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Why? Just, why?

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#1
TheLoque

Why are people still playing Reyna, Clove, and Sage in comp? Any other agents would be better, just learn how to play other agents, please....

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Taruuu1
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lmao Reyna and Clove are the 2 best agents for ranked

they have independent kits and can get kills on their own without the reliance on teammates

Sage is ass

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31Raven
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the answer is literally just selfishness. they dont care abt their teammates, so they pick agents that benefit them

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kk85
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Sage mommies

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Taruuu1
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31Raven [#3]

the answer is literally just selfishness. they dont care abt their teammates, so they pick agents that benefit them

because teammates are extremely unreliable in ranked and its objectively better to play an independent and selfish agent rather than trying to play around 4 other boosted gorillas

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finnwithtwons
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why are people playing the agent with a 54% winrate in ranked?? wtf is happening? i dont understand these people that dont pick the meta agents in their platinum ranked games that have a sub 45% winrate and are awful to solocarry on....................

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31Raven [#3]

the answer is literally just selfishness. they dont care abt their teammates, so they pick agents that benefit them

why shhould i care about my shit teammates lmfao you wont climb if ur a team player

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busdriver
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reyna is just for pugging but a good reyna is really hard to deal with because of her blind and dismiss. Clove is useful for fast hits and her decay is super strong as well although her as a pure smokes player isnt the strongest. sage isnt the best sentinel but her slows are good for stalling and her wall is very useful

#9
H3ENnZ
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Reyna and clove are alright, its just ppl dont play them to their max.

Sage is straight dogshit (except for split)

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31Raven
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chrlxz [#7]

why shhould i care about my shit teammates lmfao you wont climb if ur a team player

theres a reason why 3+ duelist teams lose

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nobody___100
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Taruuu1 [#2]

lmao Reyna and Clove are the 2 best agents for ranked

they have independent kits and can get kills on their own without the reliance on teammates

Sage is ass

downvoted for truth

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i11matic
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Clove is the best ranked agent, r u stupid?

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Prancer
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31Raven [#10]

theres a reason why 3+ duelist teams lose

ive never lost a game when my team plays 5 duelist, maybe 3 is just a bad number

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jixk
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clove,reyna are the best agents in the ranked

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31Raven
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Prancer [#13]

ive never lost a game when my team plays 5 duelist, maybe 3 is just a bad number

3+ includes 5 btw

#16
bees
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Clove and Sage are literally two of the top 5 in ranked by winrate

You gotta understand, what's good in coordinated play =/= what's good in ranked

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unknown_trash
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I disagree. I don't play these agents because I think ranked is about enjoying the game how I like to play it, but people can play whatever they want as long as they do fine. I used to hate instalockers* but I've come to accept them because I hate playing duelist.

#18
Froggy0_0
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clove is the best ranked agent

#19
GodAwfulGod
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bees [#16]

Clove and Sage are literally two of the top 5 in ranked by winrate

You gotta understand, what's good in coordinated play =/= what's good in ranked

Sage is only there because of the amount of people who play the agent not because she's good. Like her kit is just deadlocks but worse.

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GodAwfulGod [#19]

Sage is only there because of the amount of people who play the agent not because she's good. Like her kit is just deadlocks but worse.

No, I'm talking about non-mirror winrate. Check vstats.gg. She is 4th both in asc+ and immo+ (rad alone is kinda small sample size)

#21
cloudberry
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bees [#20]

No, I'm talking about non-mirror winrate. Check vstats.gg. She is 4th both in asc+ and immo+ (rad alone is kinda small sample size)

Asdhfgiresrjuithjotrer of course the lowest by far is Harbor

Actually, Omen Astra Harbor are all bottom 4
Wait literally every controller other than Clove is bottom 8 what the hell

:(

#22
Jezy
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Some of my best performances have been on sage and Reyna sad I quit the game and donated my PC to a homie bro I could ever see clove 🫡 (Dropped 40 or smth sage on haven various 30s on split Reyna couple 30s on ascent ) very early episodes unsure if I can see history dropped my pb on jett same act

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cloudberry [#21]

Asdhfgiresrjuithjotrer of course the lowest by far is Harbor

Actually, Omen Astra Harbor are all bottom 4
Wait literally every controller other than Clove is bottom 8 what the hell

:(

I know. It's very sad. Brim used to be up there around Phoenix/Sage before Clove came out.

My theory is that most people who are confident in their mechanics simply play Clove, and so there's an overrepresentation of controller mains on the other agents who are just too scared to take fights and end up in really bad late round scenarios.

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all three agents have a +50% wr in ranked

and for ppl saying sage is bad, if you're playing against a team which mostly rushes, like in ranked, sage is the best sentinel you could ask for. and in attack if you're mostly rushing, her postplant is just as strong, this doesnt just apply to low elo

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31Raven [#15]

3+ includes 5 btw

5 works though so 3+ is incorrect

#26
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31Raven [#10]

theres a reason why 3+ duelist teams lose

And also why Clove is so successful in ranked

#27
cloudberry
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AkameSKJ [#24]

all three agents have a +50% wr in ranked

and for ppl saying sage is bad, if you're playing against a team which mostly rushes, like in ranked, sage is the best sentinel you could ask for. and in attack if you're mostly rushing, her postplant is just as strong, this doesnt just apply to low elo

But Deadlock is better at that

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Prasinos
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31Raven [#3]

the answer is literally just selfishness. they dont care abt their teammates, so they pick agents that benefit them

As a Sova/smoker main. "Benefit" teammates its hard and don't pay off, u have their back but who have yours?

If u aren't in a duo, no one will play for you, so just pick a agent that benefits you like a Reyna or Jett, and u good.

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Taruuu1 [#2]

lmao Reyna and Clove are the 2 best agents for ranked

they have independent kits and can get kills on their own without the reliance on teammates

Sage is ass

Oh yeah and this game is about solo-carry, and all that Reyna instalockers with combined IQ of 13.5 are winning the games for me

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Taruuu1
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w1atrak [#29]

Oh yeah and this game is about solo-carry, and all that Reyna instalockers with combined IQ of 13.5 are winning the games for me

just because some people that play Reyna are ass doesn't mean shes a bad agent

#31
w1atrak
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Taruuu1 [#30]

just because some people that play Reyna are ass doesn't mean shes a bad agent

Anyway this is not how I want VALORANT to look like

#32
229fn
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Taruuu1 [#30]

just because some people that play Reyna are ass doesn't mean shes a bad agent

yeah but you can't midfrag on reyna, either you're on pi watch and going 3/14 or you're on pi watch going 31/4

#33
jawn
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because everyone in ranked is dogshit, i ain't relying on bums to win my games

#34
cloudberry
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Taruuu1 [#30]

just because some people that play Reyna are ass doesn't mean shes a bad agent

Reyna is the worst agent in the entire game and I wish she didn't exist. She doesn't hecking do anything

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Taruuu1
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cloudberry [#34]

Reyna is the worst agent in the entire game and I wish she didn't exist. She doesn't hecking do anything

shes the best agent for ranked

Reyna does not rely on teammates, she has a simple kit that is easy to get value out of and you can get kills without having to entry and get baited by ur team

Clove and Reyna are 2 of the highest winrate agents in the game

the reality of ranked is that you cannot rely on teammates and u have to carry if u want to win and improve

if you want to play team based agents that subsequently have low winrates go ahead but ur only making it harder for yourself

the people that are hardstuck are the same people that expect ranked teammates to give VCT comms and have VCT level site executes as well as overthink ranked and expect everything to go perfectly

just play Reyna Jett or Clove and tap heads

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