I have been working on a rating for duelists to determine whether a duelist is actually good or actually bad using some stats. So reply with some duelists that is considered bad or a fraud and I will put the rating through them. (The rating is from a scale from 0-1, e.g. Aspas at champs was rated 0.745)
*Note: This rating is in its early stages so its not perfect yet. I am using this to figure out which players to test out and see how it goes
Azzelastia [#6]Something - biggest baiter of all time
Miniboo
Cn0d (retired, working at mcdonalds)
Zmkkjj - fluke
Demon1 💀💀
Azzelastia [#6]Something - biggest baiter of all time
Miniboo
Cn0d (retired, working at mcdonalds)
Zmkkjj - fluke
I assume you want radiant asia invitational for ZmjjKK and something but not all the stats on that are available and I am not manually doing the stats unless you want me to do champs which I can do
Boketto [#13]At champs?
Yeah sure why not, considering how I see lots of people saying EDG fluked it
Azzelastia [#6]Something - biggest baiter of all time
Miniboo
Cn0d (retired, working at mcdonalds)
Zmkkjj - fluke
cNed got 0.677 at champs
Azzelastia [#6]Something - biggest baiter of all time
Miniboo
Cn0d (retired, working at mcdonalds)
Zmkkjj - fluke
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Aayan [#4]
Derke
Oh wait I didn't read that this was for 'frauds' only
Derke is most definitely not a fraud
I still wanna see his rating though
geospliced [#14]Yeah sure why not, considering how I see lots of people saying EDG fluked it
0.773 at champs
Aayan [#17]Oh wait I didn't read that this was for 'frauds' only
Derke is most definitely not a fraudI still wanna see his rating though
Yep
Azzelastia [#6]Something - biggest baiter of all time
Miniboo
Cn0d (retired, working at mcdonalds)
Zmkkjj - fluke
MiniBoo is 0.693 at champs
Boketto [#11]Yo it broke my system somehow got over 1 at a rating of 1.026
should have been higher, this system is rigged
localkoolkid [#22]should have been higher, this system is rigged
I just started this project its not perfect yet
Boketto [#23]I just started this project its not perfect yet
yo im ngl, I saw him like 0.35 higher then KangKang and realized this system was valid, u good bro
Compact665 [#25]meiy (the goat but i wanna know the stat in radiant asia invitational)
Radiant Asia Invitational has incomplete stats so I can't really do it unless I record the stats manually which takes too long if you can find a website that does have the stats then you can share it with me
localkoolkid [#26]yo im ngl, I saw him like 0.35 higher then KangKang and realized this system was valid, u good bro
thank you :)
brams6661 [#29]icy in shanghai
0.764 although Masters Shanghai had incomplete stats so I had to estimate some stats so not entirely accurate
geospliced [#14]Yeah sure why not, considering how I see lots of people saying EDG fluked it
The only fluke Champs winners are ac0nd, EDG were legit.
Patoow14 [#36]you calling aspas a fraud duelist?
No Im using Aspas as an example of a rating on the scale rather an example of a fraud duelist
ash_knuckles [#40]what variables are you considering?
KD, KPR, FEPR (First Engagements Per Round), FEWR (First Engagement Win Rate), HS%, KAST and FECR (First Engagement Conversion Rate). I also have KIPR (Kill Impact Per Round) but that I have to do manually and takes too long so I dont take that into account most of the time but I am working on some kind of data scraper maybe that could do it automatally?. All these stats are weighted differently and I am currently experimenting with it. I know there is probably a lot more other factors to consider and I am working on it but I dont think it will ever be perfect
OCARINA [#38]Icy... I still think he's so bad as a duelist
He shoot satchels sometimes xD seems funny for me
0.609 at champs
Azzelastia [#6]Something - biggest baiter of all time
Miniboo
Cn0d (retired, working at mcdonalds)
Zmkkjj - fluke
MiniBoo is a top tier duelist people just hate for no reason watch his 2025 season
Boketto [#41]KD, KPR, FEPR (First Engagements Per Round), FEWR (First Engagement Win Rate), HS%, KAST and FECR (First Engagement Conversion Rate). I also have KIPR (Kill Impact Per Round) but that I have to do manually and takes too long so I dont take that into account most of the time but I am working on some kind of data scraper maybe that could do it automatally?. All these stats are weighted differently and I am currently experimenting with it. I know there is probably a lot more other factors to consider and I am working on it but I dont think it will ever be perfect
Imo headshot% shouldn't be taken too heavily into account
C0nfedant [#31]Oxy he overheats after 1 kill and thinking he is the best in thr world
He's like Lamelo in 2023 Hornets lol praised for his skills but won't be flamed for c9's failure because the team is just shit
Boketto [#41]KD, KPR, FEPR (First Engagements Per Round), FEWR (First Engagement Win Rate), HS%, KAST and FECR (First Engagement Conversion Rate). I also have KIPR (Kill Impact Per Round) but that I have to do manually and takes too long so I dont take that into account most of the time but I am working on some kind of data scraper maybe that could do it automatally?. All these stats are weighted differently and I am currently experimenting with it. I know there is probably a lot more other factors to consider and I am working on it but I dont think it will ever be perfect
FECR is basically if the first engagement win nets them the round yes?
ash_knuckles [#48]FECR is basically if the first engagement win nets them the round yes?
yeah basically it shows how effective their first engagement actually is because if they just get picked off all the time but not actually able to take space off that first engagement and eventually win the round then it is not really useful of course there are a bunch of other factors which is why it is probably better if its how many first engagements lead to planting the bomb instead of winning the round but idk give me your thoughts
Boketto [#49]yeah basically it shows how effective their first engagement actually is because if they just get picked off all the time but not actually able to take space off that first engagement and eventually win the round then it is not really useful of course there are a bunch of other factors which is why it is probably better if its how many first engagements lead to planting the bomb instead of winning the round but idk give me your thoughts
yeah it's fine maybe should be weighted a bit less because a conversion depends on other teammates ability to capitalize off their opening, but i guess u're playing around with it so it comes down to how you feel about its importance. Also swap HS for ADRa I guess? (lowkey its derivation is very ehh, and I dont expect your work to be as intensive as theirs so you could just not bother :P)
https://www.vlr.gg/160667/vlr-gg-player-rating-explained
Overall I'm just curious how this captures performance better than vlr's general rating system for all roles since u aren't directly factoring in assists like they do.
ash_knuckles [#52]yeah it's fine maybe should be weighted a bit less because a conversion depends on other teammates ability to capitalize off their opening, but i guess u're playing around with it so it comes down to how you feel about its importance. Also swap HS for ADRa I guess? (lowkey its derivation is very ehh, and I dont expect your work to be as intensive as theirs so you could just not bother :P)
https://www.vlr.gg/160667/vlr-gg-player-rating-explainedOverall I'm just curious how this captures performance better than vlr's general rating system for all roles since u aren't directly factoring in assists like they do.
Yeah, that is true. I will probably get rid of HS% entirely and give the weight to other stuff or yeah I could do ADRa.
This project is for coaching. Basically, I am a Tier 3 Valorant coach and I want to evaluate players that are trialing performance to each other to determine the best for our team. Right now I am focusing on stats, but there are other things that I want to add that will help me decide like chemistry and stuff that could be less factual stats and more opinions. I will be doing one for each role as they all have different responsibilities. This is different as opposed to the vlr rating which is trying to find the best player overall as they don't really categorize by roles and don't take into account all these other factors.
Boketto [#53]Yeah, that is true. I will probably get rid of HS% entirely and give the weight to other stuff or yeah I could do ADRa.
This project is for coaching. Basically, I am a Tier 3 Valorant coach and I want to evaluate players that are trialing performance to each other to determine the best for our team. Right now I am focusing on stats, but there are other things that I want to add that will help me decide like chemistry and stuff that could be less factual stats and more opinions. I will be doing one for each role as they all have different responsibilities. This is different as opposed to the vlr rating which is trying to find the best player overall as they don't really categorize by roles and don't take into account all these other factors.
I'm ngl that sounds like a fuck ton of work but it's for your career so 👍.
Do bear in mind that these stats can never tell the full story though, so capturing complex interrelationships like chem and stuff will almost definitely be lossy.
Also if u want a second opinion, dm the extremely french nerd @anguibok, she's played around with these numbers more than most on vlr. Or fehrago, if he responds. Good luck bro.
ash_knuckles [#56]I'm ngl that sounds like a fuck ton of work but it's for your career so 👍.
Do bear in mind that these stats can never tell the full story though, so capturing complex interrelationships like chem and stuff will almost definitely be lossy.
Also if u want a second opinion, dm the extremely french nerd @anguibok, she's played around with these numbers more than most on vlr. Or fehrago, if he responds. Good luck bro.
It's not that bad, it's just some parts I do want to eventually code to help automate it. Yeah, I could try. Thank you
Boketto [#59]Its not just a simple formula its multiple formulas within each other and its incomplete I will explain it when I finish it
can you tell me which stat you are giving the most weightage to?
Boketto [#39]No Im using Aspas as an example of a rating on the scale rather an example of a fraud duelist
oh ok, i misunderstood, my bad!
Boketto [#61]Currently Kill Impact but I am making up an alternative for First Engagement Conversion Rate that can also replace Kill Impact something along the lines of First Engagement Impact
How do you compute kill impact? Like the score system in the game?
z12 [#64]How do you compute kill impact? Like the score system in the game?
Basically we take the situation the kill is taken in and put it through multiplier to show the actual impact like a kill in a 1v5 situation is worth more than a kill in a 5v1 since you already have man advantage. Also there is economy multipliers as eco frags with a vandal against a pistol shouldnt be worth as much compared to a pistol kill against a vandal which is worth much more to turn around the economy. There is also wether or not it was after the round was won/lost as it only affects the economy but doesn't effect the round outcome. There is also time multipliers as kills when there is very less time both left in the round and left until spike explodes can be worth more to clutch up but time multipliers are the least weighted
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