na teams playing without flor is disgrace.She is one of the if not the best duelist in Na.Black day for esports..
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Ronyko23 [#4]r u sure about that??
I assume since trans people can travel there. its the promoting LGQBT that is punishable
methlover69 [#5]umm i'm clueless and i don't know ball lmaooo
u think flor is top 3 duelists in na?...
oliv- [#8]u think flor is top 3 duelists in na?...
i think she unironically could be with a normal team
methlover69 [#9]i think she unironically could be with a normal team
yeah of course seeing how shes on apeks right now, but OP is saying shes "one of the best if not the best in NA" meaning she has to be like top 3 in na. i just dont agree with that tho.. zekken jawgemo dgzin oxy mada aspas ?? like hello . the only duelist i can see her replacing is icy
Raycist [#13]Americans try not to overrate florescent. Difficulty level—impossible
Nah she deserves all the praise she has been getting.
Yistyy [#14]Nah she deserves all the praise she has been getting.
Not even half of it frankly. Mada, Oxy and zekken even tho semon1 has fallen off he still clears flor. Since the op especially mentioned NA i haven't even included Aspas and Dgzin hell even Keznit might be on par with her if not better. I have no clue how you guys still glaze flor despite having so many goated duelists.
Raycist [#15]Not even half of it frankly. Mada, Oxy and zekken even tho semon1 has fallen off he still clears flor. Since the op especially mentioned NA i haven't even included Aspas and Dgzin hell even Keznit might be on par with her if not better. I have no clue how you guys still glaze flor despite having so many goated duelists.
I think this post it an outlier, most people don’t rate her at that level. The praise she has been getting is that she is definitely a tier 1 level player and arguably the best player on APEKS (I put arguably because of bantujax visa issues so we don’t know what full practiced APEKS team looks like) and possibly a top half duelist in emea
Raycist [#15]Not even half of it frankly. Mada, Oxy and zekken even tho semon1 has fallen off he still clears flor. Since the op especially mentioned NA i haven't even included Aspas and Dgzin hell even Keznit might be on par with her if not better. I have no clue how you guys still glaze flor despite having so many goated duelists.
Thats just because NA is stacked. In emea she is easily a top 3 duelist. That region is so weak she could probably carry apeks to the 3rd seed tbh.
Yistyy [#17]Thats just because NA is stacked. In emea she is easily a top 3 duelist. That region is so weak she could probably carry apeks to the 3rd seed tbh.
How is she worthy of all the praise if you're pitting her against weaker players? Also top 3 duelist? lmao
Do you even watch EMEA? If she was so good why she got never won a match lmao? In her first match the duelist of the supposedly bottom feeder team after apeks (GM) cleared her (click). In the next match the smokes player of TL cleared her, she never even faced kajak or derke or lewn. Delusional as you maybe thinking she comes in even top 5 is insane work.
methlover69 [#9]i think she unironically could be with a normal team
even in EMEA she doesnt have crazy impact. She has very flashy clips and she has insane mechanical skill but to say shes the best is flat out idiotic and uneducated
NRGSUPERFAN [#7]I assume since trans people can travel there. its the promoting LGQBT that is punishable
yes in saudi being lgqbt isnt a problem but promoting it or waving a rainbow flag around is the problem
Raycist [#19]How is she worthy of all the praise if you're pitting her against weaker players? Also top 3 duelist? lmao
Do you even watch EMEA? If she was so good why she got never won a match lmao? In her first match the duelist of the supposedly bottom feeder team after apeks (GM) cleared her (click). In the next match the smokes player of TL cleared her, she never even faced kajak or derke or lewn. Delusional as you maybe thinking she comes in even top 5 is insane work.
unfortunately shes not even top 3 duelist, she's top 1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2276/champions-tour-2025-emea-kickoff?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=all
remember its basically a 2v8 and she still playing good
Raycist [#19]How is she worthy of all the praise if you're pitting her against weaker players? Also top 3 duelist? lmao
Do you even watch EMEA? If she was so good why she got never won a match lmao? In her first match the duelist of the supposedly bottom feeder team after apeks (GM) cleared her (click). In the next match the smokes player of TL cleared her, she never even faced kajak or derke or lewn. Delusional as you maybe thinking she comes in even top 5 is insane work.
#22. she has this team on her back and has one of the highest ratings in emea, despite losing both matches!
JustHunter [#20]even in EMEA she doesnt have crazy impact. She has very flashy clips and she has insane mechanical skill but to say shes the best is flat out idiotic and uneducated
3rd highest rated EMEA player
Raycist [#19]How is she worthy of all the praise if you're pitting her against weaker players? Also top 3 duelist? lmao
Do you even watch EMEA? If she was so good why she got never won a match lmao? In her first match the duelist of the supposedly bottom feeder team after apeks (GM) cleared her (click). In the next match the smokes player of TL cleared her, she never even faced kajak or derke or lewn. Delusional as you maybe thinking she comes in even top 5 is insane work.
brother keiko cleared every single player in EMEA lmao its not the point
yxpala [#26]2 games played
yes but how can you say she doesnt have crazy impact when apeks' games are literally entirely dependant on her getting the maps close
look at her first blood % she is literally getting them everything to win but they just cant close
TM06Nick [#11]Its not an actual world cup. Its just an invite only tournament. they call it world cup to garner interest
it’s a literal mickey mouse invitational less significant than lock in with tier 2 level production
goatman123 [#27]yes but how can you say she doesnt have crazy impact when apeks' games are literally entirely dependant on her getting the maps close
look at her first blood % she is literally getting them everything to win but they just cant close
i don't think 2 games are enough to state if she's really that good or not, even shanks can have impact in that team on a good day, she is sure mechanically skilled but i think we need to see more of her in t1 valo to even put her in any conversation
nobody___100 [#22]unfortunately shes not even top 3 duelist, she's top 1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2276/champions-tour-2025-emea-kickoff?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=all
remember its basically a 2v8 and she still playing good
A lot of players play 2v8 a lot of times and play good. It's about doing it consistently? And what's with the ragebait? Top 1? Seriously? She played only two matches for fuck's sake. Flor is dickriders are a different breed.
Yistyy [#23]#22. she has this team on her back and has one of the highest ratings in emea, despite losing both matches!
She only played 5 maps let that sink in. You have no idea how ratings work. Furia's sub in team's duelist is highest rated in vct Americas so is he better than aspas?
goatman123 [#25]brother keiko cleared every single player in EMEA lmao its not the point
I don't get it, y'all consistently push the agenda that flor is the best but when comparing to good players you fold in a second.
Raycist [#31]She only played 5 maps let that sink in. You have no idea how ratings work. Furia's sub in team's duelist is highest rated in vct Americas so is he better than aspas?
lmao that is not the same. you're comparing 5 maps against competent teams vs 2 maps against 2G.
goatman123 [#27]yes but how can you say she doesnt have crazy impact when apeks' games are literally entirely dependant on her getting the maps close
look at her first blood % she is literally getting them everything to win but they just cant close
Yea her impact is not that of a top duelist. Aspas would be singlehandedly winning these games for Apeks, its not like she went against any good teams either way.
I didnt say she was bad but your blatant bias towards her is just weird man, she aint allat
Stormyv8 [#18]icy got picked ahead of her for EG, does it mean icy got to play in EWC ?
i doubt theyre going to invite EG lol, from americas it will probably be SEN and 100T
yxpala [#29]i don't think 2 games are enough to state if she's really that good or not, even shanks can have impact in that team on a good day, she is sure mechanically skilled but i think we need to see more of her in t1 valo to even put her in any conversation
No shes definitely good, theres no refuting that point but to claim shed be top duelist in NA is by far one of the most delusional statements ever said on VLR including bait
Raycist [#30]A lot of players play 2v8 a lot of times and play good. It's about doing it consistently? And what's with the ragebait? Top 1? Seriously? She played only two matches for fuck's sake. Flor is dickriders are a different breed.
flor is a great player, i think youre overestimating how good people say she is, no one is claiming her to be the best in the world,were just saying she can easily compete with the best of the best. Shes playing on a team that by all metrics is sabotaging her impact. Their strats comps and teamwork seem to be so against Flor being treated as an X factor and its frankly sad.
I personally think players like Aspas and DGZ would be carrying apeks to at least another 2 map wins but nonetheless Flor is an insane prospect
Raycist [#32]I don't get it, y'all consistently push the agenda that flor is the best but when comparing to good players you fold in a second.
he means she diffed keiko who cleared every EMEA player dumbass
Yistyy [#33]lmao that is not the same. you're comparing 5 maps against competent teams vs 2 maps against 2G.
How far will you go to get flor to jizz all over you
void_erebos [#39]Americans try not to overhype trans player: impossible. Flor is fucking C tier player at best
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