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emea inferiority complex

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#1
gamergirl

the yearly pre-masters 1 cope is coming around since emea has never won the first international masters </3

incoming "they had more prac than us" "fluke" "qualifiers too short"

emea still has contenders too, but the inferiority complex is so staggering that even when you have favorites to win like gm8 heretics kc, you have emea fans pre-coping incase of loss

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emea hasn't won in like years, they have to cope somehow

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I'm pretty sure lockin is a masters also if it doesn't count how come na always win it and then never do anything else for the rest of the year

#4
gamergirl
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as opposed to emea who never win it and also never do anything else for the rest of the year like 2024

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Galactc
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That was just one year and valorant has not existed for long enough to make conclusions in general if I'm honest

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gamergirl
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idek wym tho bc americas has more champs wins than emea too

#9
Galactc
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Americas and again only 1 more win out of the 4 years val has existed also the best team of the year seems to never win champs for some reason at least in my opinion

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Azzelastia
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EG won Champs :)

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Galactc
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2 more but my point about it being too early for comparisons still stands

#19
catNmouse
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they don’t win champs because they’re either burnt out and/or other teams are more prepared

#13
aaaa420
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americas is 2 whole different independent scenes with their own massive talent pools combined in to 1 league,obviously the americas league will be more competitive,nobody was unironically saying "americas has more trophies than emea" as a argument pre franchising and absolutely nothing has changed expect that the 2 regions are now combined for convenience
and money lol

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tiny little emea: https://www.vlr.gg/vcl-2024/?region=171

massive americas: https://www.vlr.gg/vcl-2024/?region=174

emea has a larger playerbase, spans three continents, has more countries, more teams, 10x the tier 2 scene but somehow this cope is believable lmfaoooo

#27
aaaa420
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i dont wanna argue about this same shit for the 100th time on here,obviously emea has a larger playerbase with 2x the americas population,how come americans say "we dont care about soccer" but u have 14m soccer players yet suck compared to the other sports u play,most americans would use the exact same "cope" that its because basketball and american football suck all the talent and it doesnt have the same pull for competition and culture,well thats the case with most of eu but replace american football and basketball with cs

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its not because basketball and football is bigger, its because going pro in the us means nothing for soccer, whereas in valorant the difference between emea and americas in valorant isnt there, infact emea has better t2

just loud and wrong, emea is the objectively richer t2, bigger region, more teams, more players

the cs argument is cool if you dont understand that americas just has less gamers

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lol but my point still stands,do u think that america would still be bad soccer if it overtook american football as the most popular sport,and "emea" isnt a unified country with the same interest like the us,only a handful of countries have any sort of national interest for this game at all over cs,a competitive scene locally and interest in the game is more important in developing talent than just a lot of players,why do u think some random countries like denmark are so dominant in cs despite having less people than a regular us city,US had the biggest cs playerbase by a single country like 7 years ago btw so idk what ur saying about "less gamers"

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people gotta learn to admit when they're wrong lol

emea is objectively a bigger region in every aspect, yet has less champions wins. that is inarguable, and you're a retard trying to justify it with weird Comparisions to other sports lol, there is 9.4 million youth football players in europe compared to 5 million in all of concaf, so wrong again

just idiocy fishing for upvotes, it wont make what you say true lmfao

all of europe alone has a population of 800 million, then you add MENA lmfaooooooo

#33
Itsover
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No cis league=EU bots can't win shit on their own. If there was a cis league americas would have 0 trophies

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1243
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lock in is NOT a masters lil bro, does it say masters sao paulo??? istg
it's a different event

#10
Azzelastia
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You are wrong and a retard.

#8
cloudberry
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Your logic is flawed. If LOCK//IN wasn't a Masters, then Tokyo would be the first Masters of the year, but FNATIC also won that anyway

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yes, 2023 had only one masters event which fnatic won, sao paulo was not a masters by definition and it wasn't an event where teams had to qualify on merit, its not a fluke or anything which some people say, but its NOT A MASTERS
you are correct though

#14
cloudberry
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You're fighting your demons, man. I'm not arguing whether or not it IS a Masters event or not; I'm saying that it quite literally does not matter for this argument

#17
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yes, i said you're correct. it's just a lot of people think lock in = masters which is just wrong

#16
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sadly 2023 had no first masters just a showcase event for franchising then the event that is equivalent to masters 2 and champions

#21
cloudberry
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IF there's only one Masters event in the year it's not gonna be thought of Masters 2, it's gonna be Masters 1. Please try a different bait gimmick, this one's very tedious to argue

#24
gamergirl
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masters 1 is the april/march event, idk why i have to explain this to a retard but alguds

#25
gamergirl
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+cope

#30
cloudberry
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Just had to throw that in lmao

#15
Aayan
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why must we always discredit each others achievements

#20
gamergirl
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https://www.vlr.gg/432764/1st-masters

wrong thread lil bro

#22
Aayan
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it applies here too, seeing the comments

I've already gone over this so I'll keep it brief
yeah, LOCK//IN isn't technically a masters event if you only look at the marketing
but single elim + being an invitational isn't enough to make it worth less than a masters

#23
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im not discrediting anyones win lol im asking why is there already pre-cope, it doesnt apply sadly go find another troll

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