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VCT Format

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#1
noubbi

I hate the current format so much. I would much rather prefer a BO1 (because BO3s have too much games) where teams play each one of other team.

#2
humble_y0y_10k
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stupid

#6
noubbi
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You're the type of person who claps when the plane lands.

#7
SomeOne__val
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What kind of insult is that???? I'm laughing

#18
JustHunter
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bro really got 10 down votes, man you gotta stop with this dumb ahh bait

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kfan4238173
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i would prefer a bo7 for every game so we can truly see whos better

#13
danii1
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One game per two days type shit 😭

#17
Prathades
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imagine tho, waiting 2 weeks to see your team play for 2 days straight.

#4
Seojun_19
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absolute nonsense

#5
m4
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Low key I heard that m4 is to blame for the new format.

#8
n1zf
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biggest ragebaiter

#9
Blueberry77
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Bo1 and who get to choose which map they play that’s nonsense

#10
kfan4238173
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A ban
B ban
A ban
B ban
A ban
B ban
one map remaining

#11
Blueberry77
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Hmmm make sense but still bo3 is better

#12
Froggy0_0
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bro is retarded fr

#14
brams6661
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if you want to see more flukes, then sure

#19
noubbi
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There won't be any flukes since it will not be a single/double elimination tournament, but one team player every other team in one map, 12 teams total so each team will play 11 matches. I would argue the current format has more fluke bias since worst case scenario, you're only going to play 4 maps. That is way too less of a sample size to determine if one team is actually good than playing 11 matches.

#24
DelusionalNRGFan
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you understand this is only one part of the season right

#15
Anguibok
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What are your argument in favor of that ?

#20
noubbi
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Argument replied to the brams guy

#16
Prathades
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Bro lots of flukes would've happened because of that. Remember rrq lost the first map against dfm and ts just for them to 13-3 and 13-4 on the last 2 maps. And Geng would've lost against Rrq because they got 13-6 on their first map. I know they can't picked the map but if that was the case imagine ge got only abyss/haven or bme got bind. I don't want bme to suddenly make it to master just because they're only good at bind.

#21
Rita-nae
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Less skilled

#22
z12
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i would much rather watch 4 bo5s every day than watch 20 bo1s

#23
noubbi
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I apologize to everyone who I got trolled and also for not explaining. I stand by my opinion and here are my arguments:

  1. We would still get the same number of games (slightly even more than the current format). Proof here: https://pasteboard.co/jbrL12fDYRmw.png
  2. IMHO it will be good for the fans since they get to watch more games of their teams.
  3. I think it is a bad thing for the esports circuit if the fans can only watch 2 days of matches of their team and then nothing (if you think there are people like that, I am one of those people).
  4. It will be good for the health of Esports orgs and players since they no longer get a 1 week of pro play and months of absolutely nothing.
  5. A comment said there will be a "Fluke factor" with this format but I argue the opposite since ONE bad day of a team in the lower bracket can end their run rather than having to play each individual teams which should show a better representation of the team's actual strength.
  6. VENUE: Ticket sales will no longer be a hit or miss since a ticket can have multiple teams playing in a single day. No more scenario where a LATAM vs LATAM match will have 10 audience (Idk the actual numbers)
#28
Anguibok
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1/ Ok
2/ Faria have good argument to reduce the number of games
3/ Triple elim is better
4/ Good point
5/ Debatable
6/ I dont have this point

  • Counter argument : In round robin they are game that have no impact on the final result, doble elim allow more games where team face team that have the same level than them.

Your point is more defendable since it's for kickoff and not for Split 1 and 2.

#29
noubbi
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That is a valid point. Teams at the bottom of the leaderboard will have nothing to play for, except I guess if they implement something like a circuit point but that's too much of a stretch.

#30
noubbi
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I actually didn't think of it as an "only for Kickoff" event but dang! That's a great idea. If it was only for Kickoff, I think it would be an awesome and unique format

#25
i_hate_winning
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Round robin bo1s are terrible and teams could easily upset, blast used to have this format in csgo in 2019

#26
KssS
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BIG NO. B01s are reserved for games like MOBAs where maps dont really matter. In tac fps games like valorant B03s can gauge a teams strength to prepare for different maps and different situations. Otherwise we would only have teams that are only good on a few maps

#27
noubbi
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That's a really good point although I do think it will not be as bad as you think. Each team has 3 bans each and has the liberty to ban the map the other team has played last (except if it's the first game) but even if it is, the map picked is obviously a "good" map of both teams, or else they would've banned it.

I would also argue against the team "only being good" at certain maps because there is no way to tell what the other team will ban. Even if you only perma ban 3 maps, that's just ONE more ban than the current format.

Edit: All of these "cons" doesn't outweigh the benefit of a BO1 Round Robin to the health of the ESport

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