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fade vs sova

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#1
baroque

in pro play, we've come to (or at least i) associate sova players as the designated odin players, especially on maps like ascent.

how come more fade players don't play odin then? they're util is basically the same

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swerdog
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their util isnt the same tho, a bit hard to swing after a dog when ur carrying an odin

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jawn
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fade maps aren't usually spammable

#4
H3ENnZ
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Cant really spam on bind

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baroque
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swerdog [#2]

their util isnt the same tho, a bit hard to swing after a dog when ur carrying an odin

r u swinging after a drone though? besides, you can throw the haunt and then drop it with e and then swing afterwards

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cloudberry
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Because Lotus isn't in rotation

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tokuchi_toua
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The range of the eye vs the dart is very different. Bouncing the dart helps a lot in getting it into tricky areas from far. Like in Ascent mid, it is quite difficult sending the eye from tiles to outside of B Main. The dog and drone are too different too as drone can spot people through the bars of B main while dog needs to go through the entry point

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baroque [#5]

r u swinging after a drone though? besides, you can throw the haunt and then drop it with e and then swing afterwards

no u aren't swinging after a drone, thats the point.....

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jawn [#3]

fade maps aren't usually spammable

lotus is really good for odin tho

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jawn
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MrBlooBloom [#9]

lotus is really good for odin tho

i mean yeah, it is used pretty frequently

#11
TM06Nick
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MrBlooBloom [#9]

lotus is really good for odin tho

yeah but it tends to be the not fade running it

#12
isumorw
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fade is just the more fun character
wish fade had more buffs
sova is the most op
but not the most fun

#13
Mitochondrial
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isumorw [#12]

fade is just the more fun character
wish fade had more buffs
sova is the most op
but not the most fun

Stop yapping sova is hella fun when you can actually plsy him i mean i have 900+ games on him so trust me he aint boring to play

#14
c00b
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Fade is just Sova for duelist players

#15
Vaaero
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MrBlooBloom [#9]

lotus is really good for odin tho

The fade doesn't use the Odin. It's often the controller spamming from tree

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Vaaero
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The fade eye is a lot easier to destroy, predict, and deal with then the recon bolt and you often can't get it into similar positions to spam with Odin.

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idkmanwth
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swerdog [#2]

their util isnt the same tho, a bit hard to swing after a dog when ur carrying an odin

isnt that skye?? fade doesnt have a dawg

#18
trmnl
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idkmanwth [#17]

isnt that skye?? fade doesnt have a dawg

as a shit player I suggest leaving the thread.

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idkmanwth
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trmnl [#18]

as a shit player I suggest leaving the thread.

is prowler a dog? wait im genuinely asking (and confused)

#20
Divine_Thunder
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idkmanwth [#17]

isnt that skye?? fade doesnt have a dawg

what

#21
trikecycle
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Vaaero [#15]

The fade doesn't use the Odin. It's often the controller spamming from tree

It’s cause that’s the best spam spot and fade is better in other areas (eye c mound, prowler b main/mound)

#22
Dallyn
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ztoL would disagree with you

#23
idkmanwth
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Divine_Thunder [#20]

what

what what

#24
BruteAXE
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idkmanwth [#19]

is prowler a dog? wait im genuinely asking (and confused)

People call it a dog but actually its cat
Anyways its cute looking

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Divine_Thunder
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idkmanwth [#23]

what what

what what what

#26
LowGun
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Sova has a higher skill ceiling imo

#27
bees
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Mitochondrial [#13]

Stop yapping sova is hella fun when you can actually plsy him i mean i have 900+ games on him so trust me he aint boring to play

Valid for you but not everyone enjoys sitting in the backline and spamming enemies who can't see you

#28
Mkael_J_Kabo0s3
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Sova's util is much easier to use and more predictable. Swinging or spamming after a drone or a dart is faster and easier on sova than it is on fade. Fade's eyes also take longer to activate on average as well

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BoF7ooM
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BruteAXE [#24]

People call it a dog but actually its cat
Anyways its cute looking

That actually makes a lotta sense for it to be a cat because Fade is turkish (like cNed)

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Vaaero
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LowGun [#26]

Sova has a higher skill ceiling imo

Lineups don't count as skill

#31
idkmanwth
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BruteAXE [#24]

People call it a dog but actually its cat
Anyways its cute looking

see i knew my thoughts werent wrong

#32
dvm4r28
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Divine_Thunder [#25]

what what what

what what what what

#33
bilim
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isumorw [#12]

fade is just the more fun character
wish fade had more buffs
sova is the most op
but not the most fun

playing fade is really fun. I love when I her throw recon, then “mark three” or “mark two”. I feel superior when that happens.

#34
LowGun
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Vaaero [#30]

Lineups don't count as skill

Never counted that anyways. Still I stick to my statement.

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isumorw
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Mitochondrial [#13]

Stop yapping sova is hella fun when you can actually plsy him i mean i have 900+ games on him so trust me he aint boring to play

maybe for you getting more kills is fun
but i feel more fun playing fade if that makes sense

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baroque
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swerdog [#8]

no u aren't swinging after a drone, thats the point.....

what i don't understand

if my argument is that sova and fade should both use the odin, then you saying it's hard to swing after a dog doesn't explain why sovas play odin because it's hard to swing off their util too??

don't understand why i am getting downvoted

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Vaaero
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baroque [#36]

what i don't understand

if my argument is that sova and fade should both use the odin, then you saying it's hard to swing after a dog doesn't explain why sovas play odin because it's hard to swing off their util too??

don't understand why i am getting downvoted

Well with sova you can just spam through the wall once the drone reveals, but that is not possible with fade prowlers

#38
baroque
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Vaaero [#37]

Well with sova you can just spam through the wall once the drone reveals, but that is not possible with fade prowlers

ok i see that

again though i don't understand the downvotes bc #2 and #8 don't actually provide an argument for or against the point i am contending???

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AKIRA1988
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baroque [#36]

what i don't understand

if my argument is that sova and fade should both use the odin, then you saying it's hard to swing after a dog doesn't explain why sovas play odin because it's hard to swing off their util too??

don't understand why i am getting downvoted

What does a drone tag do? It reveals a player. A dog blinds the player and deafens them. Sova doesnt need to swing off of drone info he can odin spam off of drone info, fade cant really do that.

Also i think reveals are easier to get scans with due to bounces allowing for out of map darts and bounces. I also think fade is played on less spam dependent map, because old maps that are spammy werent really designed with her haunts in mind + teams alr developed sova playbooks by the time she came out there.

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Abcdefg
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baroque [#38]

ok i see that

again though i don't understand the downvotes bc #2 and #8 don't actually provide an argument for or against the point i am contending???

you don't really swing with sova, but with fade you need to capitalize after your dog gets them

#41
baroque
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Abcdefg [#40]

you don't really swing with sova, but with fade you need to capitalize after your dog gets them

oh ok i guess i sorta see it now

i thought less fade players do that now though after the prowler re equip gun speed got nerfed

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