger from both fanbases and both the TEC and PRX are at fault, I just want yall to take a look at the official ruleset from the APAC LCQ which TEC mods claimed they are adhering to. It's not fully PRX's fault, nor is it TEC's, but the latter is suspicious.

7.6.2. Server Selection.

Prior to each Match, the Tournament Official will select the server which is as close to
equidistant from the teams as possible.

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So Ruling will take place against TO

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This rules were for APAC LCQ only FYI
This tournament is organized by The Esports Club

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Which like I said earlier, the TEC mods claim they are adhering to. In the Server Selection Article, it is not explicitly claimed which servers are mentioned (unless they just followed what was chosen during the LCQ,) only that the TO is responsible on finding the most equal-distanced server for both teams.

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I respect every team but these rules and all are not fair thats what I am saying.

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It's always going to be murky waters with an all-online format, and the rules were there to hopefully mitigate this. Whether or not it's fair is for each of us to think, tbh. But personally, I do believe TEC is taking the fault. Whether or not PRX was complicit or not is another story, both are at fault one way or another.

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Why do people complain about ping more today than yesterday? Because 13-0? Because someone spread news like "prx doesnt wanna play mumbai" without source?

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because a team has single digit ping and other has triple digit.

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Yeah its really unfair, but in lvr and bleed i dont see people complain this much or maybe i just missed it

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because both bleed and lvr are singaporean team, and both got 5-25 ping
no one complained

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I mean when bleed vs SA and lvr vs SA my bad

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Bleed and lvr are againts indian team, this match is prx vs te and te is from pakistan.
Indian in sg server = 50-60 ping
Pakistan in sg server = 90-100 ping

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It's not about the match bro, It's about the Indians are still salty their best team was getting stomped by PRX 26-3, look at the ratio on Indians & Pakistani complaining on VLR + Twitter and they only complaining on PRX not on LVR & Bleed KEKW

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'Pussy Rekt’ is an Esports team from Singapore server who recruit star players from other countries and loves 13-0ing teams who are on disadvantage but copy strats from Vision Strikers and get rekt by Supermassive Bots on lan.

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they got obviously outstrat, i know ping matters but, they even had bad trades. just accept the fact.

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You missed it

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They having PTSD from PRX vs GE

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The mods already said they were just abiding with VCT ruleset which requires SA-SEA matches to be played on SG servers. Although it is still unfortunate that they had to play on 100 ping.

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And they too got the middle server (Mumbai where both teams will get fair ping) Sadge

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feels bad for TE no one should play with that condition

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damn the paper rex hate never stops huh

it's the TOs fault, not PRX's. The TOs chose the server, PRX didn't.

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Its the TO fault but Prx player and management could have showed the sportsmanship and gave both team the same fighting ground

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not a 13-0, nice

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imagine 5 ping vs 120 ping lmao

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'Pussy Rekt’ is an Esports team from Singapore server who recruit star players from other countries and loves 13-0ing teams who are on disadvantage but copy strats from Vision Strikers and get rekt by Supermassive Bots on lan.

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its the TO fault

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'Pussy Rekt’ is an Esports team from Singapore server who recruit star players from other countries and loves 13-0ing teams who are on disadvantage but copy strats from Vision Strikers and get rekt by Supermassive Bots on lan.

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Thats a copy pasta but quite new

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'Pussy Rekt’ is an Esports team from Singapore server who recruit star players from other countries and loves 13-0ing teams who are on disadvantage but copy strats from Vision Strikers and get rekt by Supermassive Bots on lan.

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but its like TE are not trying to play like they have a ping disadvantage. Maybe 5 stack a site or something? theres a much higher chance of winning rounds. Barely see trades coming out. they need to maybe play in stacks or something to increase chances of winning as they know that they cant win 1 to 1 aim duels. change up the strats.

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Did you even see how PRX are playing? I have never seen someone exploit their ping advantage like that. Didn't use a single piece of utility on T-side and just went for aim duels.

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if they gave chance then SA people are gonna be like: TE still got _ rounds even though they had huge ping disadvantage, prx so trash. players are just doing what they can, unlucky that there is such ping differences. hope that SA teams can come on LAN next time to see the real difference in skill. GGWP to all nonetheless.

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There is a LAN happening in Dubai for SA where SEA teams will also also be invited which is possibly next month

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that sounds great. hope it happens. will be a good experience for all teams.

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lol so tru

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That was an absolute schlacking.

Ping issues or not, TE didn’t even come close to PRX.

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btw how do you guys know which server they are playing on?

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Uda dikasi tau sama moderator lewat chat

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TO mods in chat

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All this to get rolled by super massive bots on LAN ?

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Wait.. what happen with malaysian god? why d4v4i always botfrag? d4v4i wake up!

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No no i was correcting her statement at point 2. She said that Singapore teams only agree to play if its Singapore server. We were never asked for a choice .. It wasn't like something they asked. It was just given as a statement.

Yes i agree but telling the world that Singaporeans only accept tournaments if its on SG server.. where did that come from mate

^^ LVR Redkoh on twitter.

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Fun Fact : Paper Rex actually said yes to playing on fair ping. Idk why yall are trying to drop their reputation so badly.

Anything to prove this claim ? Just asking
Danial Hakim Koh
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Ask the Tournament Organiser or ask PRX themselves.

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Tweet Link: https://twitter.com/RedKohVAL/status/1461269569171963906?s=20

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tweet deleted, what was it??
edit: i get it

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He said ask PRX: https://twitter.com/RedKohVAL/status/1461269788575993867

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Why are people acting this match was expected to be competitive? Ping or not, PRX are a different tier to South Asian teams. It's not that deep.

They put up solid performance Vs VS and SMB on LAN, they're hardly going to struggle with these guys. Face le facts.

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13-0 is a massive disrespect and demotivation for any team regardless of any tier. Its a statement that could effect any org easily. 20ms - 120ms ping diff is no where to be ignored.

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True, but people really need to get over 13-0s in Valorant.

The game is massively momentum based, more so than CSGO, especially as it's MR12.

Teams of a higher caliber than these 2 are getting 13-0d guys, it's not allllll that insane.

G2 vs Gambit
Gambit vs Acend
Rise vs C9.

This. Shit. Happens.

The players that will do well and win shit move on from these results.

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fyi , paper X lost to damwon , where as GE won against damwon

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Does it mean GE better than PRX? nah i don't think so. PRX lose because they are likely to scrim with korean teams a lot. So it's no surprise if they lose because korean teams can read PRX better than GE.

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Paper rex vs GE 13-0

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Yeah bro, it doesn't mean much at all. That's how Valorant works. It's full of triangle matchups. Every singgle tournament without fail. So you can't take much away from individual results.

A > B
C < B
C > A

Happens all the time.

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What a joke of a match, nice going organizers.

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People need to stop shitting on teams and organizers for ping. The fact that South Asian teams even get to play vs these amazing teams from SEA is a big win for the region as whole. Win or lose all the teams are bound to get great practice from this event, so open your eyes and look at the larger picture.

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