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Fpx gonna roll drx & talon..
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zyonick [#3]u r actual retaard if u think fpx arent gonna shit on them in bo1..
they have yosemite lmfao zj0s would be better for this team plus fpx are frauds
z12 [#2]LMFAO id be surprised if fpx got less than 100 rounds
You've probably never seen FPX play, have you?
AfterGlow22 [#6]You've probably never seen FPX play, have you?
ive seen them play enough to know that this drx roster has crazy high firepower and termi is good enough a coach for the team to have decent fundamentals. Fpx troll a lot ive seen them play in split 2 cn and ive seen the sen match i have also seen yosemite's lows and i think that these weaknesses make drx come out as the better team by far.
zyonick [#7]well yosemite isnt gonna pull angel1 like lysor.. Free for fpx.Gen g is still way too good
berl1n is the one who ints you dumbfuck 0 ball knowledge plus he is the igl on smokes
z12 [#8]ive seen them play enough to know that this drx roster has crazy high firepower and termi is good enough a coach for the team to have decent fundamentals. Fpx troll a lot ive seen them play in split 2 cn and ive seen the sen match i have also seen yosemite's lows and i think that these weaknesses make drx come out as the better team by far.
We'll see though. Don't be shocked if FPX loses though
AfterGlow22 [#10]We'll see though. Don't be shocked if FPX loses though
yeah i wont be shocked? it is the likely outcome
zyonick [#13]both throw on omen .. Atleast berlin can shoot back..
lysoar was much fucking better than berlin as a fragger even though he was a huge fraud
seofps [#14]drx firepower alone can beat every team on apac
true but we had enough firepower in 2022 to beat everyone aswell, streets wont forget champs 2022 drx :(
yellow_donkey [#15]i mean its an off-season tournament + GENG and DRX has new line up, so all of us are just excited to watch the new players.
It's same for fpx.good test with gen g drx firepower & fpx brainrot playstyle..
seofps [#14]drx firepower alone can beat every team on apac
talented af roster everyone is a crazy shooter and i think i trust mako's igling and termi's coaching. I think they will be the best pacific team next year and i dont think it will be close.
Seo_w [#17]true but we had enough firepower in 2022 to beat everyone aswell, streets wont forget champs 2022 drx :(
2022 drx wasn't really a firepower team, they were never in the firepower team conversation
Seo_w [#17]true but we had enough firepower in 2022 to beat everyone aswell, streets wont forget champs 2022 drx :(
a straight lie, didn’t even try to justify it, just a straight up lie
merciless-pity8989-89 [#23]a straight lie, didn’t even try to justify it, just a straight up lie
i ain't gonna respond to you fake fan who blames BuZz for everything wrong with drx lmao
pitchfork [#21]2022 drx wasn't really a firepower team, they were never in the firepower team conversation
tbf the setplays the drx was known for during its VS era was starting to get really outdated, 2022 champs DRX compared to previous masters runs were a lot more firepower reliant and it was the perfect time because everyone was firing very well (DRX vs FPX never forget) definitely could've had it back then
Seo_w [#25]i ain't gonna respond to you fake fan who blames BuZz for everything wrong with drx lmao
not even gonna lie, i want you to go back to that post and read what i wrote, I literally said it wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought and it mostly wasn’t his fault, but you still can’t deny he plays different(in playstyle and quality) in bigger games. If you read instead of just looking at the numbers i put and making assumptions, you would have noticed that part
zyonick [#18]It's same for fpx.good test with gen g drx firepower & fpx brainrot playstyle..
fpx try not to be normal challenge
merciless-pity8989-89 [#27]not even gonna lie, i want you to go back to that post and read what i wrote, I literally said it wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought and it mostly wasn’t his fault, but you still can’t deny he plays different(in playstyle and quality) in bigger games. If you read instead of just looking at the numbers i put and making assumptions, you would have noticed that part
bringing only champs 2024 numbers wont do you any good, bring every other internationals drx played and you will see BuZz performs up to par on playoffs with his group stage performance, only person in OG DRX who actually disappeared during big games was actually Rb who actually fixed his inconsistencies late 2023 but termi still decided it was unsatisfactory and kicked a player who flexed 13 agents a season!
Seo_w [#29]bringing only champs 2024 numbers wont do you any good, bring every other internationals drx played and you will see BuZz performs up to par on playoffs with his group stage performance, only person in OG DRX who actually disappeared during big games was actually Rb who actually fixed his inconsistencies late 2023 but termi still decided it was unsatisfactory and kicked a player who flexed 13 agents a season!
i literally posted his stats in every international b4 in a separate thread, I compared his group stage stats to his playoff stats. And except for one time. There was always a significant decrease in nearly every stat. And even then, I still mentioned that it wasn’t completely his fault. Yeah, you forgot to mention that rb had his worst ever tournament in champs 2024. And you can’t even blame his bad performance on him having to flex a lot of roles at champs bc he only played 2 agents. I understand you like those players, at the time, i also didn’t like the fact he dropped rb, but you can’t just use nostalgia to fuel lies you made up in ur head
merciless-pity8989-89 [#30]i literally posted his stats in every international b4 in a separate thread, I compared his group stage stats to his playoff stats. And except for one time. There was always a significant decrease in nearly every stat. And even then, I still mentioned that it wasn’t completely his fault. Yeah, you forgot to mention that rb had his worst ever tournament in champs 2024. And you can’t even blame his bad performance on him having to flex a lot of roles at champs bc he only played 2 agents. I understand you like those players, at the time, i also didn’t like the fact he dropped rb, but you can’t just use nostalgia to fuel lies you made up in ur head
Group stage DRX who always makes out of group of course players will have higher stats than when DRX loses 2 games during playoffs and drop out, of course Rb will have the worst stats in 2023 season when he has to either mainly play sentinel when BuZz is playing duelist or playing smokes/initiator when Foxy9 gets put on duelist, just because he played 2 agents in champs doesn't mean he only put practice and scrims into 2 agents? did you forget DRX finalized their 5 man roster very late going into champs? Also what blinded by nostalgia? The OG DRX who actually used to fight for top 3 in the world? or the current DRX who has fallen to such lows we celebrate top 3 in pacific?
merciless-pity8989-89 [#30]i literally posted his stats in every international b4 in a separate thread, I compared his group stage stats to his playoff stats. And except for one time. There was always a significant decrease in nearly every stat. And even then, I still mentioned that it wasn’t completely his fault. Yeah, you forgot to mention that rb had his worst ever tournament in champs 2024. And you can’t even blame his bad performance on him having to flex a lot of roles at champs bc he only played 2 agents. I understand you like those players, at the time, i also didn’t like the fact he dropped rb, but you can’t just use nostalgia to fuel lies you made up in ur head
I dont know what you mean when you say I am blinded by nostalgia when old DRX used to push the best teams in the world like Optic and LOUD to their limits with close 2-3 games while all we saw this year was 2 exits in pacific and 1 mid run at champs beating teams like KRU and Trace, swept by SEN and lost against TH when everything was going in our favor in icebox, the only decent win against fnatic was when BuZz took over the whole game. you still don't understand our team's downfall started when foxy9 was swapped for zest
Seo_w [#31]Group stage DRX who always makes out of group of course players will have higher stats than when DRX loses 2 games during playoffs and drop out, of course Rb will have the worst stats in 2023 season when he has to either mainly play sentinel when BuZz is playing duelist or playing smokes/initiator when Foxy9 gets put on duelist, just because he played 2 agents in champs doesn't mean he only put practice and scrims into 2 agents? did you forget DRX finalized their 5 man roster very late going into champs? Also what blinded by nostalgia? The OG DRX who actually used to fight for top 3 in the world? or the current DRX who has fallen to such lows we celebrate top 3 in pacific?
For one, this should be obvious, usually stats are worse the the player plays worse, and when the players play worse, the team does worse. So obviously his stats are a reflection of team success; but team success is a reflection of player performances. Rb is a flex player. He was only the duelist for a large part of 2022 bc of the chamber meta(similar to how victor was the duelist in 2022 despite him being a flex) Flex players specialize in playing multiple roles. You can’t just blame his performance on having to flex multiple roles bc that’s literally what he’s supposed to don. THE OG DRX got top 3 ONE TIME. They were always 5th-6th. And guess what that one 3rd place was on the back of MaKo and whoever else wanted to turn on their monitor that day. And guess what, the player that has been consistently carrying DRX, is still on the team, don’t pretend like the other were even near his level. Ppl only recently started to hype BuZz up a lot when MaKo had to take a step back and igl. Otherwise MaKo is the only DRX player ever that is irreplaceable
Seo_w [#32]I dont know what you mean when you say I am blinded by nostalgia when old DRX used to push the best teams in the world like Optic and LOUD to their limits with close 2-3 games while all we saw this year was 2 exits in pacific and 1 mid run at champs beating teams like KRU and Trace, swept by SEN and lost against TH when everything was going in our favor in icebox, the only decent win against fnatic was when BuZz took over the whole game. you still don't understand our team's downfall started when foxy9 was swapped for zest
Plz, 2022 teams are not even close to the level of teams now. Look at all the top 2022 players and teams now. Pushing them does not mean shit, and. Don’t give me the bullshit that we pushed those teams based on player talent. DRX were notorious for their playstyle, that’s why they were good(+MaKo). Guess who created that style, Termi. It reaches a point where that playstyle isn’t enough to win and we have to bring in better players
merciless-pity8989-89 [#33]For one, this should be obvious, usually stats are worse the the player plays worse, and when the players play worse, the team does worse. So obviously his stats are a reflection of team success; but team success is a reflection of player performances. Rb is a flex player. He was only the duelist for a large part of 2022 bc of the chamber meta(similar to how victor was the duelist in 2022 despite him being a flex) Flex players specialize in playing multiple roles. You can’t just blame his performance on having to flex multiple roles bc that’s literally what he’s supposed to don. THE OG DRX got top 3 ONE TIME. They were always 5th-6th. And guess what that one 3rd place was on the back of MaKo and whoever else wanted to turn on their monitor that day. And guess what, the player that has been consistently carrying DRX, is still on the team, don’t pretend like the other were even near his level. Ppl only recently started to hype BuZz up a lot when MaKo had to take a step back and igl. Otherwise MaKo is the only DRX player ever that is irreplaceable
Did we even watch the same tournament? Please genuinely go rematch every Champs 2022 DRX game and tell me MaKo is the only one carrying, when BuZz held map kill record for a year with his performance against FPX, they got 3rd place in LOCKIN going down to world champions LOUD, we haven't gotten close to these results and significance since their downfall lol
Seo_w [#36]Did we even watch the same tournament? Please genuinely go rematch every Champs 2022 DRX game and tell me MaKo is the only one carrying, when BuZz held map kill record for a year with his performance against FPX, they got 3rd place in LOCKIN going down to world champions LOUD, we haven't gotten close to these results and significance since their downfall lol
i never said he was the only one carrying, i said it was mako and whoever else wanted to turn on their monitors that day. AND LMFAO, don’t even bring up lock/in, they didn’t even play any good teams until they reached top 4
merciless-pity8989-89 [#35]Plz, 2022 teams are not even close to the level of teams now. Look at all the top 2022 players and teams now. Pushing them does not mean shit, and. Don’t give me the bullshit that we pushed those teams based on player talent. DRX were notorious for their playstyle, that’s why they were good(+MaKo). Guess who created that style, Termi. It reaches a point where that playstyle isn’t enough to win and we have to bring in better players
you clearly do not understand anything before 2023, let me make it clear that the whole calculated aggression playstyle everyone talks about VS/DRX actually comes from the era of MVP PK in csgo, where multiple iterations of their roster slowly refined that playstyle, obviously they never got much international success, but they still pushed at that times top teams like liquid to very close scorelines, so don't you dare credit everything to termi when solo, HSK, glow put equal amount of work into it
merciless-pity8989-89 [#37]i never said he was the only one carrying, i said it was mako and whoever else wanted to turn on their monitors that day. AND LMFAO, don’t even bring up lock/in, they didn’t even play any good teams until they reached top 4
just ignoring the C9 who dismantled PRX lol, DRX played so well against C9 they literally disbanded
Seo_w [#38]you clearly do not understand anything before 2023, let me make it clear that the whole calculated aggression playstyle everyone talks about VS/DRX actually comes from the era of MVP PK in csgo, where multiple iterations of their roster slowly refined that playstyle, obviously they never got much international success, but they still pushed at that times top teams like liquid to very close scorelines, so don't you dare credit everything to termi when solo, HSK, glow put equal amount of work into it
Where the playstyle originated has nothing to do when Termi is the one that intergrated into DRX as he is head coach of the team.That’s literally common knowledge. Also, stop starting away from the point,
merciless-pity8989-89 [#40]Where the playstyle originated has nothing to do when Termi is the one that intergrated into DRX as he is head coach of the team.That’s literally common knowledge. Also, stop starting away from the point,
"DRX were notorious for their playstyle, that’s why they were good(+MaKo). Guess who created that style, Termi" you said it yourself that termi is this great genius who single handedly created this style? old VS is literally just MVP PK's last csgo roster, termi never had to integrate anything, it was already there in the beginning lol fake fan please stop talking
Seo_w [#39]just ignoring the C9 who dismantled PRX lol, DRX played so well against C9 they literally disbanded
The same PRX that also got dismantled by DRX, all b4 they added something and immediately became the best team in Pacific. The same PRX that lost to Team Secret, a team that barely snuck into playoff bc they beat a much weaker PRX squad??? That PRX?
merciless-pity8989-89 [#42]The same PRX that also got dismantled by DRX, all b4 they added something and immediately became the best team in Pacific. The same PRX that lost to Team Secret, a team that barely snuck into playoff bc they beat a much weaker PRX squad??? That PRX?
again, another proof that you don't know anything before 2023, same PRX that actually got the asia pacific region closest to a title 2 years before GENG could, same PRX that went to all 5 maps vs prime FPX after beating FNC and Optic but what would you know lol
Seo_w [#41]"DRX were notorious for their playstyle, that’s why they were good(+MaKo). Guess who created that style, Termi" you said it yourself that termi is this great genius who single handedly created this style? old VS is literally just MVP PK's last csgo roster, termi never had to integrate anything, it was already there in the beginning lol fake fan please stop talking
Did you not previously say that termi was one of the people that created the style, or are you gonna backtrack again. Oh so you believe MaKo, BuZz, Rb, Stax, and Zest didn’t have to learn to play that way from someone(maybe their head coach???? idk) And you bring up old Vision Strikers is just another misdirection, cause i never once mentioned vision strikers, because we were literally talking about champs 22. You keep trying to knowledge test, as if that even makes a point.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#42]The same PRX that also got dismantled by DRX, all b4 they added something and immediately became the best team in Pacific. The same PRX that lost to Team Secret, a team that barely snuck into playoff bc they beat a much weaker PRX squad??? That PRX?
please stop talking if you don't know anything and is a new player, I get you don't care about history and legacy of players and teams and only focuses about raw statistics and scorelines but it won't do good for you
Seo_w [#43]again, another proof that you don't know anything before 2023, same PRX that actually got the asia pacific region closest to a title 2 years before GENG could, same PRX that went to all 5 maps vs prime FPX after beating FNC and Optic but what would you know lol
Yeah, the same PRX that got grouped at champs. Just give it up, everyone knows that team peaked at copenhagen and was never the same until they signed something.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#46]Yeah, the same PRX that got grouped at champs. Just give it up, everyone knows that team peaked at copenhagen and was never the same until they signed something.
almost 2-0'd the liquid that was an actual decent team back in its time and would've easily made playoffs and a decent run if they didn't lose an overtime, obviously you never watched any of these games so you wouldn't know
Seo_w [#45]please stop talking if you don't know anything and is a new player, I get you don't care about history and legacy of players and teams and only focuses about raw statistics and scorelines but it won't do good for you
Yeah, funny cause at the end of the day. Zest, ended up on the worst team in Pacific. Rb on the worst team in China. T1 qualed to shanghai without stax and couldn’t qual to stage 2 playoffs with him. That history you cling on to, has proven time and time again to be nothing that special, at least termi knows that, because if that old roster remained, we would’ve been a mid table team. Also, look at you, wearing an spg flair while preaching about the history of DRX, shameless
Seo_w [#47]almost 2-0'd the liquid that was an actual decent team back in its time and would've easily made playoffs and a decent run if they didn't lose an overtime, obviously you never watched any of these games so you wouldn't know
quick: don’t look at stats or anything like that. Take a guess at who was PRX’s worst perming player in that series. You’d be surprised
merciless-pity8989-89 [#44]Did you not previously say that termi was one of the people that created the style, or are you gonna backtrack again. Oh so you believe MaKo, BuZz, Rb, Stax, and Zest didn’t have to learn to play that way from someone(maybe their head coach???? idk) And you bring up old Vision Strikers is just another misdirection, cause i never once mentioned vision strikers, because we were literally talking about champs 22. You keep trying to knowledge test, as if that even makes a point.
my brother, DRX is literally just VS, at least until 2024, what are you talking about? You said it yourself that termi created the DRX playstyle in valorant, when it's been the hard work of the korean csgo scene who included every relevant korean players back then at some point in its team, termi did not create it, it was a playstyle formed off of decades of korean counter strike
Seo_w [#50]my brother, DRX is literally just VS, at least until 2024, what are you talking about? You said it yourself that termi created the DRX playstyle in valorant, when it's been the hard work of the korean csgo scene who included every relevant korean players back then at some point in its team, termi did not create it, it was a playstyle formed off of decades of korean counter strike
For one, the word “created” can still
be used for valorant, if he was the head coach to first implement it into a new game with lots of diff feature different from csgo, it cannot be exactly the same as csgo, but somewhat as valorant’s iteration of that playstyle, implemented by TERMI. But even then, you keep trying to stray away from the point, it’s actually laughable that you still haven’t actually attacked the claim i made. do you even remember??
merciless-pity8989-89 [#48]Yeah, funny cause at the end of the day. Zest, ended up on the worst team in Pacific. Rb on the worst team in China. T1 qualed to shanghai without stax and couldn’t qual to stage 2 playoffs with him. That history you cling on to, has proven time and time again to be nothing that special, at least termi knows that, because if that old roster remained, we would’ve been a mid table team. Also, look at you, wearing an spg flair while preaching about the history of DRX, shameless
How can I like the DRX who's management lost them first the best asian team title in 2023, then even lost the best korean team's title in 2024? I would much prefer to watch shin prisa gaming who played a hard korean qualifiers before giving fans a great run at ascension
also since you're such a stat nerd, check Rb's stats in TEC and check stax's stats in T1, xcc troll so hard he would make Champions 2021 Rb look good
merciless-pity8989-89 [#51]For one, the word “created” can still
be used for valorant, if he was the head coach to first implement it into a new game with lots of diff feature different from csgo, it cannot be exactly the same as csgo, but somewhat as valorant’s iteration of that playstyle, implemented by TERMI. But even then, you keep trying to stray away from the point, it’s actually laughable that you still haven’t actually attacked the claim i made. do you even remember??
you talk nonsense to the point my head hurts from everything you say, how can someone be so wrong and be so confident? i wish i had your bravery in my CSAT exam
Seo_w [#52]How can I like the DRX who's management lost them first the best asian team title in 2023, then even lost the best korean team's title in 2024? I would much prefer to watch shin prisa gaming who played a hard korean qualifiers before giving fans a great run at ascension
also since you're such a stat nerd, check Rb's stats in TEC and check stax's stats in T1, xcc troll so hard he would make Champions 2021 Rb look good
for someone who just told me to stick to stats, it’s very ironic of you to tell me to look at stats of players. And also, i can really care less about the stats of players on teams that can’t qualify. Also, so you just gonna bandwagon to whatever to most successful korean team is. Yeah, alright buddy, be a glory hunter if you want, just don’t start trying to defend ex players of the team you stopped rooting for.
Seo_w [#53]you talk nonsense to the point my head hurts from everything you say, how can someone be so wrong and be so confident? i wish i had your bravery in my CSAT exam
this is what people say when they can’t think of the reasonable response but still wants to argue for the sake of winning an argument. Just pack it up already
merciless-pity8989-89 [#54]for someone who just told me to stick to stats, it’s very ironic of you to tell me to look at stats of players. And also, i can really care less about the stats of players on teams that can’t qualify. Also, so you just gonna bandwagon to whatever to most successful korean team is. Yeah, alright buddy, be a glory hunter if you want, just don’t start trying to defend ex players of the team you stopped rooting for.
sorry, I dont know if our cultures are different but usually people care more about players than actual organizations, same goes with League here, there is unfortunately nobody to root for in current DRX for me, while I've been watching Persia and Munchkin for a long time in overwatch and I'm happy he found his team in shin prisa gaming
Seo_w [#56]sorry, I dont know if our cultures are different but usually people care more about players than actual organizations, same goes with League here, there is unfortunately nobody to root for in current DRX for me, while I've been watching Persia and Munchkin for a long time in overwatch and I'm happy he found his team in shin prisa gaming
Here my viewpoint, it very simple, i care about the players, the players on the team. If a player leaves, i wish them well but i don’t care after the leave, i just become a fan of whoever replaces that player(MaKo is the exception). Fan culture is different in diff cultures i get it.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#58]Here my viewpoint, it very simple, i care about the players, the players on the team. If a player leaves, i wish them well but i don’t care after the leave, i just become a fan of whoever replaces that player(MaKo is the exception). Fan culture is different in diff cultures i get it.
it seems more like you root for teams than players then, I apologize for getting heated but in my views what termi did (mostly in 2023) was just very unforgivable as a fan , if he did these things in a LoL team he would be very obviously criticized but I only see korean forums criticize him, not even roster move too, just the fact he didnt call much timeouts when stax needed him or his terrible map vetoes (leaving fracture vs EG at champs)
zyonick [#18]It's same for fpx.good test with gen g drx firepower & fpx brainrot playstyle..
fpx still has the 4 players from last year no?
yellow_donkey [#60]fpx still has the 4 players from last year no?
they also have the goat now (zixuan)
merciless-pity8989-89 [#48]Yeah, funny cause at the end of the day. Zest, ended up on the worst team in Pacific. Rb on the worst team in China. T1 qualed to shanghai without stax and couldn’t qual to stage 2 playoffs with him. That history you cling on to, has proven time and time again to be nothing that special, at least termi knows that, because if that old roster remained, we would’ve been a mid table team. Also, look at you, wearing an spg flair while preaching about the history of DRX, shameless
tbh i dont think they are "washed" or bad bad now, but that roster change was so much needed. I've been watching them since the first strike but damn some fresh start was needed after 2023 man. sadge. I read the entire shit and honestly, you got some good points man
Seo_w [#56]sorry, I dont know if our cultures are different but usually people care more about players than actual organizations, same goes with League here, there is unfortunately nobody to root for in current DRX for me, while I've been watching Persia and Munchkin for a long time in overwatch and I'm happy he found his team in shin prisa gaming
tbh most people support the team more than the players. the actual fans of the team. can't really say you 'root' for a team when u are just ready to hop onto a different team.
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