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#1
ButterflyEffect23

Which teams are not gonna survive the partnership re-evaluation, in your opinion?

Are PRX safe?

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femboyenjoyer
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prx def safe have you seen the prx twitter comm riot are NOT trying to deal with that

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team secret

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Frogger0_0
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although prx have a lot of money i personally think prx is shady but i might be wrong
teams like secret and zeta are not surviving it
either koi or giantx is getting cut
c9/eg/100t/nrg
tyloo
jdg

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ButterflyEffect23
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catNmouse [#3]

team secret

yeah, Secret is getting cut imo

who else tho?

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merciless-pity8989-89
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Frogger0_0 [#4]

although prx have a lot of money i personally think prx is shady but i might be wrong
teams like secret and zeta are not surviving it
either koi or giantx is getting cut
c9/eg/100t/nrg
tyloo
jdg

zeta is def surviving, pacific would need atleast 1 japanese representatives in the league, zeta over dfm is the easy choice

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vlkwgn
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either secret or nobody everyone else is fine

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gl0b0l, havent even made a single playoff lmfao
secret, nepo org dont deserve a spot
dfm, they have been better but still that performance in 2024 warrants one

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I think I would like to get boom instead of RRQ for Indo I really like them

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PP12123213123
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ts(not even pinoy team)
ge(minor region)
dfm(smaller team/fanbase than zeta)
drx(one of korean could be cut, drx is smallest among korean team)
rrq(underperform)

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ButterflyEffect23
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PP12123213123 [#10]

ts(not even pinoy team)
ge(minor region)
dfm(smaller team/fanbase than zeta)
drx(one of korean could be cut, drx is smallest among korean team)
rrq(underperform)

I don't see a world where DRX would get cut bro what

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Frogger0_0
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merciless-pity8989-89 [#6]

zeta is def surviving, pacific would need atleast 1 japanese representatives in the league, zeta over dfm is the easy choice

dfm over zeta is the easy choice

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zephyrara
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Frogger0_0 [#4]

although prx have a lot of money i personally think prx is shady but i might be wrong
teams like secret and zeta are not surviving it
either koi or giantx is getting cut
c9/eg/100t/nrg
tyloo
jdg

prx probs has the least money out of the whole pacific

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Notbaka
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SleepingSnorlax [#9]

I think I would like to get boom instead of RRQ for Indo I really like them

Isn’t rrq more popular

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PP12123213123
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ButterflyEffect23 [#11]

I don't see a world where DRX would get cut bro what

higher chance than geng or t1

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SleepingSnorlax
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Notbaka [#14]

Isn’t rrq more popular

It is but I think Boom tries their best to support the scene even though RRQ is one of the Rich ones is Sea

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yayvsboaster
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PP12123213123 [#15]

higher chance than geng or t1

XD

#18
Denjisideals
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PP12123213123 [#10]

ts(not even pinoy team)
ge(minor region)
dfm(smaller team/fanbase than zeta)
drx(one of korean could be cut, drx is smallest among korean team)
rrq(underperform)

Tbf I think even if it's not GE, there will be atleast one South Asian org. With OG leaving valorant, I don't know who will be a better option than GE. That being said, if they don't make playoffs next two years in row, they are getting cut.

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garamanmararaman
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ButterflyEffect23 [#11]

I don't see a world where DRX would get cut bro what

if they need to remove one kr team it would be awkward to kick a team with a masters title on them

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vlkwgn
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vlkwgn [#7]

either secret or nobody everyone else is fine

some of you guys act like riot is going to axe every team that isn't top tier

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SleepingSnorlax
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ButterflyEffect23 [#11]

I don't see a world where DRX would get cut bro what

In terms of profitability they will keep Geng and T1 more compared to drx

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PP12123213123
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Denjisideals [#18]

Tbf I think even if it's not GE, there will be atleast one South Asian org. With OG leaving valorant, I don't know who will be a better option than GE. That being said, if they don't make playoffs next two years in row, they are getting cut.

so which region do you think will get cut? 1 korean 1 japanese + (TH/MYSG/ID/PH/SA)

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Frogger0_0
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zephyrara [#13]

prx probs has the least money out of the whole pacific

the owner is a billionaire
but i am very doubtful of how he made it

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Denjisideals
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PP12123213123 [#22]

so which region do you think will get cut? 1 korean 1 japanese + (TH/MYSG/ID/PH/SA)

I honestly don't know man. I don't think any of the Korean teams deserve to get cut tbf. If it's 8 team partnership probably 3 KR + 1 JP + 3 SEA + 1 SA or 2 KR + 1 JP + 4 SEA + 1 SA

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jazzb
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one of the korean team should go right?

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H3ENnZ
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catNmouse [#3]

team secret

dont think so, only PH representation (org)

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gordonramsay
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jazzb [#25]

one of the korean team should go right?

Why? Korea should at least keep 3

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SleepingSnorlax
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PP12123213123 [#22]

so which region do you think will get cut? 1 korean 1 japanese + (TH/MYSG/ID/PH/SA)

Prx getting dropped have more chances since they are a small org who only runs based on fandom even if they are maintaining top of the table

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ButterflyEffect23
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jazzb [#25]

one of the korean team should go right?

well, T1 are safe

If one of them has to go it's between DRX/GEN.G
DRX has the history, was in the scene since the start, etc
GEN.G are a bigger org and they have a recent masters title

idk. maybe they can keep all three?

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Denjisideals
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SleepingSnorlax [#28]

Prx getting dropped have more chances since they are a small org who only runs based on fandom even if they are maintaining top of the table

Pretty sure they are not dropping PRX
They bring in the big number
You will need that in the long term
Infact, as much as I dislike PRX, them being shit is actually bad for Pacific

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SleepingSnorlax
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ButterflyEffect23 [#29]

well, T1 are safe

If one of them has to go it's between DRX/GEN.G
DRX has the history, was in the scene since the start, etc
GEN.G are a bigger org and they have a recent masters title

idk. maybe they can keep all three?

Yeah the decision will be tough one for KR scene you don’t wanna drop those 3

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PP12123213123
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SleepingSnorlax [#28]

Prx getting dropped have more chances since they are a small org who only runs based on fandom even if they are maintaining top of the table

singapore will probably be the next country in sea or asia to host master. they can't be cut prx before master singapore

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yayvsboaster
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Denjisideals [#18]

Tbf I think even if it's not GE, there will be atleast one South Asian org. With OG leaving valorant, I don't know who will be a better option than GE. That being said, if they don't make playoffs next two years in row, they are getting cut.

VLT is another option from SA
when franchising was introduced GE and VLT were 2 orgs from wh 1 hv to be selected so riot choose GE , if GE cutoff from franchising probably VLT will come

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yayvsboaster
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ButterflyEffect23 [#29]

well, T1 are safe

If one of them has to go it's between DRX/GEN.G
DRX has the history, was in the scene since the start, etc
GEN.G are a bigger org and they have a recent masters title

idk. maybe they can keep all three?

ig they will keep all korean teams and probably all of the teams will be renewed and if any team gets kicked then probably a team from that region will take their place

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SleepingSnorlax
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yayvsboaster [#33]

VLT is another option from SA
when franchising was introduced GE and VLT were 2 orgs from wh 1 hv to be selected so riot choose GE , if GE cutoff from franchising probably VLT will come

I would say Chances of Global staying is High since they have previous worked in Korea as well and they are well settled

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yayvsboaster
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SleepingSnorlax [#35]

I would say Chances of Global staying is High since they have previous worked in Korea as well and they are well settled

yea probably

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Doinurmum
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cned_best_player [#8]

gl0b0l, havent even made a single playoff lmfao
secret, nepo org dont deserve a spot
dfm, they have been better but still that performance in 2024 warrants one

i don't think its about performance more about finances and other PR stuff

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ButterflyEffect23
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Frogger0_0 [#12]

dfm over zeta is the easy choice

nah Zeta definitely will stay over DFM

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Anzaldinho
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kick dfm and let mongolz in

#40
hehe444
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may be prx because co-owner crying about they aren't have any money in everywhere

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hehe444
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Frogger0_0 [#23]

the owner is a billionaire
but i am very doubtful of how he made it

0/8

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catNmouse
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Frogger0_0 [#23]

the owner is a billionaire
but i am very doubtful of how he made it

they’re not bleed

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nobody___100
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Frogger0_0 [#4]

although prx have a lot of money i personally think prx is shady but i might be wrong
teams like secret and zeta are not surviving it
either koi or giantx is getting cut
c9/eg/100t/nrg
tyloo
jdg

eg 100t nrg are all fine
eg have a clear vision for future
100t are a big clout team
nrg consistently sign big names even if they flop

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m0rtem
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prx will 100% stay. but I think GE might go

#45
yayvsboaster
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m0rtem [#44]

prx will 100% stay. but I think GE might go

they surely want SA viewership so if GE got kicked another SA org will come

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GuGengKwaMueng
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yayvsboaster [#45]

they surely want SA viewership so if GE got kicked another SA org will come

Should be good then we will get SA representative again

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Hyxagon
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i think it’s very likely G2 will get a franchising spot

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NeGii44
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yayvsboaster [#45]

they surely want SA viewership so if GE got kicked another SA org will come

There is no other org in SA who has experience like GE

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Disastered
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ButterflyEffect23 [#5]

yeah, Secret is getting cut imo

who else tho?

I will strangle the both of you

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UhhBrandon
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Disastered [#49]

I will strangle the both of you

secret will be good when they finally move on from jessievash but thats never gonna happen

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zephyrara
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Frogger0_0 [#23]

the owner is a billionaire
but i am very doubtful of how he made it

the ceo isnt a billionaire and he was an ex csgo player, cz prx was originally a cs org but transitioned to valo

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tserc
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ButterflyEffect23 [#5]

yeah, Secret is getting cut imo

who else tho?

imo Secret could be getting cut from Pacific, but they COULD apply to be an EMEA team (I would mald if that happens but I think it's happening lowk)

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tserc
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Frogger0_0 [#12]

dfm over zeta is the easy choice

CR messed up their application iirc, they can apply for partnership over DFM fs

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Average_VCT_fan
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H3ENnZ [#26]

dont think so, only PH representation (org)

well GE is doing a better job representing PH lol.

#55
Anzaldinho
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NeGii44 [#48]

There is no other org in SA who has experience like GE

we all just forgetting s8ul now are we

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Iamronaksingh
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yayvsboaster [#36]

yea probably

Franchise slots may be too expensive for VLT. As of now, GE is the only option

#57
Melloaw
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Average_VCT_fan [#54]

well GE is doing a better job representing PH lol.

lmao

#58
Iamronaksingh
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Anzaldinho [#55]

we all just forgetting s8ul now are we

S8UL will not get the franchise slot of GE . As a mobile gaming org, S8UL has zero experience in PC games. Do you think Riot would give them a slot?

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Anzaldinho
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Iamronaksingh [#58]

S8UL will not get the franchise slot of GE . As a mobile gaming org, S8UL has zero experience in PC games. Do you think Riot would give them a slot?

why is s8ul in ewc partnership then? only for mobile?

#60
Iamronaksingh
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Anzaldinho [#59]

why is s8ul in ewc partnership then? only for mobile?

Because GE rejected it

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Anzaldinho
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Iamronaksingh [#60]

Because GE rejected it

cope
S8UL always will be bigger than GE

#62
Iamronaksingh
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Anzaldinho [#61]

cope
S8UL always will be bigger than GE

lmao
BGIS farmers

#63
yayvsboaster
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Iamronaksingh [#56]

Franchise slots may be too expensive for VLT. As of now, GE is the only option

expensive ? how , riot will pay the org right?

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yayvsboaster
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Anzaldinho [#61]

cope
S8UL always will be bigger than GE

S8UL does nothing for esports in India , they are more link entertainment org , rather VLT deserved more then S8UL
and abt partnership S8UL got EWC and they will probably play in pubg or cdm and i think GE never was offered EWC offer

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Iamronaksingh
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yayvsboaster [#63]

expensive ? how , riot will pay the org right?

riot will pay the org right? Yes. but They cannot fulfill the riot requirement

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yayvsboaster
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Iamronaksingh [#65]

riot will pay the org right? Yes. but They cannot fulfill the riot requirement

they hv fan following in india , wht else is needed even earlier vlt and GE were 2 only orgs selected from SA for franchise but GE got lucky

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SleepingSnorlax
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Anzaldinho [#61]

cope
S8UL always will be bigger than GE

Not a cope the owner has said they are focusing towards vct not towards EWC

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Iamronaksingh
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yayvsboaster [#66]

they hv fan following in india , wht else is needed even earlier vlt and GE were 2 only orgs selected from SA for franchise but GE got lucky

I am not a VLT hater. I am happy to see VLT in franchised to represent SA. As of now, GE looks better

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bearmans
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boom might get the spot, if RRQ got kicked.

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yayvsboaster
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Iamronaksingh [#68]

I am not a VLT hater. I am happy to see VLT in franchised to represent SA. As of now, GE looks better

bro am not saying u r hater i m just trying to know if I m missing smth that i dont know

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ButterflyEffect23
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Hyxagon [#47]

i think it’s very likely G2 will get a franchising spot

yeah but how is this related to Pacific

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H3ENnZ
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Average_VCT_fan [#54]

well GE is doing a better job representing PH lol.

(org)
GE is never going to sign a full PH roster lol

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Hobbit
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eg, furia, leviatan
gx, bbl?
ge, ts

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soonwookong
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H3ENnZ [#72]

(org)
GE is never going to sign a full PH roster lol

and ts is also not a ph org, they just did happen to have a ph roster, riot might go and pick up a ph org

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ButterflyEffect23 [#29]

well, T1 are safe

If one of them has to go it's between DRX/GEN.G
DRX has the history, was in the scene since the start, etc
GEN.G are a bigger org and they have a recent masters title

idk. maybe they can keep all three?

yeah keeping all 3 makes most sense

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soonwookong
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Iamronaksingh [#58]

S8UL will not get the franchise slot of GE . As a mobile gaming org, S8UL has zero experience in PC games. Do you think Riot would give them a slot?

same reason rrq got slot over boom

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Effluxi
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Doinurmum [#37]

i don't think its about performance more about finances and other PR stuff

Not being willing to invest will likely be a big factor for some of the teams that have been consistently mediocre.

#78
BBTBNWJDFOTSYK
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catNmouse [#3]

team secret

as much as i want a franchised org that reps ph, i want them to get cut. they got a shady ceo, kick/gambling/saudi sponsors and most of all, razzie binx as a content creator, cringe af

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Hyxagon
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ButterflyEffect23 [#71]

yeah but how is this related to Pacific

you never know what could happen

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