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Aayan

Is the ban of tiktok really that deep?
As someone outside of america who doesn't admittedly use tiktok it doesn't seem that big of an issue to me
(I use insta reels and sometimes youtube shorts which are effectively the same thing, no?)

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just use ig reels or yt shorts, it’s not really that deep

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Denjisideals
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I mean they banned it here 5 years ago so we chilling
Never really understood the appeal of Tiktok anyways

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lead_water_enjoyer
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it really isn't. Never had tiktok anyway.

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laeDLaer
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this generation is finished

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Aayan
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shrike- [#2]

just use ig reels or yt shorts, it’s not really that deep

yeah, thats exactly what I was thinking, but I've kept on seeing people on social media going on and on about it

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Most of YT shorts and reels come from Tiktok.
Yes it is a big deal, bc Tiktok prioritize "minor" creators, while the others dont.
So a big amount of content/trend will he lost.

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Denjisideals [#3]

I mean they banned it here 5 years ago so we chilling
Never really understood the appeal of Tiktok anyways

who is we bro you are talking about India banning tiktok, not America 😭😭😭

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Can't answer legit. I don't use tiktok. However, from what i've heard the bill used to ban it has some very choice language which could be not good long term. I will be doing more research when I have off time.

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Never had tiktok and maybe the ban is for the best since most of this generation's brainrot came from tiktok anyway

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Gemiknight
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not really, although the only argument i've heard from people against the ban is that people/businesses who mainly used tiktok to advertise would have to switch to other apps.

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tiktok is currently the most dominant cultural force on the internet, it kinda is that deep

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my tiktok shop pro club t shirts 💔

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Prasinos [#7]

Most of YT shorts and reels come from Tiktok.
Yes it is a big deal, bc Tiktok prioritize "minor" creators, while the others dont.
So a big amount of content/trend will he lost.

also the censorship part, and livelihoods are being affected.

it’s more like the principle of the whole thing rather than the actual app.

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Aayan
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FlyDeuS [#9]

Can't answer legit. I don't use tiktok. However, from what i've heard the bill used to ban it has some very choice language which could be not good long term. I will be doing more research when I have off time.

hmm that's interesting. I'm going to look in to that further too
best probably not to discuss that further here since that creeps in to politics which isn't allowed here

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yukky [#13]

my tiktok shop pro club t shirts 💔

Check out Shein and AliExpress. They are the same stuff

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Aayan
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jawn [#12]

tiktok is currently the most dominant cultural force on the internet, it kinda is that deep

but what's to say they can't do the same thing on reels? or any other equivalent service. That's what I don't get

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Gemiknight [#11]

not really, although the only argument i've heard from people against the ban is that people/businesses who mainly used tiktok to advertise would have to switch to other apps.

"Artists" don't put food on the table.
I had seen a lot of protests from these guys, I find this miserable, bc there is many other things that they could protest in this topic, but they only protest in the part that will effect their money.

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No. YT shorts, and reels are better. YT is probably right as reels are filled with unhinged kids.

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valkin
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not at all, anyone who says tiktok isnt the best platform is coping though

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merciless-pity8989-89
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I wanted to buy a new headset with the tiktok discount:(

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i didnt care lol

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Cookierookie577
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no not really, it'll probably be back in a month or so, crazy overreaction

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yeah my life is over, im on rednote rn tho tryna see some chuzz

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Aayan [#17]

but what's to say they can't do the same thing on reels? or any other equivalent service. That's what I don't get

that's usually how that culture dies, snap culture started dying when instagram introduced stories

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I started getting use to the app late 2022. oh well back to reels

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FrenchToast [#14]

also the censorship part, and livelihoods are being affected.

it’s more like the principle of the whole thing rather than the actual app.

censorship? this ain't what censorship is 😭

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Aayan [#17]

but what's to say they can't do the same thing on reels? or any other equivalent service. That's what I don't get

the whole point of it was for them to get rid of tiktok so meta becomes more used bcos the senators invested alot in meta. its basically make the rich richer bcos they have the power to control what the ppl use. theyve already banned books bcos it made ppl educated on topics that make america look bad and now a massive social media platform full of education and all types communities bcos 9 of them want more money.

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Prasinos [#18]

"Artists" don't put food on the table.
I had seen a lot of protests from these guys, I find this miserable, bc there is many other things that they could protest in this topic, but they only protest in the part that will effect their money.

prasinos im starting to wonder if ur just really good at baiting or ur really fucking stupid

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uwukitten [#27]

censorship? this ain't what censorship is 😭

definition of censorship(pertaining to the internet in this case)

may restrict access to materials that are already published such as access to certain websites, search engines, or other online content etc

this is literally part of censorship

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shrike- [#2]

just use ig reels or yt shorts, it’s not really that deep

considering how offended people get about stuff they see on twitter, i wouldnt recommend IG reels at all

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jawn [#25]

that's usually how that culture dies, snap culture started dying when instagram introduced stories

maybe it's because I've never really used tiktok but I really don't see how the same stuff can't continue on instagram, 'killing culture' seems like a huge overreaction to me

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FrenchToast [#30]

definition of censorship(pertaining to the internet in this case)

may restrict access to materials that are already published such as access to certain websites, search engines, or other online content etc

this is literally part of censorship

the ban is largely because tiktok is suspected of gathering data and giving it to china, censorship is if it was getting banned because it had media that the government didn't want you to see

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Aayan [#32]

maybe it's because I've never really used tiktok but I really don't see how the same stuff can't continue on instagram, 'killing culture' seems like a huge overreaction to me

i mean it's not like a deliberate silencing of tiktok culture in particular, i'm kinda talking about the aftereffects, internet will change forever because of it

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malT-T [#29]

prasinos im starting to wonder if ur just really good at baiting or ur really fucking stupid

Both, but really, I hadn't seen anyone from tiktok protest about this topic that isn't "This is a attack to art, destroying artists live".
And not "America is destroying a company bc they hadn't full control of it and want to control us".

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suppressor
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algo on tt is unmatched, american engineers cant do the same. it definitely is a big deal - shit, even rednote is better than shorts and reels lol

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I would speak but when I made a post about it and this bill it got taken down for politics...soooo

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Prasinos [#35]

Both, but really, I hadn't seen anyone from tiktok protest about this topic that isn't "This is a attack to art, destroying artists live".
And not "America is destroying a company bc they hadn't full control of it and want to control us".

its both bro and ive seen discourse on both. artists do put food on the table, the world needs artists and art. tiktok enabled the creation of it by providing an income source to artists. the banning of tiktok in america is an undoubtedly huge hit to artists. also people are allowed to protest when their income and way of life is taken away.

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#37]

I would speak but when I made a post about it and this bill it got taken down for politics...soooo

yeah I'm tryna avoid the whole political aspect of it (see #15)
but if someone starts a political shitshow in the comments I might be cooked

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grisx23 [#19]

No. YT shorts, and reels are better. YT is probably right as reels are filled with unhinged kids.

yt shorts are horrendous

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Aayan [#39]

yeah I'm tryna avoid the whole political aspect of it (see #15)
but if someone starts a political shitshow in the comments I might be cooked

Fuck I typed out a whole response and then realized it was way too political

anyways

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#TECWIN #BUYTHETECBUNDLE

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For me I like the ban because it protects our information and also I’m sick of all the brain rot and
Dumb shit that app has produced. The reason ppl are making sound controversial is because they believe the government has just swept away all the “TikTok Creators” job which part is true but I think if those creators are really so entertaining and talented then they should have no problem doing the same content in a different platform YouTube Shorts/Reels

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uwukitten [#33]

the ban is largely because tiktok is suspected of gathering data and giving it to china, censorship is if it was getting banned because it had media that the government didn't want you to see

real ones know the ban was lobbied for by american social media companies eg. meta to take down the competition, and as a way to keep the selling of data within the american ecosystem rather than chinese or international

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uwukitten [#33]

the ban is largely because tiktok is suspected of gathering data and giving it to china, censorship is if it was getting banned because it had media that the government didn't want you to see

bro how stupid can u be, no the ban isn't because tiktok is suspected of selling data its because tech billionares wanted ByteDance to sell to a US company. They can't create competition so they buy it off, but this time it didn't work. They've done this plenty before BYD cars, xiaomi phones etc. etc. they lit have no ground or evidence against it

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it will be back in less than two months
i've been there

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lovekylin
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I've never seen so many Americans on Rednote in my life, and the news says there are 10 million new registered users, oh my God.

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Danny
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It sucks. I really liked tiktok and IG Reels always has disgusting comment sections and gore videos

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bees
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It would be great if we could collectively stop consuming short-form content that's terrible for our brains and also ultimately controlled by shitty billionaires, but that probably won't happen. Dead internet here we come.

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Aayan
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suppressor [#36]

algo on tt is unmatched, american engineers cant do the same. it definitely is a big deal - shit, even rednote is better than shorts and reels lol

idk what tiktok had because i never use it, but sometimes i get some cool stuff like this https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEVSFuGvA7U

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Ddoggy [#42]

For me I like the ban because it protects our information and also I’m sick of all the brain rot and
Dumb shit that app has produced. The reason ppl are making sound controversial is because they believe the government has just swept away all the “TikTok Creators” job which part is true but I think if those creators are really so entertaining and talented then they should have no problem doing the same content in a different platform YouTube Shorts/Reels

well instagram doesnt pay its users so its just yt

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LocoMonteiro [#31]

considering how offended people get about stuff they see on twitter, i wouldnt recommend IG reels at all

1 more reason to go on ig reels then

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31Raven [#51]

1 more reason to go on ig reels then

ive been using it for more than 1 year so i would agree

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