Why is everyone so worried about edg win when you have sen making it to champions 2024 only because of point system(they got fucked by 100t)
Imo its the biggest fluke oat
Theres also optic masters win solely because of visa issues(huge fluke)
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TheAceGamer30 [#3]another k0rya bait post please don’t respond guys
How is it a bait
Everything that ive said is factual
Sen made it to champions only because points system saved them, 100t was supposed to play instead
Not even going to explain how optics win is a fluke(self explanatory)
Kirya [#4]How is it a bait
Everything that ive said is factual
Sen made it to champions only because points system saved them, 100t was supposed to play instead
Not even going to explain how optics win is a fluke(self explanatory)
could’ve been avoided if 100t just beat furia but i guess they didn’t want it enough
shrike- [#5]could’ve been avoided if 100t just beat furia but i guess they didn’t want it enough
Both teams were better than sentinels at the time and both deserved it more
Edit: they lost to g2 instead... (Best americas team)
Vaaero [#7]I mean the champions points worked as intended. Sen went on to get do well at champs so clearly the idea of champs points made sense
The champions system is braindead and unfair, you have to fight for your spot at chance
Just because sen got lucky in a few games at champs doesnt make it valid
Kirya [#8]The champions system is braindead and unfair, you have to fight for your spot at chance
Just because sen got lucky in a few games at champs doesnt make it valid
points were earned by defeating the other teams how is that luck? everyone start from 0 what you crying about
kotchan [#13]points were earned by defeating the other teams how is that luck? everyone start from 0 what you crying about
Defeating other teams 6 months prior
And then you get a free pass unlike every other team that worked hard and improved a lot mid season(like 100t)
Kirya [#6]Both teams were better than sentinels at the time and both deserved it more
Edit: they lost to g2 instead... (Best americas team)
wdym LEV was the top americas team. they had the highest placement in champs and won vct americas
maximumPlebus21 [#19]wdym LEV was the top americas team. they had the highest placement in champs and won vct americas
2nd best team sure
Changes nothing
100t shouldve went to champions as 4th seed and they deserved it because they worked hard mid season to improve
Unlike sentinels who only got worse overtime
Kirya [#17]Defeating other teams 6 months prior
And then you get a free pass unlike every other team that worked hard and improved a lot mid season(like 100t)
yap yap yap, so it's sentinels fault that those teams didnt perform well before champs?
kotchan [#21]yap yap yap, so it's sentinels fault that those teams didnt perform well before champs?
no he's just saying that giving that many champs points for wins that early was a flawed system (proven by the fact they changed that system this year). holy illiterate terrible strawman argment
kotchan [#21]yap yap yap, so it's sentinels fault that those teams didnt perform well before champs?
100t actually did perform well before champs
They beat sentinels 2-0 and shouldve gone as 4th seed
Kirya [#20]2nd best team sure
Changes nothing
100t shouldve went to champions as 4th seed and they deserved it because they worked hard mid season to improve
Unlike sentinels who only got worse overtime
worked so hard just to lose to furia with xand and kru with an off-role rookie who replaced their igl 😭😭😭
Kirya [#24]100t actually did perform well before champs
They beat sentinels 2-0 and shouldve gone as 4th seed
100t was not coming out of that group if they were to make champs let’s be honest 🤣. I bet they would have lost to fpx
yukky [#23]
Stopped being a sen fan because I got downvoted to oblivion unreasonably
Unfortunately it seems that sen fans wont accept me
Kirya [#29]Stopped being a sen fan because I got downvoted to oblivion unreasonably
Unfortunately it seems that sen fans wont accept me
Hmmmm, I wonder why
Kirya [#24]100t actually did perform well before champs
They beat sentinels 2-0 and shouldve gone as 4th seed
sentinels literally won a masters that season that alone should secure them a spot for champs what does 100t got? youre just a hater
shrike- [#26]worked so hard just to lose to furia with xand and kru with an off-role rookie who replaced their igl 😭😭😭
Furia game was irrelevant because 100t still made it out of group stage
And kru were genuinely a decent team and 3rd seed
As I said both kru and 100t deserved it more than sentinels
Kirya [#33]Furia game was irrelevant because 100t still made it out of group stage
And kru were genuinely a decent team and 3rd seed
As I said both kru and 100t deserved it more than sentinels
100t beating furia would’ve gotten them in champs guaranteed
kru in split 2 was ass
a team who loses to both these teams has no place in champs
Clucker [#32]Yall know its impossible to argue or convince someone who fully believes they are right
s0n fans
kotchan [#31]sentinels literally won a masters that season that alone should secure them a spot for champs what does 100t got? youre just a hater
Why would 8 team single elimination qualifiers mickey mouse event that happened way before champions matter? Why would that secure a spot if the team got way worse mid season
Just qualify to masters by beating other teams in vct if you truly deserve it
Kirya [#29]Stopped being a sen fan because I got downvoted to oblivion unreasonably
Unfortunately it seems that sen fans wont accept me
we all knew your real motive bud with those posts
teilwal [#36]s0n fans
💯
I should get a reward for trying to convince sen fans(its nearly impossible)
Blueberry77 [#34]Edg the biggest fluke team in history of esports gaming
buddy doesnt know drx 2022
Bluez [#30]Hmmmm, I wonder why
I dont know why
I guess sen fans dont like me so theres no point for me to become one anyways, cause I wont get accepted
TheAceGamer30 [#38]we all knew your real motive bud with those posts
What real motive? You're making it look like im an evil person with really bad plans
shrike- [#35]100t beating furia would’ve gotten them in champs guaranteed
kru in split 2 was ass
a team who loses to both these teams has no place in champs
And sentinels lost to the team that lost to both of these teams
So they're even worse
Kirya [#37]Why would 8 team single elimination qualifiers mickey mouse event that happened way before champions matter? Why would that secure a spot if the team got way worse mid season
Just qualify to masters by beating other teams in vct if you truly deserve it
mf only talking about mid season and discrediting the american team that bring home the only international trophyfor the whole region, i would agree with you if its ngr's soop title,
sentinel and g2 was the only teams from america that deserve all praise not like 100t
kotchan [#44]mf only talking about mid season and discrediting the american team that bring home the only international trophyfor the whole region, i would agree with you if its ngr's soop title,
sentinel and g2 was the only teams from america that deserve all praise not like 100t
Mid season matters way more for champions
Kirya [#46]Mid season matters way more for champions
uhm maybe winning master also matter? hello brain?
kotchan [#48]uhm maybe winning master also matter? hello brain?
Masters event like m*drid? Hell nah
Kirya [#43]And sentinels lost to the team that lost to both of these teams
So they're even worse
u right
c9 should’ve taken the fourth slot, they would’ve won champs
shrike- [#51]u right
c9 should’ve taken the fourth slot, they would’ve won champs
Id take c9 over sentinels
Kirya [#8]The champions system is braindead and unfair, you have to fight for your spot at chance
Just because sen got lucky in a few games at champs doesnt make it valid
sen got lucky
did sen not win an international title
Kirya [#57]Got lucky in champions
group stage says otherwise no? only lucky part abt their run at champs was that they had to face plumber team fpx
destroylonely [#58]Everyone knows this shit was a fucking fluke
Been saying it day 1
Sen fans are still in denial
Kirya [#4]How is it a bait
Everything that ive said is factual
Sen made it to champions only because points system saved them, 100t was supposed to play instead
Not even going to explain how optics win is a fluke(self explanatory)
they got 4th tho, i think thats better than 100T would've and thats not even entirely true, it wasnt a fluke because their h2h was better and 100T was still a worse team.
Toph_ [#64]100T should have simply played better. Visa issues is merely a skill issue. Cope
100t were the 4th best team in stage 2
sen were 5/6th best team in stage 2
100t beat sen in stage 2 playoffs to eliminate them and tied sentinels on champs points
but sentinels won the tiebreaker because they beat 100t in february. anyone can understand why someone would say 100t deserved to make champs, i dont know why u act like u dont. i guess its a bait comment
did sen deserve the spot over 100T? debatable
but guys theres good reason why the system was abolished lol
we can all agree that the internationals should be consisting of the best teams of those region and those teams of the highest skill level at the time to represent their region
may not be the case with sentinels but giving a spot to a team for a match or series that they have won half a year prior rather than rewarding a new and upcoming team which has improved and proved themselves to be more worthy of the spot therefore sending a objectively worse team to internationals and compromising the integrity of valorant seems illogical to me, even though the idea behind that was to reward year round performance but it wont work practically
kirya has a point but sen proved themselves to be worthy of that spot regardless
smthlikeyou11 [#67]did sen deserve the spot over 100T? debatable
but guys theres good reason why the system was abolished lolwe can all agree that the internationals should be consisting of the best teams of those region and those teams of the highest skill level at the time to represent their region
may not be the case with sentinels but giving a spot to a team for a match or series that they have won half a year prior rather than rewarding a new and upcoming team which has improved and proved themselves to be more worthy of the spot therefore sending a objectively worse team to internationals and compromising the integrity of valorant seems illogical to me, even though the idea behind that was to reward year round performance but it wont work practicallykirya has a point but sen proved themselves to be worthy of that spot regardless
his optic point is pure ragebait
smthlikeyou11 [#67]did sen deserve the spot over 100T? debatable
but guys theres good reason why the system was abolished lolwe can all agree that the internationals should be consisting of the best teams of those region and those teams of the highest skill level at the time to represent their region
may not be the case with sentinels but giving a spot to a team for a match or series that they have won half a year prior rather than rewarding a new and upcoming team which has improved and proved themselves to be more worthy of the spot therefore sending a objectively worse team to internationals and compromising the integrity of valorant seems illogical to me, even though the idea behind that was to reward year round performance but it wont work practicallykirya has a point but sen proved themselves to be worthy of that spot regardless
his optic point is pure ragebait
edit: idk why my thing posted twice
DSGFan [#69]his optic point is pure ragebait
i mean yeah like theres nothing u can do ab that its not like u can just teleport fpx there or something
Obvious ragebait but my opinion is that EDG may have trolled too hard in the offseason, and the top tier CN teams took it pretty seriously so now they're behind on practice and are still gravitating towards a lot of their ideas from champs (ie the Neon and Clove on Lotus) so theyre behind on the meta too which really got exposed with how poorly they navigated around the Vyse+Deadlock setups from Trace. I'd still be surprised if they miss Bangkok but I imagine it won't be an easy qualification for them if they rely mostly on dated/revealed strats and raw talent.
kfan4238173 [#66]100t were the 4th best team in stage 2
sen were 5/6th best team in stage 2
100t beat sen in stage 2 playoffs to eliminate them and tied sentinels on champs pointsbut sentinels won the tiebreaker because they beat 100t in february. anyone can understand why someone would say 100t deserved to make champs, i dont know why u act like u dont. i guess its a bait comment
Never claimed I don’t understand why you would think that however that’s NOT what happened. That’s a reason… there can be a reason to anything there’s a REASON sen went to champs and 100T didn’t… because sen was the better team in 2024. And absolutely any can understand why someone would say sen deserved to make champs. Honestly what is this nothing burger of a reply.
addorall [#72]Obvious ragebait but my opinion is that EDG may have trolled too hard in the offseason, and the top tier CN teams took it pretty seriously so now they're behind on practice and are still gravitating towards a lot of their ideas from champs (ie the Neon and Clove on Lotus) so theyre behind on the meta too which really got exposed with how poorly they navigated around the Vyse+Deadlock setups from Trace. I'd still be surprised if they miss Bangkok but I imagine it won't be an easy qualification for them if they rely mostly on dated/revealed strats and raw talent.
its more bad fundamentals rn. but EDG will bounce back. either way trace is strong bangcock winners strong so idrm
Kirya [#4]How is it a bait
Everything that ive said is factual
Sen made it to champions only because points system saved them, 100t was supposed to play instead
Not even going to explain how optics win is a fluke(self explanatory)
Why are we acting like like half of titles aren’t flukesi can go in order if u want
2021 sen only win because Sinatra gets allegations
2021 acend peaked for 1 event and were terrible after and before
2023 lock in can be a fluke depending on how u feel about comebacks like that but I don’t count it (Loud were definitely the better team on icebox)
2023 eg only win champs because 100 thieves got upset against the 3rd worst team in vct
danii1 [#77]Bait used to be believable. You're also starting to fall off buddy.
Just put the Sentinels in the bag
I mean I was asleep and this thread didnt stop receiving replies
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