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F0rsaken about prx situation

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#1
WatsomN

From his recent stream (now members-only, but one Indonesian clipper clipped it—I’m not sure if I'm allowed to drop the link??)

TL;DR (He spoke in Bahasa, so I tried translating it as best as I could):
"We tried everything we could and stepped out of our comfort zone. You name it—role changes, Jingg to Cypher, smth to Fade, etc.—but it didn’t work. For example, when we made a change, then got stomped, we changed it again immediately."
(Reads chat)
"Internal problems? Yeah, there were internal problems. The vibes in the team now (2025) feel different compared to 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024."
"Drastic changes? Not anytime soon, because we're on a short break right now. After that, we’ll be back to practicing in Korea."
*"I think having an insane duelist on the team is important right now" (mentioned aspas as an example). "Maybe everything would be alright if I were the duelist. :P Right, chat?" (Probably trolling)

Lmk if u want more

#2
emeraii
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I think they're being pressured externally which could break the teams cohesiveness.

#3
DrudaL
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and he spoke in an irritated tone when talking about roles in the team lol

#4
saebr
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emeraii [#2]

I think they're being pressured externally which could break the teams cohesiveness.

the pressure prx players get is like none other

#5
lalalalalala
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jinggs small agent poll kinda killed them

#6
nobody___100
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-j0nggg -ghostthing +aspas +victor
d4v4i + victor igl, aspas duelist

#7
iplayval
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Not having 100% faith in your duelist can’t be a good sign. I hope they’re able to mesh again. Something definitely wasn’t playing his best, but that seemed very rare to see

#8
SleepingSnorlax
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With what you mentioned it is clearly seen that something and jingg is starting to become a problem for the team even if they are trying role swaps and making work it out still getting completely failed in it

#9
ninjaturtle
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This calls for changes 100%

f0rsakeN deserves better teammates

#10
bricky_
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the thing is, they relied so much on him. from flexing, fragging to igl

what they really need rn is a sova dedicated player and sentinel player

#11
Atpdel
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Kick j0nggg and Al0cks

#12
Ullyr
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This sounds like a recipe for disaster... teammates not trusting each other... dark thoughts of failure... frustrations.... it will only lead to a downward spiral.

#13
jixk
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DrudaL [#3]

and he spoke in an irritated tone when talking about roles in the team lol

do we blame him man played every single agent in the game for this teams roles lol

#14
WatsomN
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jixk [#13]

do we blame him man played every single agent in the game for this teams roles lol

he even mentioned "i sacrificed to play any agent my team needed, but still couldnt win"

#15
MrBlooBloom
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Unless split 1 is all of a sudden incredible for the team, I think they will seriously consider changes around that time, according to how teams handled those kind of situations last year

#16
Huyab
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ninjaturtle [#9]

This calls for changes 100%

f0rsakeN deserves better teammates

f0rsakeN to RRQ would be stacked ngl, I still want f0rsakeN to be successful in PRX tho.

imagine:
f0rsakeN - Flex
Monyet - Flex/Controller
Kushy - Init
Xffero - Senti
Jemkin - Perma Duelist

#17
Terpischora
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forsaken should move to eu

#18
bronzil_enjoyer
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nobody___100 [#6]

-j0nggg -ghostthing +aspas +victor
d4v4i + victor igl, aspas duelist

are you dumb 2 imports???

#19
bronzil_enjoyer
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the thing is they have 3 duelist players

#20
MrBlooBloom
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Huyab [#16]

f0rsakeN to RRQ would be stacked ngl, I still want f0rsakeN to be successful in PRX tho.

imagine:
f0rsakeN - Flex
Monyet - Flex/Controller
Kushy - Init
Xffero - Senti
Jemkin - Perma Duelist

Nobody wants to see the goat in such a boring ahh team

#21
WatsomN
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Huyab [#16]

f0rsakeN to RRQ would be stacked ngl, I still want f0rsakeN to be successful in PRX tho.

imagine:
f0rsakeN - Flex
Monyet - Flex/Controller
Kushy - Init
Xffero - Senti
Jemkin - Perma Duelist

100% making champs, this roster easily beat talon (if we assume talon is the gatekeeper of 4th champs slot)

#22
Marcusgeez
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bricky_ [#10]

the thing is, they relied so much on him. from flexing, fragging to igl

what they really need rn is a sova dedicated player and sentinel player

they kinda need to start fresh ngl. kick everyone and build a decent team around him and let him do whatever the fuck he wants. sounds ridiculous if we consider what they have and they can achieve together as a team talent wise. but otherwise, i can see him force himself to go out of prx since there's any team in the EU and NA that could very well use him.

#23
zekken_on_adderall
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nobody___100 [#6]

-j0nggg -ghostthing +aspas +victor
d4v4i + victor igl, aspas duelist

c0cktor is nowhere near existing prx players, he's so dogshit that no one has picked him up, and that speaks for himself.

#24
hehe444
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bronzil_enjoyer [#19]

the thing is they have 3 duelist players

You mean 4. Davai also duelist for prx back then

#25
hehe444
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bricky_ [#10]

the thing is, they relied so much on him. from flexing, fragging to igl

what they really need rn is a sova dedicated player and sentinel player

Crazyguy coming to save prx. Igl+sova

#26
hehe444
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ninjaturtle [#9]

This calls for changes 100%

f0rsakeN deserves better teammates

Others also deserve better teamates. They have trust problem each other

#27
hmjkhbhuy
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hehe444 [#24]

You mean 4. Davai also duelist for prx back then

nah 5, how could you forget mindfreaks raze LOL

#28
malims
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bronzil_enjoyer [#18]

are you dumb 2 imports???

never thought I'd agree with you.

#29
bronzil_enjoyer
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hehe444 [#24]

You mean 4. Davai also duelist for prx back then

davai played jett as awper ig

#30
Huyab
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MrBlooBloom [#20]

Nobody wants to see the goat in such a boring ahh team

That boring ahh team ranked 5th in overall stats in all franchised region kickoff combined..
There's a reason RRQ are placed quite high by most people after kickoff despite not qualifying to master bangkok.

#31
geduelist
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They are prx
They'll fix it
All they need Is time ⌚

#32
bees
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Huyab [#30]

That boring ahh team ranked 5th in overall stats in all franchised region kickoff combined..
There's a reason RRQ are placed quite high by most people after kickoff despite not qualifying to master bangkok.

The difference in attack win% and defense win% is so interesting for some of these teams

#33
Asianfattyx
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The couldve gotten primmie and kush instead but they keep j0ngg and s0mething

#34
Huyab
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bees [#32]

The difference in attack win% and defense win% is so interesting for some of these teams

Yeah, teams like DFM destroy when they're attacking (MeiY effect) but shit on defense. While team like Wolves are the opposite.

#35
botfragger432
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kick j0nggg, everything will be fine af and will gain their pre-era PRX boost !

#36
SleepingSnorlax
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geduelist [#31]

They are prx
They'll fix it
All they need Is time ⌚

They have been given a lot of time how much more can you give to consider changes bro even the region competition has become much stronger with the exception of Zeta

#37
stellaresca
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WatsomN [#14]

he even mentioned "i sacrificed to play any agent my team needed, but still couldnt win"

forsaken is that one dude on ur ranked games that fills then gets angry at the quad negative instalocker duelist

honestly i feel bad for him 😭😭😭

#38
nobody___100
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bronzil_enjoyer [#18]

are you dumb 2 imports???

victor wong is chinese

#39
Tsikhamani
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Against T1 on bind, something picked fade and davia clove, I literally don't understand why they added clove when something's gekko was good and he was comfortable on it and if they picked clove it should be something playing it not davia!! They really need to give agents to those who can play not just because of outside pressure and I dint watch Jing play Cypher but he had good numbers on his senti debut!!

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