To me, the patch 5.07 was the worst patch ever and literally destroyed the balance of the flasher role, as usual instead of making a big allat text, here is the reading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLTG0jumoJQ
tldr ; They made soloQ agent even more soloQ, and proplay agent even more proplay for the sake of "Identity"
LycheeBlade [#2]The worst patch ever was the one that released the agent named Chamber
i would do anything for that meta to come back over this neon dogshit we have now
Kiko [#4]i would do anything for that meta to come back over this neon dogshit we have now
neon is stupid to play against, but she's not game breaking -- just stupid. when people found out how powerful chamber is, you had two chambers in every game. if your team didn't pick a chamber and the enemy team did, it was basically GG.
and i somewhat agree with CanadaMan -- gigabuffed Iso was a million times worse than current Neon, but the devs were at least smart enough to not let him ruin the game for months on end.
CanadaMan [#5]just wrong, Iso in his nerfed current state is still way more annoying and oppressive than Neon
just not true. when you have players with good aim that can 100% accuracy slide headshot u its far worse than iso. and im taking chamber meta over it. there is no changing my mind
Kiko [#7]just not true. when you have players with good aim that can 100% accuracy slide headshot u its far worse than iso. and im taking chamber meta over it. there is no changing my mind
Chamber could literally take over any game, have full controll over 3 or 4 lanes, and he was good on every single map. You can still kill a Neon sliding, if an Iso has his shield up, he can tank a headshot. Neon is not the best duelist on every single map.
I would much rather go up against current neon over Iso and Prime chamber.
LycheeBlade [#2]The worst patch ever was the one that released the agent named Chamber
Last time viable agent was realease, good sovenir
Kiko [#4]i would do anything for that meta to come back over this neon dogshit we have now
I am not sure if I can say this, but I think the reason Iso got nerfed is because his buffs were very overpowered and hard to win against
I'd argue that the Iso buffs were way more overpowered than Neon,
CanadaMan [#8]Chamber could literally take over any game, have full controll over 3 or 4 lanes, and he was good on every single map. You can still kill a Neon sliding, if an Iso has his shield up, he can tank a headshot. Neon is not the best duelist on every single map.
I would much rather go up against current neon over Iso and Prime chamber.
Good takes are not approved on vlr sadly
CanadaMan [#3]The worst patch is when they buffed Iso
raze ult doesn't even give any impact to iso while his shield is on
legit game breaker
CanadaMan [#8]Chamber could literally take over any game, have full controll over 3 or 4 lanes, and he was good on every single map. You can still kill a Neon sliding, if an Iso has his shield up, he can tank a headshot. Neon is not the best duelist on every single map.
I would much rather go up against current neon over Iso and Prime chamber.
I think it all comes down to how good you are at the game speaking from ranked perspective. Diamond and below, most of the time players aim is mediocre so they don't find constant value in iso and chamber meaning you can win the duel against them. Compared to a neon, if you're bad at tracking, most of the time you will lose to the neon regardless of how good the neon is.
I'm sure pre-nerfed chamber was busted in immo up but in the slums of diamond and below, players didn't know how to use chamber properly
eric_5008 [#15]I think it all comes down to how good you are at the game speaking from ranked perspective. Diamond and below, most of the time players aim is mediocre so they don't find constant value in iso and chamber meaning you can win the duel against them. Compared to a neon, if you're bad at tracking, most of the time you will lose to the neon regardless of how good the neon is.
I'm sure pre-nerfed chamber was busted in immo up but in the slums of diamond and below, players didn't know how to use chamber properly
Idk to me chamber felt kinda fair, like oh I could have jumpspotted or called for a drone or a flash or something damn this sucks but it makes some sense, also thia guy has great aim damn go next.
With Neon it's like ... i am stunned by a line up i have 4 chances to fire an inaccurate bullet before i get ran the fuck down by some kid on aderalll. Losing to a good neon just sucks and feels like you have no chance and i feel like its why people dont like the agent. (I was in low elo during chamber meta and I am now playing against immo+ neons so maybe I am biased)
Alr3adyGone [#16]No one understands the demons I was fighting when reyna had 4 heal/dismisses and raze had 2 nades. I still have nightmares
GTFO MAN, THE PTSD. 4 SOUL ORB REYNA 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.
highlyte [#19]Maybe we would all be better off if this game never left beta?
True about the agent, not really true about every other things
Alr3adyGone [#16]No one understands the demons I was fighting when reyna had 4 heal/dismisses and raze had 2 nades. I still have nightmares
I have no idea why did they release Reyna like that...
H3ENnZ [#10]The worst patch is when they buffed neon (I dont play neon)
This patch is also high in my ranking, I should also make a video about what is a "sane agent"
LycheeBlade [#6]neon is stupid to play against, but she's not game breaking -- just stupid. when people found out how powerful chamber is, you had two chambers in every game. if your team didn't pick a chamber and the enemy team did, it was basically GG.
and i somewhat agree with CanadaMan -- gigabuffed Iso was a million times worse than current Neon, but the devs were at least smart enough to not let him ruin the game for months on end.
"Stupid to play against" may be one of the defiition of gamebreaking to me.
That should be one of the mostused data you check whern release a new agent
AKIRA1988 [#17]Idk to me chamber felt kinda fair, like oh I could have jumpspotted or called for a drone or a flash or something damn this sucks but it makes some sense, also thia guy has great aim damn go next.
With Neon it's like ... i am stunned by a line up i have 4 chances to fire an inaccurate bullet before i get ran the fuck down by some kid on aderalll. Losing to a good neon just sucks and feels like you have no chance and i feel like its why people dont like the agent. (I was in low elo during chamber meta and I am now playing against immo+ neons so maybe I am biased)
I agree with that, sure he could make sthings nobody can, but he has also a lot of weakness (His attack phase), I should focus making data on season 2, but i'm not that sure that he was so high in NMWR
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