Who can beat vitality ? Genuine question 🤔👀 i wonder about it whenever i remember what they picked up 💀
OCARINA [#4]Never.
why not?? its not proven you can't give a definite no. and saying EDG is fair since they beat the beat EMEA team last year
Asunas_Chinese_Teacher [#2]Sadhaak almost ran them down like dogs with okay-ish players
KC stucked by good players tho !! Sadhaak champs winner as an igl so they are solide too
Swarleyyy [#6]Honestly looking at their match against KC, they dont look as insane as they look on paper
Matter of time
OCARINA [#12]Vitality at its lowest won against TH twice last year so you still think the same even after developing
don't matter since TH went to GF of masters and champs where it matters
i will only say the teams i think have a chance of beating VIT from EMEA, as its not fair to compare between regions yet. from EMEA, i see only 2 teams that can beat them in their current forms; FUT or TH. FUT is my hot take, and it is what i have on my pickems. the rest of the EMEA teams dont look strong enough yet.
OCARINA [#12]Vitality at its lowest won against TH twice last year so you still think the same even after developing
EVEN TRACE BEAT VIT
my-dad-ate-my-toes [#13]Heretics, G2 and EDG
Those 3 + VIT are the Bangkok contenders atm
Yo anyone get defeat heretics in a final
unknown_trash [#16]i will only say the teams i think have a chance of beating VIT from EMEA, as its not fair to compare between regions yet. from EMEA, i see only 2 teams that can beat them in their current forms; FUT or TH. FUT is my hot take, and it is what i have on my pickems. the rest of the EMEA teams dont look strong enough yet.
Good take 🔥 i really like that W
shrike- [#19]th, fut, g2, edg, maybe even sen
vit isn’t a superteam
Other than FUT,can you elaborate why the others are capable of ??
OCARINA [#21]Other than FUT,can you elaborate why the others are capable of ??
because the other teams are good and i don’t think vitality is as untouchable as some people think they are
Asunas_Chinese_Teacher [#2]Sadhaak almost ran them down like dogs with okay-ish players
kc and vitality look like world beaters on paper imo(not superteams, world beaters)
shrike- [#22]because the other teams are good and i don’t think vitality is as untouchable as some people think they are
TH lost twice with vit last year so i don't think they can after their develope
G2 is very good and huge team but i don't think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks 💀
EDG found luck last year imo
OCARINA [#25]TH lost twice with vit last year so i don't think they can after their develope
G2 is very good and huge team but i don't think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks 💀
EDG found luck last year imo
EDG found luck . average NPC statement
OCARINA [#25]TH lost twice with vit last year so i don't think they can after their develope
G2 is very good and huge team but i don't think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks 💀
EDG found luck last year imo
TH in champs was not the same TH that vit beat. they would easily destroy that roster of vit in champs if they met
EDG have very good players and are more disciplined than their previous iteration they can stand a chance against vitality
OCARINA [#25]TH lost twice with vit last year so i don't think they can after their develope
G2 is very good and huge team but i don't think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks 💀
EDG found luck last year imo
i don’t think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks
see this is the problem, you rate them so highly solely because of the names they have on the team but it takes more than just slapping good players into a roster for a team to be good. nrg 2024 proves this & i think vit 2025 has a chance to share the same fate
shrike- [#28]i don’t think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks
see this is the problem, you rate them so highly solely because of the names they have on the team but it takes more than just slapping good players into a roster for a team to be good. nrg 2024 proves this & i think vit 2025 has a chance to share the same fate
funny how people think firepower is everything, prx are a team who have some of the best firepower in pacific at least if not in the world and they got smacked by g2 twice last year who has “worse firepower”
OCARINA [#12]Vitality at its lowest won against TH twice last year so you still think the same even after developing
vitality won vs th at their lowest*
fixed it for you
catNmouse [#31]funny how people think firepower is everything, prx are a team who have some of the best firepower in pacific at least if not in the world and they got smacked by g2 twice last year who has “worse firepower”
G2 is probably the only team in the world that this applies to. they have zero star players (one if you count 1 singular leaf) but a phenomenal sense of teamwork and fundamentals. they are a very interesting team.
VIT won't go undefeated till end of 2025.
From EMEA I can see TH, FUT maybe some 'upset' from other teams.
International teams: EDG, Trace, G2, SEN, PRX, T1, GenG.
If you actually genuinely believe VIT won't lose a single game till end of year, go make a bet and I'll add you to the "keeping receipts" thread.
danii1 [#33]they only played one game, i think we saw them in a good form against KC, let's see if they have a bad form too
You literally watched the bad form of them
OCARINA [#37]You literally watched the bad form of them
good form on haven, they looked shaky on the other 2 maps.
OCARINA [#25]TH lost twice with vit last year so i don't think they can after their develope
G2 is very good and huge team but i don't think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks 💀
EDG found luck last year imo
Tbf both TH losses to VIT last year were in weird nebulous periods where TH was either burnt out or in a transitional stage where they were changing shit up
1st VIT loss was when they were preparing to add in Wo0t
2nd VIT loss was after they had played the maximum possible matches a team could play at Shanghai, come back to EMEA and had to reintegrate MiniBoo and change Wo0t back to flex, play another like 7 matches, change some of their comps from Shanghai to avoid getting figured out and prepping Abyss, all while VIT were literally hitting the best form we'd ever seen from them. After EMEA was done TH made it to finals and VIT got grouped. I don't think there's an argument for VIT being better than TH last year
shrike- [#28]i don’t think they can win against less sayf derke trexx kicks
see this is the problem, you rate them so highly solely because of the names they have on the team but it takes more than just slapping good players into a roster for a team to be good. nrg 2024 proves this & i think vit 2025 has a chance to share the same fate
nrg was never a superteam on paper with players like marved victor fns crashies
OCARINA [#37]You literally watched the bad form of them
if they were in bad form then they would’ve lost in a harsh way
unknown_trash [#38]good form on haven, they looked shaky on the other 2 maps.
kc were in great form on bind, abyss it was shaky from both teams
Cacachocolat [#40]nrg was never a superteam on paper with players like marved victor fns crashies
2 world champs + 3 players from a top 3 team in americas? this definitely was a “superteam” until we figured out they were ass
also i meant the early 2024 roster with demon1 ethan crashies victor marved
BLG_FNS [#17]EVEN TRACE BEAT VIT
yeah idk how they can deny it historically china has good records against EMEA teams.
Asunas_Chinese_Teacher [#2]Sadhaak almost ran them down like dogs with okay-ish players
KC were actually playing some high level valorant, like the GX and KC game might not have had the best players in the world in the lobby but both teams were playing great valorant and it was a really fun watch