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#1
GambleNats

Hello everyone some of my friends are going to play in a small tournament and I was wondering how viable some of these comps were (In order of Map confidence, ps they dont have a true intiator player, only "I can fill")

1.) Sunset - Gekko, Neon, Cypher, Omen, Raze
2.) Lotus - Astra, Clove, Killjoy, Raze, Fade
3.) Split - Viper, Clove, Raze, Skye, Cypher
4.) Abyss - Omen, Astra, Jett, Cypher, Sova
5.) Bind - Viper, Astra, Gekko, Raze, Fade
6.) Ascent - Killjoy, Sage, Sova, Jett, Clove
7.) Icebox - Sova, Viper, Sage, Jett, Clove
8.) Haven - Omen, KJ, Jett, Gekko, Chamber
9.) Pearl - Jett, Phoenix, Yoru, Raze, Reyna
10.) Fracture - Chamber, Raze, Yoru, Sage, Omen
11.) Breeze - Breach, Neon, Astra, Fade, Yoru

From icebox onwards they dont scrim so yeah

#2
tipthetim
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All are ass except pearl.

#3
GambleNats
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tipthetim [#2]

All are ass except pearl.

I thought you surely would enjoy the breeze comp

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tipthetim
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GambleNats [#3]

I thought you surely would enjoy the breeze comp

I stopped reading at pearl…

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cameran
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most of those are relatively fine, basically the meta comps played in vct

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Vaaero
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They're all a bit dubious but fade on breeze and omen on fracture are the worst ones in the bunch

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GambleNats
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Vaaero [#7]

They're all a bit dubious but fade on breeze and omen on fracture are the worst ones in the bunch

yeah they are considering astra instead of omen in fracture because the one brimstone player is on chamber (cuz his opping is really good)

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cameran [#6]

most of those are relatively fine, basically the meta comps played in vct

that was the idea, take what the meta comp is and try replace the intiator and then do troll comps on ur bad maps

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cloudberry
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GambleNats [#8]

yeah they are considering astra instead of omen in fracture because the one brimstone player is on chamber (cuz his opping is really good)

Brim op, problem solved

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cloudberry [#10]

Brim op, problem solved

T-T

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cloudberry
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GambleNats [#11]

T-T

Ok but fr what are the agent pools for each person?

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cloudberry [#12]

Ok but fr what are the agent pools for each person?

(In order of best player to worst e.g A > B)
Player A

  • All agents
  • IGL
  • Good at OP

Player B

  • Raze
  • Jett
  • Fade
  • Astra

Player C

  • Clove
  • Gekko
  • Reyna

Player D

  • All smokes but harbor and brim
  • Kj
  • Cypher

Player E

  • Sage
  • Kj
  • Clove
  • Cypher
  • Can fill intiator if necessary

SUB Player

  • Breech
  • Pheonix
  • Yoru
  • Sage
  • Gonna be forced onto smokes as well
#14
c00b
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Love the double controller comps with clove, I always win games with those comps

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cloudberry
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GambleNats [#13]

(In order of best player to worst e.g A > B)
Player A

  • All agents
  • IGL
  • Good at OP

Player B

  • Raze
  • Jett
  • Fade
  • Astra

Player C

  • Clove
  • Gekko
  • Reyna

Player D

  • All smokes but harbor and brim
  • Kj
  • Cypher

Player E

  • Sage
  • Kj
  • Clove
  • Cypher
  • Can fill intiator if necessary

SUB Player

  • Breech
  • Pheonix
  • Yoru
  • Sage
  • Gonna be forced onto smokes as well

For Fracture, if you wanna run A on Chamber you could do
B - Raze
C - Gekko
D - Astra
E - Sova, Fade, Breach, and KAY/O all work tbh

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cloudberry [#15]

For Fracture, if you wanna run A on Chamber you could do
B - Raze
C - Gekko
D - Astra
E - Sova, Fade, Breach, and KAY/O all work tbh

alright thanks

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GambleNats
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c00b [#14]

Love the double controller comps with clove, I always win games with those comps

yep especially since like everyone can play smokes we really played into that double controller comps

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cloudberry
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GambleNats [#16]

Update, I got permission to say who is playing:

Player A
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/BarbaraCult%239715/overview
Player B
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/kuning%234651/overview
Player C
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/istealcpus%23VVA/overview
Player D
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Forewarde%23%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B0%E3%83%9E/overview
Player E
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/AppleSiri%232916/overview?season=all
Sub Player
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Physixity%231809/overview

Coach:
Me :D https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/EDG%20KangKang%23Kang/overview

I looked at each person's Fracture/agent stats and here's another comp you can feasibly run
A - Killjoy (75% winrate on Fracture)
B - Jett (75% winrate on Fracture)
C - Gekko or Skye (their only good Fracture agent is Reyna but they have 250+ games on both of these so they should be able to play them comfortably on most maps)
D - Omen (not the best on this map but it def looks like their comfort pick so we'll go with it)
E - Fade (they have 1 full length game of Fracture ever and it's 31/14 MVP on Fade so we might as well)
Definitely more of a ranked comp but meh screw it, if this is more comfy for them then they'll do better regardless of meta

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cloudberry
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GambleNats [#17]

alright thanks

Np!

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cloudberry [#19]

I looked at each person's Fracture/agent stats and here's another comp you can feasibly run
A - Killjoy (75% winrate on Fracture)
B - Jett (75% winrate on Fracture)
C - Gekko or Skye (their only good Fracture agent is Reyna but they have 250+ games on both of these so they should be able to play them comfortably on most maps)
D - Omen (not the best on this map but it def looks like their comfort pick so we'll go with it)
E - Fade (they have 1 full length game of Fracture ever and it's 31/14 MVP on Fade so we might as well)
Definitely more of a ranked comp but meh screw it, if this is more comfy for them then they'll do better regardless of meta

I actually like this comp a lot, I also totally forgot you can check specific agent wr on maps

#23
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Taruuu1 [#22]

bro said permission like its an unexpected VCT roster leak and not a 50 dollar tournament

the people might have not wanted random people online to see their trackers

#24
GambleNats
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Taruuu1 [#22]

bro said permission like its an unexpected VCT roster leak and not a 50 dollar tournament

i was just trying to be respectful to everyone playing

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sunset: normal comp
lotus: fine enough, but i do think neon currently is stronger than raze
split: not a fan of clove as main smokes, i would go with astra, but this could work
abyss: fine too
bind: fine but i think brim is the best controller (his ult + molly are pretty significant on this map)
ascent: no. if youre gonna deviate from the best comp, at least use better agents
icebox: fine enough, but id go with killjoy instead of clove
haven: not a fan but this map is very open to different comps so its fine
pearl: jesus christ
fracture: use brim and kj
breeze: somehow worse than pearl

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1.) Sunset - Gekko, Neon, Cypher, Omen, Raze (Gekko single initiator wont work eg. EDG vs TH shanghai)
2.) Lotus - Astra, Clove, Killjoy, Raze, Fade (I acc kinda fw with this comp but omen/astra could switch since it gives u good rubble control ig)
3.) Split - Viper, Clove, Raze, Skye, Cypher (Omen for Clove its better in every way especially mid control)
4.) Abyss - Omen, Astra, Jett, Cypher, Sova (Great comp love it)
5.) Bind - Viper, Astra, Gekko, Raze, Fade (Love it but if it is a fast pace tournament u could switch viper out with cypher)
6.) Ascent - Killjoy, Sage, Sova, Jett, Clove (Its a good comp but me personally I love the LOUD comp more but it is acc not bad)
7.) Icebox - Sova, Viper, Sage, Jett, Clove (Would add another initiator instead of clove but its fine Kayo gives u better yellow control or harbor would work)
8.) Haven - Omen, KJ, Jett, Gekko, Chamber (Gekko singlie initiator and no duelist does not work on haven eg. KC vs FPX lock in)
9.) Pearl - Jett, Phoenix, Yoru, Raze, Reyna (Yo...)
10.) Fracture - Chamber, Raze, Yoru, Sage, Omen (Omen out Brim in)
11.) Breeze - Breach, Neon, Astra, Fade, Yoru (Ur pulling another prx)

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GambleNats
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foythvlr [#25]

sunset: normal comp
lotus: fine enough, but i do think neon currently is stronger than raze
split: not a fan of clove as main smokes, i would go with astra, but this could work
abyss: fine too
bind: fine but i think brim is the best controller (his ult + molly are pretty significant on this map)
ascent: no. if youre gonna deviate from the best comp, at least use better agents
icebox: fine enough, but id go with killjoy instead of clove
haven: not a fan but this map is very open to different comps so its fine
pearl: jesus christ
fracture: use brim and kj
breeze: somehow worse than pearl

Tips for ascent?
also for breeze we just did the prx 2022 comp lol

Im thinking if we get deeper in the tournament and get more chances to scrim more maps than we will fix the comps up a bit
and we are almost 100% leaving breeze as our permaban

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H3ENnZ [#26]

1.) Sunset - Gekko, Neon, Cypher, Omen, Raze (Gekko single initiator wont work eg. EDG vs TH shanghai)
2.) Lotus - Astra, Clove, Killjoy, Raze, Fade (I acc kinda fw with this comp but omen/astra could switch since it gives u good rubble control ig)
3.) Split - Viper, Clove, Raze, Skye, Cypher (Omen for Clove its better in every way especially mid control)
4.) Abyss - Omen, Astra, Jett, Cypher, Sova (Great comp love it)
5.) Bind - Viper, Astra, Gekko, Raze, Fade (Love it but if it is a fast pace tournament u could switch viper out with cypher)
6.) Ascent - Killjoy, Sage, Sova, Jett, Clove (Its a good comp but me personally I love the LOUD comp more but it is acc not bad)
7.) Icebox - Sova, Viper, Sage, Jett, Clove (Would add another initiator instead of clove but its fine Kayo gives u better yellow control or harbor would work)
8.) Haven - Omen, KJ, Jett, Gekko, Chamber (Gekko singlie initiator and no duelist does not work on haven eg. KC vs FPX lock in)
9.) Pearl - Jett, Phoenix, Yoru, Raze, Reyna (Yo...)
10.) Fracture - Chamber, Raze, Yoru, Sage, Omen (Omen out Brim in)
11.) Breeze - Breach, Neon, Astra, Fade, Yoru (Ur pulling another prx)

yeah im gonna try fix the solo intiator problems thanks

#29
MrBlooBloom
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Vaaero [#7]

They're all a bit dubious but fade on breeze and omen on fracture are the worst ones in the bunch

no but fr i kinda like the breeze one, just replace neon with viper and I swear to god that you might be able to do something as long as your yoru player is quite good at it

#30
BarbaraCult
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Yo lets go guys, the coach called me the best player :D

#31
BarbaraCult
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Vaaero [#7]

They're all a bit dubious but fade on breeze and omen on fracture are the worst ones in the bunch

Yo guys can we please convince the team chamber is a better pick than these intiators 😭🙏

#32
GambleNats
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BarbaraCult [#30]

Yo lets go guys, the coach called me the best player :D

and you better play like it >:(

#33
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foythvlr [#25]

sunset: normal comp
lotus: fine enough, but i do think neon currently is stronger than raze
split: not a fan of clove as main smokes, i would go with astra, but this could work
abyss: fine too
bind: fine but i think brim is the best controller (his ult + molly are pretty significant on this map)
ascent: no. if youre gonna deviate from the best comp, at least use better agents
icebox: fine enough, but id go with killjoy instead of clove
haven: not a fan but this map is very open to different comps so its fine
pearl: jesus christ
fracture: use brim and kj
breeze: somehow worse than pearl

But my chamber

#34
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H3ENnZ [#26]

1.) Sunset - Gekko, Neon, Cypher, Omen, Raze (Gekko single initiator wont work eg. EDG vs TH shanghai)
2.) Lotus - Astra, Clove, Killjoy, Raze, Fade (I acc kinda fw with this comp but omen/astra could switch since it gives u good rubble control ig)
3.) Split - Viper, Clove, Raze, Skye, Cypher (Omen for Clove its better in every way especially mid control)
4.) Abyss - Omen, Astra, Jett, Cypher, Sova (Great comp love it)
5.) Bind - Viper, Astra, Gekko, Raze, Fade (Love it but if it is a fast pace tournament u could switch viper out with cypher)
6.) Ascent - Killjoy, Sage, Sova, Jett, Clove (Its a good comp but me personally I love the LOUD comp more but it is acc not bad)
7.) Icebox - Sova, Viper, Sage, Jett, Clove (Would add another initiator instead of clove but its fine Kayo gives u better yellow control or harbor would work)
8.) Haven - Omen, KJ, Jett, Gekko, Chamber (Gekko singlie initiator and no duelist does not work on haven eg. KC vs FPX lock in)
9.) Pearl - Jett, Phoenix, Yoru, Raze, Reyna (Yo...)
10.) Fracture - Chamber, Raze, Yoru, Sage, Omen (Omen out Brim in)
11.) Breeze - Breach, Neon, Astra, Fade, Yoru (Ur pulling another prx)

The pearl is cooking trust

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Just received word that BarbaraCult wants to play Chamber on Breeze. This is your new comp:
kuning: Jett
istealcpus: Skye
Forewarde: Viper
AppleSiri: nah why does this guy only play Sage 💀 screw it they're on Sova now

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Harapan845
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cloudberry [#35]

Just received word that BarbaraCult wants to play Chamber on Breeze. This is your new comp:
kuning: Jett
istealcpus: Skye
Forewarde: Viper
AppleSiri: nah why does this guy only play Sage 💀 screw it they're on Sova now

lmao

#37
cloudberry
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Harapan845 [#36]

lmao

This is what happens when you only have one flexible player (well, kind of) but they want to play Chamber

#38
BarbaraCult
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cloudberry [#35]

Just received word that BarbaraCult wants to play Chamber on Breeze. This is your new comp:
kuning: Jett
istealcpus: Skye
Forewarde: Viper
AppleSiri: nah why does this guy only play Sage 💀 screw it they're on Sova now

Cloudberry is my goattttttt

#39
BarbaraCult
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cloudberry [#37]

This is what happens when you only have one flexible player (well, kind of) but they want to play Chamber

Yeah filling intiator for my team but if I need to carry I have to be on chanber

#40
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cloudberry [#35]

Just received word that BarbaraCult wants to play Chamber on Breeze. This is your new comp:
kuning: Jett
istealcpus: Skye
Forewarde: Viper
AppleSiri: nah why does this guy only play Sage 💀 screw it they're on Sova now

Yeah she loves sage lmao, for her we basically just said do your wall, get a kill and good job

#41
cloudberry
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BarbaraCult [#38]

Cloudberry is my goattttttt

You have a <50% winrate playing Chamber Breeze in ranked btw just letting you know
If you don't carry GambleNats is gonna want your head

#42
BarbaraCult
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cloudberry [#41]

You have a <50% winrate playing Chamber Breeze in ranked btw just letting you know
If you don't carry GambleNats is gonna want your head

Thats true but that was also years ago when I was playing on office equipment the new me will be the goat 🤫 (im gonna go -15)

#43
GambleNats
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BarbaraCult [#42]

Thats true but that was also years ago when I was playing on office equipment the new me will be the goat 🤫 (im gonna go -15)

if we play breeze, and I dont see you 40-5 you are NEVER and I mean NEVER playing chamber again

#44
BarbaraCult
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GambleNats [#43]

if we play breeze, and I dont see you 40-5 you are NEVER and I mean NEVER playing chamber again

Feels like I just got scolded by my mom

#45
cloudberry
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GambleNats [#43]

if we play breeze, and I dont see you 40-5 you are NEVER and I mean NEVER playing chamber again

Bruh this ain't fair what if AppleSiri aces every round and it's a 13-0 so they don't get any kills at all

#46
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cloudberry [#45]

Bruh this ain't fair what if AppleSiri aces every round and it's a 13-0 so they don't get any kills at all

Listen if we win any map 13-0 I will give barbaracult the 25 champs + fpx bundle

#47
cloudberry
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GambleNats [#46]

Listen if we win any map 13-0 I will give barbaracult the 25 champs + fpx bundle

Should I tell number2_cNed_fan to put that in https://www.vlr.gg/349796/im-keeping-receipts

#48
BarbaraCult
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cloudberry [#47]

Should I tell number2_cNed_fan to put that in https://www.vlr.gg/349796/im-keeping-receipts

100% (thank you cloudberry 😙 gonna post the results of the matches tmrw or sunday)

#49
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replace clove with viper for double controller or omen

#50
GambleNats
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stellaresca [#49]

replace clove with viper for double controller or omen

what map you talking about

#51
allestedsnaervaerende
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omg you should play vyse!! :D

#52
BarbaraCult
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allestedsnaervaerende [#51]

omg you should play vyse!! :D

Only person who has played vyse is me, and im gonna pick chamber over any sentinel. Besides kj on ascent

#53
allestedsnaervaerende
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BarbaraCult [#52]

Only person who has played vyse is me, and im gonna pick chamber over any sentinel. Besides kj on ascent

but- but why not vyse... :<

#54
BarbaraCult
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allestedsnaervaerende [#53]

but- but why not vyse... :<

Just for you bro, im gonna ask

#55
GambleNats
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BarbaraCult [#54]

Just for you bro, im gonna ask

rejected

#56
GambleNats
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allestedsnaervaerende [#53]

but- but why not vyse... :<

bro I do not know how to cook up a strat with vyse TT

#57
allestedsnaervaerende
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GambleNats [#55]

rejected

gamblenats i thought you were nice :<<<

#58
GambleNats
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allestedsnaervaerende [#57]

gamblenats i thought you were nice :<<<

not nice enough to let vyse into a map >:(

#59
allestedsnaervaerende
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GambleNats [#58]

not nice enough to let vyse into a map >:(

why not T^T

#60
cloudberry
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GambleNats [#56]

bro I do not know how to cook up a strat with vyse TT

Just play her on Fracture tbh. Take the same comps I gave you earlier and play Vyse instead of Chamber

#61
BarbaraCult
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cloudberry [#60]

Just play her on Fracture tbh. Take the same comps I gave you earlier and play Vyse instead of Chamber

I just won popular vote 4-2. Vyse will be on fracture

#62
BarbaraCult
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allestedsnaervaerende [#59]

why not T^T

WE ARE DOING IT NOW 👍

#63
GambleNats
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BarbaraCult [#62]

WE ARE DOING IT NOW 👍

it appears so...

#64
cloudberry
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BarbaraCult [#61]

I just won popular vote 4-2. Vyse will be on fracture

@allestedsnaervaerende There you go (what is this username)

#65
Harapan845
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GambleNats [#63]

it appears so...

DEMOCRACY

#66
allestedsnaervaerende
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BarbaraCult [#62]

WE ARE DOING IT NOW 👍

YIPEE :D

#67
allestedsnaervaerende
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Harapan845 [#65]

DEMOCRACY

the gamblenats dictatorship has fallen :3 vyse lovers rejoice!

#68
foythvlr
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GambleNats [#27]

Tips for ascent?
also for breeze we just did the prx 2022 comp lol

Im thinking if we get deeper in the tournament and get more chances to scrim more maps than we will fix the comps up a bit
and we are almost 100% leaving breeze as our permaban

honestly i dont think theres any need to innovate on ascent on "low level" like if you play it well enough you will already win most of your games, t1 new ascent comps games were mostly because every team was playing the same and they wanted to counter one another, but the 2022 comp is still the best there is to the map until they change it or the agents.

if you really want to get freaky and feel comfortable enough with it then go for it tho, enemies probably wont know how to counter. its your team after all and you all should be comfortable with your agents, its best to play in comfort than to twist yourself up for the meta (specially on lower level)

breeze comp is fair enough lol but i do think that prx comps only work with them because they're used to the "chaos" playstyle and trust one another 100% on the game, to normal teams that comp (and their comps in general) is mostly not good

#69
GambleNats
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foythvlr [#68]

honestly i dont think theres any need to innovate on ascent on "low level" like if you play it well enough you will already win most of your games, t1 new ascent comps games were mostly because every team was playing the same and they wanted to counter one another, but the 2022 comp is still the best there is to the map until they change it or the agents.

if you really want to get freaky and feel comfortable enough with it then go for it tho, enemies probably wont know how to counter. its your team after all and you all should be comfortable with your agents, its best to play in comfort than to twist yourself up for the meta (specially on lower level)

breeze comp is fair enough lol but i do think that prx comps only work with them because they're used to the "chaos" playstyle and trust one another 100% on the game, to normal teams that comp (and their comps in general) is mostly not good

its just that we have character pool limitations. we could have gekko > sage but thats it

#70
allestedsnaervaerende
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cloudberry [#64]

@allestedsnaervaerende There you go (what is this username)

thank you cloudberry!! <3
allestedsnærværende is danish for ubiquitous, which is the adjective form of ubique, which is a latin-to-english word which means everywhere

#71
foythvlr
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BarbaraCult [#33]

But my chamber

chamber is a fun agent put it in every map

#72
foythvlr
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GambleNats [#69]

its just that we have character pool limitations. we could have gekko > sage but thats it

fair enough. but i do think eventually (if you guys are willing to get into more tourneys and stuff) someone should learn kayo. hes a very fun agent and very overpowered and essential when played right

#73
GambleNats
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foythvlr [#72]

fair enough. but i do think eventually (if you guys are willing to get into more tourneys and stuff) someone should learn kayo. hes a very fun agent and very overpowered and essential when played right

yeah if we play more tournaments/premier we will expand our agent pool instead of 1 guy filling around everyone else. the time crunch has been insane weve only prepped on thursday and we play on saturday. (RIP my sleep for antistrats)

#74
cloudberry
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allestedsnaervaerende [#70]

thank you cloudberry!! <3
allestedsnærværende is danish for ubiquitous, which is the adjective form of ubique, which is a latin-to-english word which means everywhere

Oh that's actually pretty neat

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