What was the point of the Omen nerf
hes a good agent (not broken) but its not like his one ways were breaking the game to the point he needed a nerf
its also funny they nerfed Omen before Neon
Pixalfv [#3]how was he broken lol
Best flash in the game + one of the best repositioning tools + smokes that could one way almost anything put him well above most controllers
4rrowlol [#4]Best flash in the game + one of the best repositioning tools + smokes that could one way almost anything put him well above most controllers
thats not broken tho lol thats just really good
broken is like prime chamber, pre nerf neon, maybe pre nerf cypher with old sunset
Clove is better for ranked
Pixalfv [#5]thats not broken tho lol thats just really good
broken is like prime chamber, pre nerf neon, maybe pre nerf cypher with old sunset
Clove is better for ranked
he needed a nerf.
The only controller who has the perfect balance of playmaking and support at the controller role, omen has the most versatile play style range of any agent in the game and he's not the Hardest agent to pick up in the controller role especially considering the easier controllers come with severe drawbacks to their smoking capabilities (brim doesn't have rechargeable smokes, the rest of clove's kit isn't that versatile) and the other more complex controllers don't offer much by the way of individual playmaking outside of lurks (u can't capitalize of ur own astra util, viper is viper and harbour is walls, walls and more walls with imo the worst versatility in the game)
Omen on the other hand is the only agent who can play of his own ulti consistently and not fall of on the support front, oh and having the best nearsight in the game doesn't hurt
Pixalfv [#5]thats not broken tho lol thats just really good
broken is like prime chamber, pre nerf neon, maybe pre nerf cypher with old sunset
Clove is better for ranked
Try to retake A on haven when the enemy omen keep using a one way on ct
lyycell [#11]it is to get clove into the meta maybe
Clove is literally a top 3 agent hows she not in the meta
Pixalfv [#15]hes the 3rd lowest win rate agent in ranked
riot prioritizes pro scene balancing over ranked
just look at azir in league
Pixalfv [#15]hes the 3rd lowest win rate agent in ranked
no one was even using those one ways in ranked
diswaco [#16]riot prioritizes pro scene balancing over ranked
just look at azir in league
if they care so much about balancing agents and having a diverse meta they should buff viper harbor and skye
Pixalfv [#18]if they care so much about balancing agents and having a diverse meta they should buff viper harbor and skye
out of those only skye needs a buff imo.
viper has her place in the meta and harbor is criminally underrated.
Pixalfv [#18]if they care so much about balancing agents and having a diverse meta they should buff viper harbor and skye
? are you retarded
Pixalfv [#15]hes the 3rd lowest win rate agent in ranked
yes but in the upper half of ranked (like gold+) omen has much higher winrate
the opposite is true for sage for example, where sage has actually incredible winrate in low elo
Pixalfv [#18]if they care so much about balancing agents and having a diverse meta they should buff viper harbor and skye
skye yes
viper is weaker than before but still almost irreplaceable in her niche
harbor is fine as is IMO teams just are afraid to use him
He got nerfed due to high pick-rate in pro scene. Kinda sucks that his one-ways (the key personality trait of his smokes) got nerfed. 5-star Astra will eventually overtake some of these picks on maps like Pearl and Abyss. Same thing happened to Viper who was viable on nearly every map in the pool at her prime.
diswaco [#22]skye yes
viper is weaker than before but still almost irreplaceable in her niche
harbor is fine as is IMO teams just are afraid to use him
no one plays viper in ranked. even when breeze was in the map pool the last time, people were locking other controllers
Pixalfv [#18]if they care so much about balancing agents and having a diverse meta they should buff viper harbor and skye
Skye got nerfed because she made the meta not diverse fym
Pixalfv [#14]Clove is literally a top 3 agent hows she not in the meta
Ranked winrate doesn't mean shit. Sage, Deadlock, and Phoenix are regularly near the top, even in immo, but do you really think those three are the best agents in their class?
uwukitten [#24]no one plays viper in ranked. even when breeze was in the map pool the last time, people were locking other controllers
read #16 we're not talking about ranked
number1_Demon1_fan [#12]Try to retake A on haven when the enemy omen keep using a one way on ct
you just gotta push before that one way goes up? Omen needs to wait 15 seconds to throw that 3rd smoke
composthe [#29]you just gotta push before that one way goes up? Omen needs to wait 15 seconds to throw that 3rd smoke
Good idea ! A site take takes around 10-15s. Wich leaves the omen smoke 15 to regenerate, let’s just flood in before waiting for any teammates or utility.
Like, it does not work. You litteraly have to win gunfights in that condition, you can’t counterstrat it.
number1_Demon1_fan [#30]Good idea ! A site take takes around 10-15s. Wich leaves the omen smoke 15 to regenerate, let’s just flood in before waiting for any teammates or utility.
Like, it does not work. You litteraly have to win gunfights in that condition, you can’t counterstrat it.
thats a team issue if your teammates take too long to rotate that you arent ready to retake 15 seconds after the CT smoke disappears
number1_Demon1_fan [#12]Try to retake A on haven when the enemy omen keep using a one way on ct
you just use utility to get through it. like any other piece of utility in valorant, it is traded with other utility to nullify it.
what are you talking about
composthe [#31]thats a team issue if your teammates take too long to rotate that you arent ready to retake 15 seconds after the CT smoke disappears
my point is litteraly proven, because having good teammte have the same chance of going against omen ° secondary smokes like clove omen and clove smoke first and omen can just one-way until bomb goes off
finnwithtwons [#32]you just use utility to get through it. like any other piece of utility in valorant, it is traded with other utility to nullify it.
what are you talking about
I'm a controller main, I need to pray to god to have teammates that know how to flash, and it's still an extemely hard spot to get out of, someone can play hell, short and right cubby. 3 people looking at you point blank when you use a flash and still kill you is not funny. It was broken.
number1_Demon1_fan [#33]my point is litteraly proven, because having good teammte have the same chance of going against omen ° secondary smokes like clove omen and clove smoke first and omen can just one-way until bomb goes off
its ranked bro you arent playing against double smoke 95% of the matches.
people will always play double or even triple duelist