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mickey mouse criteria

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#1
BulkyLettuce
  1. single elimination (rewards the luckiest team, not the most consistent. This is why 99.99% of VCT tourneys are double elimination)
  2. start of franchising (new teams, new players, teams like OPTIC who made grand finals of champions the year before couldn't participate excluding one of the best teams in the world at the time)
  3. included every franchise team, making it an invitational (NO ONE HAD TO QUALIFY FOR THIS EVENT making it the only VCT tourney that was an invitational so teams like DFM and MIBR participated in it resulting in free wins and horrible competitive level of play)
  4. riot games themselves admitted it was mickey mouse (they said it was a one time event exclusively for the start of franchising and will never hold anything like it again because they know it was mickey mouse)
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LordItachi
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  1. Won by Fnatic or Sentinels.
    -by idiots who can't comprehend that a popular team can actually be just good not always overhyped.
#7
teilwal
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all sen wins happen to be mickey wins but not all mickey wins are sen wins

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BulkyLettuce
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every SEN win teams had to actually qualify to the event, it wasnt a invitational

#3
tserc
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LOCK//IN wasn't a mickey mouse tournament tho...........

#4
zhongZHI
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lock in wasnt mickey mouse. i only really think 8 team events like madrid are even worthy of it cuz every team has a new roster 8 teams really isnt enough cuz u its more easy to fluke in 8 teams than 16

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BulkyLettuce
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at least you actually had to qualify for madrid, lock in was an INVITATIONAL LOL

also that means every start of the year masters will be "mickey mouse" because they will keep that 8 team format, making Bangkok already mickey mouse!

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zhongZHI
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yea 8 team format is ass not enough teams. and start of year teams kinda fluky like kc and stuff

#8
BulkyLettuce
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yea no, im not for calling every start of the year masters a mickey mouse

#9
zhongZHI
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im not even saying it is im just saying its the one with the most merit lol.

#10
BulkyLettuce
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the mickey mouse is the single elim invitational, 99.9% of VCT international tourney's had qualifiers making the 0.1% one a mickey mouse

#12
zhongZHI
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dont u remember the kick off tournament? that kinda helps my argument

#13
BulkyLettuce
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VCT international tourney

#14
teilwal
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Kickoff is a vct tournament with international teams

#15
BulkyLettuce
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can you link me the tourney in vlr

#18
cameran
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nah madrid was still micky if we had people like kc qualling, as well as prx + loud making playoffs lmaooo

#16
kanyefan4238173
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This is dumb. A double elim bracket is not to eliminate luck. At least not for the eventual winner

trying to diminish the efforts of the winner of a single elim event is straight up stupid

Argentina wasn’t lucky they just won
Brazil haven’t been lucky a lot they just won a lot
And if these teams were lucky or benefited from the format, then so did the winner of double elimination brackets in any other competition

Double elim format is more for the prize pool and to get more games in rather than to eliminate luck. In a game like valorant where there are Strats to be anti’d throwing in more losers brackets doesn’t necessarily eliminate luck

It’s for prize pool in the sense that a team can be eliminated by the best team in quarters and get 10k for it but they are actually the second best team itw and would have got 50k with a different draw. A double elimination bracket only removes luck for the teams that don’t win

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Froggy0_0
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any tournament won by apac or china

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