Boostio is a good igl but over Valyn is crazy

I think LOUD have no chance of beating KRU

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Replace OXY with Icy on C9 last season and C9 might not even win a map. What are you smoking?

Subaru in the top 10 is nasty work

Duelist: Reduxx
Smokes: Skuba
Scan Initiator/IGL: Tdawgg
Flash Initiator/Flex: NiSMO
Sentinal: Nightz

Is this gonna be a run back of OXY and friends? We will see...

Before 2023, Demon1 never played an official match or challengers and farmed every tier 1 pro that you would say were better than him beforehand.

agreed

Erased

How are these tier 2 players supposed to prove themselves if no one gives them a chance? I'm glad you're not a GM bc ik you would just keep recycling the same mid old washed up players bc u just find it so hard to believe that tier 2 players can be way better than some current tier 1 even though it's been proven time and time again.

He's still better than Net and has a higher ceiling too.

Add3r > Net. C9 please get OXY some actual help instead of more mid. Could probably get Add3r for cheaper too.

Leaf is their best player. It would NOT be the same if he was kicked.

Unfair? They got instantly better after dropping Net for Icy.

Mid. I think C9 should get a better shooter to help OXY (and sometimes v1c) with fragging.

Edit: Players I can think of rn are Victor, Nabil, Add3r, Thief, Mikee, Paincakes, and Sayaplayer.

So you're just gonna ignore the rounds Cortezia single handily won to help give them their huge lead?

Khalil is a bigger paycheck stealer than ange1 because there aren't that many good igls in EU tier 2 while Brazil tier 2 has PLENTY of players better than Khalil.

Khalil.

"Deserving franchising". Babyj is mid to bad. He just so happened to be on a winning team. If he were on any other random t2/t3 team nobody would be saying this.

I think it's time.

i think nzr

Lukxo better

C9 need a way better fragger than Net. I think Paincakes or Nabil would be better.

It was either Moose gets dropped now or mid season. I think now is better than later.

If C9 did proper trials, Rossy would've never joined and Moose would've been kicked along with Vanity and Runi at the beginning of the season. I'm still glad they didn't wait till kickoff to kick Moose though. C9 management is terrible because out of the 47 other teams in VCT, C9 is the only team where they seem clueless and unorganized during the offseason. That is until a month before the season starts and they realize they have to actually do their jobs and not be incompetent morons. Like what Vanity said, they didn't even run trials for any of the other member besides him but now their forced to run trials a month before the season starts.

TLDR: C9 management is paycheck stealing.

C9 need more firepower and Net isn't really a shooter.

Hopefully they get someone with way more firepower

name checks out

Moose rn

Moose is terrible and isn't even a tier 1 caliber player but I think Sarah could MAYBE be a bottom tier 1 player mechanics wise.

bro is getting paid to carry m00se

v1c > skuba

Chill on v1c. He was very good in tier 2 and hasn't played a vct match yet. But yeah I agree Moose is a bum.

Tbh Moose's skill ceiling is not high at all so I think C9 picking up a different senti player that will boost our firepower tremendously is better than giving Moose another chance.

There are better Tier 2 sentis than Moose that would take league minimum to play on c9

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U got it a lil wrong. Immi had noticed a problem with Rossy towards the beginning that he thought Rossy could fix. He informed Rossy on this but the team finally dropped him when the problem was still persistent after months (atleast thats what i got from it).

All players and coaching staff voted for Rossy to be released so they must've all agreed that there was a problem that would best be solved if Rossy wasn't apart of the roster.

Mitch was a very good igl this year. what are u on about?

https://x.com/C9VAL/status/1863768084621766684

I'm not trying to defend C9 decisions but we have no idea what is happening behind closed doors.

Keep Rossy and remove Moose for Mitch*

You really linked knights monthly from a year ago 💀. Moose had the worst stats out of everyone in Cloud9 in this years vct and even worse stats in the offseason. Moose clears not one person I named.

Moose is terrible bro.

If ur dropping Rossy u might as well drop Moose too. Moose is bad and there are way better senti players available. Simple Math.

Asuna has dirt on someone in 100T management or brainwashed them. I don't think he can be dropped.

Moose next pls

A team that couldn't even qualify to the tournament that RANKERS just won beat 100T. Enough said.

If 100T can lose to a random tier 3 team then RANKERS can beat FURIA.