That comp by itself isn't very good on defense and relies more on aggro peaking of chamber to get early round advantage as it won't be good on retakes as well and alfajer particularly wasn't having a god game to make that chamber use 100%.
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Fnc didn't choke haven
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they had a double senti retake comp which managed to get 9 rounds on attack, and then they managed to not adapt to TH defaulting except for on an eco where TH ran out of time. They played way too slow for the comp they were running, which relied heavily on their mechanical skill with the chamber and yoru being able to play more agro. Plus the fact that when they were in retakes they always put themselves in disadvantages by letting TH take way more space than they needed to. Like on the second pistol they four man flanked yet only boaster went short, leaving him to have to walk and not actually be capable of fully taking the space by himself until his team took raw gunfights where they were disadvantaged.
FNC did choke on Haven, maybe Icebox and Ascent were good from TH, but the momentum and theoretical compositional strats should have been enough to at least get overtime.
I have to agree as well as disagree cause though other things can be right, that is not a retake comp, you just don't have enough good util to retake, no omen so no paranoia. Yoru will have to use flashes to go aggro and take space so not much kit would be left, a chamber and vyse aren't much use on retake except for vyse ult and vyse flash that isnt also the most reliable thing for retakes, ur second senti is a chamber so ur sentinels setup will already be spread thin throughout the map since it's a triple site map and ur chamber may have to go a lot of solo aggro using his tp and that part u got right, they played actually slow to it and a part of it is alfa not being able to frag well. Besides that haven being 3 site map leads u to burn out a lot of sova solo initator util and u will not have ur utils for retake. Also I underestimated ur ball knowledge, u aren't an avg vlr user, 80% of the people here don't know actual shit abt the game and their sole thing is ohh he went double negative surely this guy is the problem
sova astra yoru is for flood retake. chamber was on deep A line every round until he was pushed off and they had vyse towards c. The way the comp is meant to play is sort of a 1-3-1 esque with fast rotates on the weaker parts, but also hard stall on the other parts of the map. while I understand your point about not having a paranoia, the way FNC play make it better for them to use astra. Her stall is much more effective on the chokepoints, along with her smokes being bigger and hard to clear if they were to be placed on site in order to hold for a flood. FNC played the comp poorly because the theory wasn't crafted for how fast paced TH were playing, that is bad on FNC's part when they have play TH multiple times, on haven, with the exact same composition. They never switched up their setups. They never went for full agro plays. They saved way too much and gave the momentum up way too freely. As much as I don't want to say it, when boaster is winning a 1v3, that should be the moment where the map should be over. This might have just come down to inexperience with the comp on the map, but they know their agents, and all of them should be good enough to know when to shift their methodologies.
Oh then u r right in that aspect , it's a flood retake setup , what I meant to say is u can't play it normally like other comps where if a team rushes u, u withdraw back and chill , waiting for ur team mates to get there and then start the retake. The flood retake on A heavily also depends on chamber keeping the A line and stalling for as long as possible which alfajer couldn't do tbh since he wasn't playing the best. Their theory can't definitely be so much since it's a new comp
Yeah, they also just did NOT adapt their setups properly at all. If you watch the vod back for their defense, they only had alfa switch up from A 3 times, 2 of which were in the last 2 rounds of regulation and the other being an eco, and all of which were only going towards b. They also only tried putting chron's setup on a on the last round, where TH hard read the setup after being stalled for longer and eventually just ended b. The entire plan of TH revolved around the a default, yet FNC never took any space on C. In hindsight, they should have tried to get alfa down on a deep C line with a trip garage with kajaak on b, and then stack shit towards a. They just took way too long into the half to adapt and it cost them dearly, though that makes sense due to it being a new comp. Like I was actually so mad at them for NEVER having alfa on C ONCE.
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