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ElBarco News (Thursday)

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Congo1

Will Update as stream goes along.

100% Confirmed rosters so far: FNC, KC, TH, and FUT

Flickless to TL now likely not happening.

DERKE to GiantX talks have died down

Vitality talking to Derke and jampii

FNC still refusing to sell Derke to vitality at this stage. Currently they prefer to keep him in contract jail on the bench. Bitches be scared.

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bro i hope to see that Q on kr1stal

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Mortadelo
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Ryukzerr [#2]

bro i hope to see that Q on kr1stal

I'd be happy to, we need him in EMEA and TL is his only hope

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just need him to confirm kadavra

say m8 started a gofundme for xeus or izzy and we good

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Mortadelo [#3]

I'd be happy to, we need him in EMEA and TL is his only hope

Fax, it just makes the pain less in my heart man we already got a shit roster lets not fumble Kr1stal lmfao

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gamergirl [#4]

just need him to confirm kadavra

say m8 started a gofundme for xeus or izzy and we good

gonna be M8 Filu bro

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gamergirl [#4]

just need him to confirm kadavra

say m8 started a gofundme for xeus or izzy and we good

Kadavra has >90%

Confirmation will probably come from anonimotum

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Mortadelo [#6]

gonna be M8 Filu bro

nasty shit

we want izzy he plays neon and raze

we dont need another niche duelist merchant like filu who just farms iso

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https://www.twitch.tv/elbarcoth?lang=it

stream btw

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Congo1 [#7]

Kadavra has >90%

Confirmation will probably come from anonimotum

Although I'm not sure if Anonimotum reports a contract renewals, I suppose he does? But I can't recall any cases

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Congo1 [#7]

Kadavra has >90%

Confirmation will probably come from anonimotum

went from 5 french to 1 </3

atleast its my fav kadavra

natank the TRAITOR can go play with koalabot on navi

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gamergirl [#8]

nasty shit

we want izzy he plays neon and raze

we dont need another niche duelist merchant like filu who just farms iso

actually filu is really good but i really hope m8 isnt gonna be playing iso lmfao

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Congo1
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Bump 1

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Ryukzerr
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Kr1stal happening god is good

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Mortadelo [#10]

Although I'm not sure if Anonimotum reports a contract renewals, I suppose he does? But I can't recall any cases

I don’t know if he does, but sheep esports for sure will. They did it for ze1sh

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F for Flickless, like I get not going for even more (less proven) t2 with this kind of roster, but still a shame
Hope he gets a shot in the future

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Ryukzerr [#14]

Kr1stal happening god is good

they haven't said that yet xD

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Mortadelo [#17]

they haven't said that yet xD

i mean its likely they only trialed kr1stal for that spot its pretty clear they were deciding on the two.

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They said they believe KOI has chosen a different duelist than Kamo and Kamo doesn't really wanna play there. But they didn't sound very confident. TL is the most likely destination.

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Ryukzerr [#18]

i mean its likely they only trialed kr1stal for that spot its pretty clear they were deciding on the two.

I can bet 1000000$ no kr1stal

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Ryukzerr [#18]

i mean its likely they only trialed kr1stal for that spot its pretty clear they were deciding on the two.

They've only tried him out that we know of. Those are the tryouts we know of not all of the ones they've done

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Mortadelo [#19]

They said they believe KOI has chosen a different duelist than Kamo and Kamo doesn't really wanna play there. But they didn't sound very confident. TL is the most likely destination.

o no not again for KOI (unless they actually chose this time)

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Mortadelo [#17]

they haven't said that yet xD

They are stalling sooo much today

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Mortadelo [#21]

They've only tried him out that we know of. Those are the tryouts we know of not all of the ones they've done

i mean if they can pull out an even better player id be even more happy lol

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Congo1 [#23]

They are stalling sooo much today

they're giving info that doesn't reflect on the sheet, like contexts and stuff. They're about to give a big one

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Targu1n [#22]

o no not again for KOI (unless they actually chose this time)

I don't know if they chose someone else because Kamo doesn't want them or cause they actually chose xD

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Mortadelo [#19]

They said they believe KOI has chosen a different duelist than Kamo and Kamo doesn't really wanna play there. But they didn't sound very confident. TL is the most likely destination.

I remember Kamo said on the stream that Gorilla didn't shake his hand after the match, i think they don`t like each other

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Mortadelo [#26]

I don't know if they chose someone else because Kamo doesn't want them or cause they actually chose xD

Considering Kamos position on the market i think it is the former

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googa_ [#27]

I remember Kamo said on the stream that Gorilla didn't shake his hand after the match, i think they don`t like each other

Didn't know that. Barbar also tried to bench him mid season last year so I don't blame Kamo

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Mortadelo [#26]

I don't know if they chose someone else because Kamo doesn't want them or cause they actually chose xD

all respect to filu cause I think hes great (unbiased to find the ex dach player great ik) but something tells me its the former

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They said GX is not an option for Derke anymore but that that doesn't guarantee VIT Derke either

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Vitality trolled by cutting cender, they will regret it

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gold2peak [#32]

Vitality trolled by cutting cender, they will regret it

they haven't brother

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Mortadelo [#33]

they haven't brother

Not yet

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Congo1 [#34]

Not yet

well FNC fucking refuses to sell them Derke and I think that means cender stays

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Mortadelo [#35]

well FNC fucking refuses to sell them Derke and I think that means cender stays

So they'll just keep derke on the bench?

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gold2peak [#36]

So they'll just keep derke on the bench?

i mean, hes finding another team if not vitality, fnatic is not wrong, they just dont want vitality to buy the best team of all time

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Vitality talking to Derke and jampii

so sayf smoker igl is real?

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gold2peak [#36]

So they'll just keep derke on the bench?

They said they would rather do that than sell him to Vitality

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mxchelxz [#37]

i mean, hes finding another team if not vitality, fnatic is not wrong, they just dont want vitality to buy the best team of all time

sure but apparently derke wants to go there and fnc wont let him and thats pretty much jailing him taking in count they announced him as restricted free agent but arent really letting him go even tho vit is paying more than any other if im not mistaken (ofc nrg is the exception but they stopped offering since they got mada)

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koromast [#38]

Vitality talking to Derke and jampii

so sayf smoker igl is real?

It's been for a while

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mxchelxz [#37]

i mean, hes finding another team if not vitality, fnatic is not wrong, they just dont want vitality to buy the best team of all time

Eu and na teams have finished building rosters, vitality is like the only team left that makes sense, unless you think derke will go to pacific or china

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAH U FLAMED HIM FOR JAMPII AND ITS TRUE

HAHAHAH VITALITY SUPERTEAM DEAD BEFORE IT EVEN STARTED

M8 stocks up!

thanks goked for staying away from that bum

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Add #39

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Mortadelo [#39]

They said they would rather do that than sell him to Vitality

That's definitely a way to treat your player

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gold2peak [#45]

That's definitely a way to treat your player

lol he gives them 3 years as the most consistent duelist itw, doesnt complain about his twerking IGL

gets replaced by a t2 player who is at best a tier below him and just a year younger, and they still cockblock him

YIKES shitnatic haram org

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gamergirl [#43]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH U FLAMED HIM FOR JAMPII AND ITS TRUE

HAHAHAH VITALITY SUPERTEAM DEAD BEFORE IT EVEN STARTED

M8 stocks up!

thanks goked for staying away from that bum

blud

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gamergirl [#43]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH U FLAMED HIM FOR JAMPII AND ITS TRUE

HAHAHAH VITALITY SUPERTEAM DEAD BEFORE IT EVEN STARTED

M8 stocks up!

thanks goked for staying away from that bum

jamppi is good idk whats with the jamppi hate, its so forced

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gamergirl [#46]

lol he gives them 3 years as the most consistent duelist itw, doesnt complain about his twerking IGL

gets replaced by a t2 player who is at best a tier below him and just a year younger, and they still cockblock him

YIKES shitnatic haram org

Not only is it extremely disrespectful to derke but also if they don't sell him this year he'll be a free agent next year

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koromast [#40]

sure but apparently derke wants to go there and fnc wont let him and thats pretty much jailing him taking in count they announced him as restricted free agent but arent really letting him go even tho vit is paying more than any other if im not mistaken (ofc nrg is the exception but they stopped offering since they got mada)

yes, its jailing, not pretty much is literally JAIL

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gold2peak [#42]

Eu and na teams have finished building rosters, vitality is like the only team left that makes sense, unless you think derke will go to pacific or china

its Derke, even if he gets benched on 1st split he will eventually get pickdup
he got offers from apac (dk from china)
but idk if he wants to play there

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DERKE to GiantX talks have died down

so less likely it’ll happen? damn it’ll actually suck if he stays benched

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gold2peak [#49]

Not only is it extremely disrespectful to derke but also if they don't sell him this year he'll be a free agent next year

Fuckers. Now i am praying on their down Fall

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Why are FNC refusing to sell to VIT?

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koromast [#48]

jamppi is good idk whats with the jamppi hate, its so forced

so i do this thing call watch the game, not just watch stats so yeah i can prob tell you jamppi isnt allat

misplaces smokes/flashes, is a good teammate tbf, bad duelist, used to have a good awp, pretty average rifler

just not the player youd want, and you really shouldnt rely on sayf igling unless you want workplace violations called on him

soulcas was ass for TL but atleast he had good flashes jampii was just buns

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Srathens1 [#54]

Why are FNC refusing to sell to VIT?

it will cause them regional struggles

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Srathens1 [#54]

Why are FNC refusing to sell to VIT?

Because they really don't like em xD

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Srathens1 [#54]

Why are FNC refusing to sell to VIT?

theyre going to hardball VIT and GX until those teams find other players and finalize them, then lower derkes buyout to act like they made it possible for him

disgusting team lol

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Srathens1 [#54]

Why are FNC refusing to sell to VIT?

Because vitality would have the strongest roster in valorant history. Thats why

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Srathens1 [#54]

Why are FNC refusing to sell to VIT?

quality of vits players are very high, trexx sayf and less have very good firepower and mechanics. on top of that derke had a great second half of the year in performance and fnatic doesn’t want to make their regional opponent even more deadly

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gamergirl [#55]

so i do this thing call watch the game, not just watch stats so yeah i can prob tell you jamppi isnt allat

misplaces smokes/flashes, is a good teammate tbf, bad duelist, used to have a good awp, pretty average rifler

just not the player youd want, and you really shouldnt rely on sayf igling unless you want workplace violations called on him

soulcas was ass for TL but atleast he had good flashes jampii was just buns

so you just a soulcas glazer and you mad liquid cutted him because sayf and jampii were playing way better than him on liquid days i get it

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koromast [#61]

so you just a soulcas glazer and you mad liquid cutted him because sayf and jampii were playing way better than him on liquid days i get it

soulcas is ass too i just respect people who are good at their role

jamppi is not that they shoulda both been dropped so sayf stayed, along with redgar

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gamergirl [#62]

soulcas is ass too i just respect people who are good at their role

jamppi is not that they shoulda both been dropped so sayf stayed, along with redgar

im p sure sayf didnt want to play with redgar tho

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koromast [#63]

im p sure sayf didnt want to play with redgar tho

yeah im saying redgar shoulda left

ITS WTV IDC M8 dorke incoming

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ariLMFAO [#56]

it will cause them regional struggles

True but Derke would be an upgrade to every team in EMEA, why even sell him if they're so scared of him upgrading a team.

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Srathens1 [#65]

True but Derke would be an upgrade to every team in EMEA, why even sell him if they're so scared of him upgrading a team.

that's the thing, they ain't selling

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Have always been a fan of FNC but this is just sad to watch. Not only are they doing Derke dirty by replacing him with a player that is probably not going to be better than him, but then they also sabotage his upcoming season. I cant support an org like this.

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this FNC stuff will literally turn me from a fan into a hater

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Yuniee44 [#67]

Have always been a fan of FNC but this is just sad to watch. Not only are they doing Derke dirty by replacing him with a player that is probably not going to be better than him, but then they also sabotage his upcoming season. I cant support an org like this.

yep and even tho its business after all its Derke who has done so much for the org and pretty much made them relevant...

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patuj [#69]

yep and even tho its business after all its Derke who has done so much for the org and pretty much made them relevant...

Yep. 2021 was literally Derke and friends. 2022 was Derke and Alfajer. 2023 He won them 2 titles....

They should build a statue for him out of gold and give him a ride to wherever the fuck he wants to go.

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Congo1 [#70]

Yep. 2021 was literally Derke and friends. 2022 was Derke and Alfajer. 2023 He won them 2 titles....

They should build a statue for him out of gold and give him a ride to wherever the fuck he wants to go.

Icebox 5th map vs LOUD, Derke is the only person alive on that discord call

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patuj [#69]

yep and even tho its business after all its Derke who has done so much for the org and pretty much made them relevant...

Even from a pure business standpoint, the PR disaster of keeping a superstar player on your bench because you want to increase your chance of winning cant be worth it. I just do not understand why they made a roster move when they are clearly anything but confident in their decision. It’s just spineless tbh. Also I’m sure that, if this is actually true, players like Leo will definitely think twice before resigning with this org. It just doesn’t make sense.

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Yuniee44 [#72]

Even from a pure business standpoint, the PR disaster of keeping a superstar player on your bench because you want to increase your chance of winning cant be worth it. I just do not understand why they made a roster move when they are clearly anything but confident in their decision. It’s just spineless tbh. Also I’m sure that, if this is actually true, players like Leo will definitely think twice before resigning with this org. It just doesn’t make sense.

Leo doesn’t need to re-sign, his contract ends in 2025

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TL should go for Derke unless Fnatic don't want to sell him to emea teams

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Is TL kr1stal happening?

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catNmouse [#73]

Leo doesn’t need to re-sign, his contract ends in 2025

Okay? And when his contract expires in 2025 fnatic will not try to re-sign him? What exactly is your point my brother

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Yuniee44 [#76]

Okay? And when his contract expires in 2025 fnatic will not try to re-sign him? What exactly is your point my brother

They won’t if he doesn’t wanna stay with them. One thing I’ll say about all this is that it definitely doesn’t make sense from an outsiders point of view to bench derke and sign kaajak after derkes performances

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catNmouse [#77]

They won’t if he doesn’t wanna stay with them. One thing I’ll say about all this is that it definitely doesn’t make sense from an outsiders point of view to bench derke and sign kaajak after derkes performances

I think you just missed my point then lol. Chances are players are going to be more hesitant to stay on a team after knowing they mistreated a player recently.

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Update According to UCAM's CEO Marco, FNC has received offers that between the buyout and Derke's first year salary were around 500K. So you guys have a number of reference

FNC has accepted them but Derke hasn't, he only wants VIT. So technically Derke isn't being forced on the bench, just forbidden from doing VIT. Idk if this is any better xD

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Mortadelo [#79]

Update According to UCAM's CEO Marco, FNC has received offers that between the buyout and Derke's first year salary were around 500K. So you guys have a number of reference

FNC has accepted them but Derke hasn't, he only wants VIT. So technically Derke isn't being forced on the bench, just forbidden from doing VIT. Idk if this is any better xD

…. please tell me this is not real

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catNmouse [#80]

…. please tell me this is not real

it very much is

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Mortadelo [#79]

Update According to UCAM's CEO Marco, FNC has received offers that between the buyout and Derke's first year salary were around 500K. So you guys have a number of reference

FNC has accepted them but Derke hasn't, he only wants VIT. So technically Derke isn't being forced on the bench, just forbidden from doing VIT. Idk if this is any better xD

Bro if i become derke, i fucking put this shit on x, so fnatic get flamed

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Mortadelo [#79]

Update According to UCAM's CEO Marco, FNC has received offers that between the buyout and Derke's first year salary were around 500K. So you guys have a number of reference

FNC has accepted them but Derke hasn't, he only wants VIT. So technically Derke isn't being forced on the bench, just forbidden from doing VIT. Idk if this is any better xD

Did NOT think FNATIC would be the Evil Geniuses of 2024. What the hell is this??

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cloudberry [#83]

Did NOT think FNATIC would be the Evil Geniuses of 2024. What the hell is this??

Well they're only forbidding 1 team, he can go anywhere else. If he ends up teamless is kinda his fault too

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cloudberry [#83]

Did NOT think FNATIC would be the Evil Geniuses of 2024. What the hell is this??

Ehh i would say it’s not even close, FNATIC is only the EG of 2024 when it comes to VIT. If leo was in this situation they wouldn’t allow him to go to vitality either

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catNmouse [#85]

Ehh i would say it’s not even close, FNATIC is only the EG of 2024 when it comes to VIT. If leo was in this situation they wouldn’t allow him to go to vitality either

That's fair tbh
^ Same response to you btw, Mortadelo

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cloudberry [#83]

Did NOT think FNATIC would be the Evil Geniuses of 2024. What the hell is this??

yeah what a plot twist

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