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Trans Unfair Advantage

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dawnmoer

People love to claim that trans/nb players have a "biological advantage," but KRU lost to G2, MIBR srN & Jelly didn't dominate against GX, and FLY evv & Starbound lost to XIP.
Only Florescent gets hate because SR is so successful, and she's a good player. You can't say that she's only good because she's trans when other trans/nb players don't see the same level of success as her.

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DownLoad_AimLabs
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Flor is my gcers goat end of discussion

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washedradiant
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Just wait till people realize florescents skill is just a 1 in 1 billion. But that will only happen if she moves to franchise, since most flor hates dont actually watch her play.

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Riyal

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Harapan845
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hasn't she had the whole hormone blocker thing done as well

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kanyefan4238173
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Exactly brah, like it’s video games not boxing. Differences can’t be that big

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DownLoad_AimLabs
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Harapan845 [#5]

hasn't she had the whole hormone blocker thing done as well

yes it is legal in the US to get hormone blockers when underage with parent consent

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Yuh_aye
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If you accept the premise of GC, which is that certain 'genders' are marginalized and therefore require separate competition, then living a considerable portion of your life as a non-marginalized gender would be an unfair advantage.

But the reality is that GC is just a t4 league and flor is better than t4. Nothing to do with an inherent advantage.

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HershieBoi
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I'm not too sure if there is science-based evidence that female esports players are worse than male esports players but I hate it when people say I support X team because they have no trans players. That is the literal definition of Transphobia. It's like saying I support X NBA team because they have less black players. Like why is this normal??

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FreedomFighter
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Why are there so many trans players in game changers then? The real life ratio of trans to female is approx 1:80

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Harapan845
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DownLoad_AimLabs [#7]

yes it is legal in the US to get hormone blockers when underage with parent consent

i guess thats gonna stop soon

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Harapan845
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Harapan845 [#11]

i guess thats gonna stop soon

wait fuck poltics sry mods mb

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DownLoad_AimLabs
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Harapan845 [#11]

i guess thats gonna stop soon

only if it gets passed as an amendment, but if its a law then its up to the states

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FreedomFighter [#10]

Why are there so many trans players in game changers then? The real life ratio of trans to female is approx 1:80

Trans women are typically more commonly found in online gaming spaces due to being able to exist without IRL discrimination. You can present female online without ever having to show your face or voice. This results in a larger trans population than you would find irl.

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FreedomFighter [#10]

Why are there so many trans players in game changers then? The real life ratio of trans to female is approx 1:80

imo a lot of trans people find the internet easier to navigate than real life so more trans people being into gaming just makes sense to me. Also why would there need to be more women than trans people in gc, gc its not just for women but for all marginalized genders <3

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kanyefan4238173 [#6]

Exactly brah, like it’s video games not boxing. Differences can’t be that big

after looking at how long orgs tried to nuture female players in CS, yeah the differences have to be big

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IsaaaValorant
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makes no sense to mald over trans players, it’s not like they are changing their whole life just to play in an underfunded GC circuit. if they were trans to start with that that’s their biological gender in my opinion.

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Clucker
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So they just suck?

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Zerphyr1
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To determine if there’s a biological advantage you need to look at the representation of trans players relative to the overall population of bio women within Valorant.

It's like if you had said that people above 5 foot 3 are generally better at valorant than compared with people under 5 foot 3, this is a stupid argument if you're just looking at who is seen doing well in gc. 5 foot 3 people may be proportionally better as if only 5% of val pop is below 5 foot 3 but in pro play 10% of players are below 5 foot 3 then there is a potential chance for there to be biological advantages.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but your generalising the success of all trans people off cherry picked data and you have a lack of understanding of proportional statistics.

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Harapan845 [#11]

i guess thats gonna stop soon

I hope so, because like Trump said, no serious country should be telling it's children that they were born with the wrong gender

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washedradiant [#3]

Just wait till people realize florescents skill is just a 1 in 1 billion. But that will only happen if she moves to franchise, since most flor hates dont actually watch her play.

Guess all the random T3 players that clear her are "1 in 1 billion" as well then lmao

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x_knowitall39_x [#16]

after looking at how long orgs tried to nuture female players in CS, yeah the differences have to be big

You have to factor in the amount of male vs female CS players and how far they push themselves. All the CS kid prodigies spawn with atleast 10k hrs by age 16, meanwhile most female CS pros have yet to hit that amount at ages 23-24. They need to push themselves harder at an earlier age to get better results, and also look to play outside of fe only teams, but that seems easier said than done, as the only name that comes to mind is GFi, and shes close to 40 by now.

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washedradiant [#3]

Just wait till people realize florescents skill is just a 1 in 1 billion. But that will only happen if she moves to franchise, since most flor hates dont actually watch her play.

1 in 1 billion? Even Einstein wouldnt make a claim like that lmao

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ballsinyojaws
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suklaamies699 [#20]

I hope so, because like Trump said, no serious country should be telling it's children that they were born with the wrong gender

why is this getting downvotes, don't force that shit onto children, once they're 18, let them decide for themselves, anyone who disagrees is a pdf

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washedradiant [#3]

Just wait till people realize florescents skill is just a 1 in 1 billion. But that will only happen if she moves to franchise, since most flor hates dont actually watch her play.

1 in 1 billion? Are you high? Watching Flor farm ascendants/immortals in GC must've brainwashed you.

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ProDep
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flor clears a lot of franchising players and people hate to admit it

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ballsinyojaws [#24]

why is this getting downvotes, don't force that shit onto children, once they're 18, let them decide for themselves, anyone who disagrees is a pdf

nobody is telling flor "you are the wrong gender" she decided that herself lmfao

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ballsinyojaws [#24]

why is this getting downvotes, don't force that shit onto children, once they're 18, let them decide for themselves, anyone who disagrees is a pdf

from what I understand the idea behind hormone blockers is exactly what you are saying, wait until they are 18, it just slows the process of puberty so they can decide if they want to commit to something that would actually change your body

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Wtakesonly12
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maybe not in esports but in real sports they do.

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TheBigBoiPenguin [#27]

nobody is telling flor "you are the wrong gender" she decided that herself lmfao

uhhh joe biden did or something its his america joe biden is turning the kids trans !!!!

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saynotoherpes [#28]

from what I understand the idea behind hormone blockers is exactly what you are saying, wait until they are 18, it just slows the process of puberty so they can decide if they want to commit to something that would actually change your body

pubery is done in most people at 18 tf

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washedradiant
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grisx23 [#23]

1 in 1 billion? Even Einstein wouldnt make a claim like that lmao

it was an exaggeration, obv not that many val players, meant to say that there isnt another florescent in GC

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Layne
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Marginalized genders started to marginalize female gender

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