Maybe because the best tier 1 prospects choose cs instead of valorant? you are free to argue if eu val has fallen off, but because cs remains more popular, val simply doesn't have such a huge source of talent there, like apac or china or americas?
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Possible reason why eu val fell off?
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sentinelmain377 [#2]still the best region of all time
5 : 5 : 2 : 1 in trophies
wins the H2H in SERIES and MAPS against every single regionidc what any dumass without solid stats says
When was the last time EMEA won an event?
Nef0r0 [#3]When was the last time EMEA won an event?
when was the last time AMERICAS won an event
and also, in the past 3 finals, EU has been there 2 times while AMERICAS once. SO LOOK AT AMERICAS, not EMEA
MrBlooBloom [#6]Because france fell off in both Cs and Val (I was never a big thing in val anyway but you get what I mean) resulting in a big loss of potential great players
France fell off? Vitality just won Kato and the Woo is goated
sentinelmain377 [#4]when was the last time AMERICAS won an event
and also, in the past 3 finals, EU has been there 2 times while AMERICAS once. SO LOOK AT AMERICAS, not EMEA
america has a different problem, the talent is separated among different teams
gofert [#9]France fell off? Vitality just won Kato and the Woo is goated
only 2 french players, have switched to international in 2022
The_Preacher [#12]I disagree, will come back to this post ,if I remember you after they win a tournament this year
I mean the trend shows that EMEA is not good enough to win internationally anymore. Playoffs are good, but winning events is what matters
Nef0r0 [#13]I mean the trend shows that EMEA is not good enough to win internationally anymore. Playoffs are good, but winning events is what matters
Trend is the worst tool to measure any stat in Valorant (other than comps)
Nef0r0 [#11]only 2 french players, have switched to international in 2022
Fair, I don't know much about CS I just like vitality lol
gofert [#15]Fair, I don't know much about CS I just like vitality lol
I mean finally there is a french team which is like tier 1.5, 3dmax (maybe possibly going to gentle mates), but I feel like they are a few big guns away from becoming tier 1
KOMPOSTO [#7]emea t2 prefers cs over val now
I mean eu cs hasn't lost a single S-tier pro to valorant, meanwhile NA CS got massacred
The_Preacher [#14]Trend is the worst tool to measure any stat in Valorant (other than comps)
disagree, if for 1.5 years you haven't won a single international, then I would say you got worse compared to other regions
Nef0r0 [#18]disagree, if for 1.5 years you haven't won a single international, then I would say you got worse compared to other regions
See I agree they didn't won a tournament
But it's not like they were getting smacked like CN other than EDG
Th came #2 in back to back GF
LA was bit unlucky for FNATIC as they have to face their kryptonite twice ( They didn't deserve to win but a slightly better seed and FNATIC would have clean sweeped 2023)
Madrid and Bangkok is quite similar when they have young teams and they crumbled under pressure
They are still top contenders and not like CN #2-3 seed where fell off is quite visible)
Moreover AMERICAS #2 SEED SEN LOST TO TL #2 SEED of EMEA
So the competition is super close
I think stats sometimes don't give the whole overview
The_Preacher [#19]See I agree they didn't won a tournament
But it's not like they were getting smacked like CN other than EDG
Th came #2 in back to back GF
LA was bit unlucky for FNATIC as they have to face their kryptonite twice ( They didn't deserve to win but a slightly better seed and FNATIC would have clean sweeped 2023)
Madrid and Bangkok is quite similar when they have young teams and they crumbled under pressure
They are still top contenders and not like CN #2-3 seed where fell off is quite visible)
Moreover AMERICAS #2 SEED SEN LOST TO TL #2 SEED of EMEA
So the competition is super closeI think stats sometimes don't give the whole overview
i am completely agreeing with this one
sentinelmain377 [#2]still the best region of all time
5 : 5 : 2 : 1 in trophies
wins the H2H in SERIES and MAPS against every single regionidc what any dumass without solid stats says
delusional
not all trophies are equal.
Americas: 2 champs, 3 masters
EMEA: 1 champs, 3 masters, 1 Mickey Mouse cup
half of emea trophies come from prehistoric times too
rud [#21]delusional
not all trophies are equal.
Americas: 2 champs, 3 masters
EMEA: 1 champs, 3 masters, 1 Mickey Mouse cuphalf of emea trophies come from prehistoric times too
2023 trophies are prehistoric?
Cacachocolat [#22]2023 trophies are prehistoric?
He said half bro you dumb. Not even agreeing your just illiterate.
Nef0r0 [#10]america has a different problem, the talent is separated among different teams
what is that argument 😭
washedradiant [#23]He said half bro you dumb. Not even agreeing your just illiterate.
Trophies don't have expiry date.
sentinelmain377 [#4]when was the last time AMERICAS won an event
and also, in the past 3 finals, EU has been there 2 times while AMERICAS once. SO LOOK AT AMERICAS, not EMEA
when was the last time an international was in EMEA or Americas... apac and china are donefor at these next 2 events...
Nef0r0 [#16]I mean finally there is a french team which is like tier 1.5, 3dmax (maybe possibly going to gentle mates), but I feel like they are a few big guns away from becoming tier 1
3dmax is promising. (there's at least talent there)
Cacachocolat [#25]Trophies don't have expiry date.
he said fell off for a reason. one team region since 2022
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