ElBarco Rostermania news (updated)

NEW UPDATES TODAY 1.10.
Will update as stream goes along

Kadavra confirmed for Gm8. new/current duelist trials filu, tomaszy, kamo

profek is likely to not find a team at all

Kamyk to Team Liquid close to a done deal. Flickless, Tomaszy and Kamo are potential options now/ are being considered.

New KOI trials: magnum, ; Kamo likely to leave. --> Koi is in trouble. multiple players ditched them for other orgs. Still haunted by mistakes of old ownership. unable to secure first options.

Noone wants to join KOI. They have to start completely new sets of tryouts 1 weeks before roster announcement date. Kamo has been "stolen" and Filu most likely will too.

now Zeish joined chat and is arguing for magnum to be signed to KOI lol:
"Magnum was staying 100% we just had an opportunity and if no one picks him its really A BIG TROLL he's one of the hardest worker i had in team"

feels like Spanish community is in disarray and very mad at KOI management. A lot of frustration and blame going around. Meltdown mode.

Light rumour of Famsii to apeks

BBL news! : Tryouts with Ruxic and Izzy

xeus situation getting more and more complicated. Running out of options and his buyout is still 105k

Todays Updates:
Navi Click fell through???! Meanwhile natank has signed
"happy has come in (the roster was built without him), Click is unlikely to end up in NAVI. Happy wants to explore other options, including in NA"

Tomaszy now also trialing for KOI

Μ8 roster looking decent ngl

correct, also mentioned profek is likely to not find a team at all

thank god they’re not getting rid of kadavra, watching m8 play made me puke because of how many winnable rounds they threw in stage 2 but kadavra is an insane player with great firepower he deserves a chance in t1

Mortadelo [#3]

correct, also mentioned profek is likely to not find a team at all

which is silly

Congo1 [#5]

which is silly

apparently his tryouts haven't gone as expected, idk

EW NOT TOMASSSZY OR KAMNO

give us barca legend maniek id rather have a spanish player than kamo jesus

catNmouse [#4]

thank god they’re not getting rid of kadavra, watching m8 play made me puke because of how many winnable rounds they threw in stage 2 but kadavra is an insane player with great firepower he deserves a chance in t1

fully agree

Mortadelo [#6]

apparently his tryouts haven't gone as expected, idk

These fuckign tryout are gonna make me lose my mind eventually

gamergirl [#7]

EW NOT TOMASSSZY OR KAMNO

give us barca legend maniek id rather have a spanish player than kamo jesus

maniek is also polish lmao

Huitzilopochtli [#10]

maniek is also polish lmao

even more reason to get him hes not even spanish

any info about liquid?

Huitzilopochtli [#10]

maniek is also polish lmao

polish MFs are a tier 2 EMEA mafia man its insane

loneliness [#12]

any info about liquid?

just updated. kamyk likely joins

gamergirl [#7]

EW NOT TOMASSSZY OR KAMNO

give us barca legend maniek id rather have a spanish player than kamo jesus

Tomaszy is one of the best options left in senti and duel. He is considered by multiple teams.

bump cause good work

lmao poor koi

They just said no one wants to join KOI and they're gonna do new tryouts including Kamo

Can anyone tell me what’s going on with KOI? What’s the history behind their ownership and why doesn’t anyone wanna join KOI?

Jivko [#18]

They just said no one wants to join KOI and they're gonna do new tryouts including Kamo

we typed this at the same time XD

catNmouse [#19]

Can anyone tell me what’s going on with KOI? What’s the history behind their ownership and why doesn’t anyone wanna join KOI?

old ownership was ass

Ok Koi can be the savior and go for Lime now, right?
not desperate at all here.... SOMEONE SIGN LIME FFS

ah hell nah koi thats devastating

Jivko [#21]

old ownership was ass

How bad did they treat their players?

catNmouse [#19]

Can anyone tell me what’s going on with KOI? What’s the history behind their ownership and why doesn’t anyone wanna join KOI?

They used to be fused with Rogue who are in LEC. But rogue has legendarily shit management so they had an ugly long divorce that made it unclear who has to pay for what and who makes decisions so they were unable to build god roster.

Plus theres still peopl contacting old management when trying to get in contact with KOI. There is stll confusions and outdated perceptions causing chaos and avaoidance

catNmouse [#19]

Can anyone tell me what’s going on with KOI? What’s the history behind their ownership and why doesn’t anyone wanna join KOI?

No one wants to join because they've been shit for a long time and they don't believe in their capabilities

Congo1 [#25]

They used to be fused with Rogue who are in LEC. But rogue has legendarily shit management so they had an ugly long divorce that made it unclear who has to pay for what and who makes decisions so they were unable to build god roster.

Plus theres still peopl contacting old management when trying to get in contact with KOI. There is stll confusions and outdated perceptions causing chaos and avaoidance

thank you, that makes sense now

catNmouse [#24]

How bad did they treat their players?

Nothing of that kind brother. They just had a very unfortunate first season and then physically couldn't sign anyone the second year so they've just sucked for too long which makes players doubt them

Targu1n [#22]

Ok Koi can be the savior and go for Lime now, right?
not desperate at all here.... SOMEONE SIGN LIME FFS

brother let it go

Mortadelo [#28]

Nothing of that kind brother. They just had a very unfortunate first season and then physically couldn't sign anyone the second year so they've just sucked for too long which makes players doubt them

ooh okay yeah I see why people are skeptical of KOI; in the players eyes they don’t care enough to improve their roster and record in VCT

Does this mean flyuh might be joining EG instead of KOI?

Targu1n [#22]

Ok Koi can be the savior and go for Lime now, right?
not desperate at all here.... SOMEONE SIGN LIME FFS

would be a banger signing and hes incredibly good, best stats in Dach and sooo underrated also insane agent pool -> can play duelists (Jett, Raze, Yoru) on a high level, esp Yoru and also all Sentinels

vollizie [#31]

Does this mean flyuh might be joining EG instead of KOI?

nah Koi got more bag than EG

Mortadelo [#29]

brother let it go

never!
looks like ill be dying on the lime hype train this year though x.x

catNmouse [#30]

ooh okay yeah I see why people are skeptical of KOI; in the players eyes they don’t care enough to improve their roster and record in VCT

Yeah but it's not true, they've just been unlucky for the most part really. The first roster was not suppose to collapse like that, it was objectively a good project, and all of KOI players have always had good words towards the club. Barbar doesn't owe shit to KOI and still tweeted how good of an org Koi is the other day

vollizie [#31]

Does this mean flyuh might be joining EG instead of KOI?

Nah that one is a done deal. The core Flyuh, sheydos and grubinho stands

vollizie [#31]

Does this mean flyuh might be joining EG instead of KOI?

Don't think flyuh would have done that yesterday if he were

oh god pls i pray dont sign magnum pls i wont my boy Flyuh to succeed give him good players plss

vollizie [#31]

Does this mean flyuh might be joining EG instead of KOI?

i dont know what they did to convince flyuh but they need more of it to sing 2 more players

Nah Zeish if he doing it to troll he he’s an evil man kicking koi while they down

Rocky54 [#40]

Nah Zeish if he doing it to troll he he’s an evil man kicking koi while they down

He's not doing it to troll man. KC has Magnum in very high esteem and all of the reports were pointing at magnum staying (KC fans were mad af)

But hearing his comms he seems genuinely good. That being said I don't think he's an option for KOI

Mortadelo [#41]

He's not doing it to troll man. KC has Magnum in very high esteem and all of the reports were pointing at magnum staying (KC fans were mad af)

But hearing his comms he seems genuinely good. That being said I don't think he's an option for KOI

thank god. KC got saved. Neither would you want magnum to igl over saadhak nor would you want magnum to senti over elite.

Magum is fine. but you should want more. he is more like a Koi transfer than a KC one. he fits the midtable calibre

Congo1 [#42]

thank god. KC got saved. Neither would you want magnum to igl over saadhak nor would you want magnum to senti over elite.

Magum is fine. but you should want more. he is more like a Koi transfer than a KC one. he fits the midtable calibre

Magnum as a player is fine. He should just stay away from igl'ing

Tittan puto calvo

any info about BBL?

Cheavez [#45]

any info about BBL?

No. BBL is mostly dark.

Cheavez [#45]

any info about BBL?

BBL is waiting for other EU teams to recruit Turkish players
they will build a roster with the leftovers 👍

Cheavez [#45]

any info about BBL?

They said they did for the first time ever but they're stuck shitting on KOI xD

Mortadelo [#48]

They said they did for the first time ever but they're stuck shitting on KOI xD

bro they are yapping soooo much. what can they possibly talk so much about

cool rumors

Congo1 [#49]

bro they are yapping soooo much. what can they possibly talk so much about

They went through all stages of grief with KOI

Cheavez [#45]

any info about BBL?

BBL news just came in!

Congo1 [#52]

BBL news just came in!

you might not be understanding but they said xeus situation getting more and more complicated. Running out of options and his buyout is still 105k

Wtf did koi management do if players are so scared of joining?

Mortadelo [#53]

you might not be understanding but they said xeus situation getting more and more complicated. Running out of options and his buyout is still 105k

Man this t2 teams

Mortadelo [#53]

you might not be understanding but they said xeus situation getting more and more complicated. Running out of options and his buyout is still 105k

I have been suspecting for a while that eternal fire wants to keep the roster to ascend next year. They have been investing a lot since joining.

Rocky54 [#55]

Man this t2 teams

EF have a lot of money from their other investments; 105k is a ridiculous amount but not all that surprising because they know he's a hot prospect. at least bbl are finally alive it seems

shadowvlr [#57]

EF have a lot of money from their other investments; 105k is a ridiculous amount but not all that surprising because they know he's a hot prospect. at least bbl are finally alive it seems

It is surprising because they're not gonna sell him

gold2peak [#54]

Wtf did koi management do if players are so scared of joining?

first season fell short of expectations, second season they were screwed over by transfer window and couldn't get who they wanted. from an outside perspective, players are probably skeptical of how their year will go with KOI, plus there's a lot of unknowns regarding new coaching staff

catNmouse [#4]

thank god they’re not getting rid of kadavra, watching m8 play made me puke because of how many winnable rounds they threw in stage 2 but kadavra is an insane player with great firepower he deserves a chance in t1

Goatavra

Idk couldn't Koi just go for some of the Dach players?
Like Lime, Anguist, DaviH, Fizzy, Alorante would be really good players to pick up. It honestly feels like they are just bad at scouting players and not trying to increase the player pool.

They're smoking hard but they said 50% chance GX Derke

Mortadelo [#58]

It is surprising because they're not gonna sell him

unless some turkish billionaire who no one knew was a shareholder in BBL made a generous donation

C310 [#61]

Idk couldn't Koi just go for some of the Dach players?
Like Lime, Anguist, DaviH, Fizzy, Alorante would be really good players to pick up. It honestly feels like they are just bad at scouting players and not trying to increase the player pool.

No other team wants those players either, it has a reason

Mortadelo [#62]

They're smoking hard but they said 50% chance GX Derke

Because of cloud i assume

Mortadelo [#64]

No other team wants those players either, it has a reason

Do they have that much of a buyout? it really seems weird since they are objectively really good players

shadowvlr [#65]

Because of cloud i assume

Yeah Derke would be open to it. And if FNC still doesn't want to sell to VIT, GX could be a good middle ground both accept. Derke gets a good project in EMEA and FNC doesn't help create super monster VIT

C310 [#66]

Do they have that much of a buyout? it really seems weird since they are objectively really good players

CGN buyouts are notoriously high

Mortadelo [#64]

No other team wants those players either, it has a reason

Also they could try to get some of the Acend players since they aren't contracted anymore right?
Musashi, Alive and the others aren't that bad especially when Musashi doesn't have to igl.

C310 [#66]

Do they have that much of a buyout? it really seems weird since they are objectively really good players

Anguist does, DaviH I suppose too but he's also got comm issues apparently. And Fizzy alorante and lime are bortherline tier 1 talent, there's better options for the teams + might have buyouts aswell

Mortadelo [#67]

Yeah Derke would be open to it. And if FNC still doesn't want to sell to VIT, GX could be a good middle ground both accept. Derke gets a good project in EMEA and FNC doesn't help create super monster VIT

i mean i would prefer GX derke too tbh, i want sayf on duelist not igl smokes

shadowvlr [#68]

CGN buyouts are notoriously high

Honestly fuck CGN, they are destroying the careers of their players, having Benny as a perma player and wasting the other players career.

C310 [#69]

Also they could try to get some of the Acend players since they aren't contracted anymore right?
Musashi, Alive and the others aren't that bad especially when Musashi doesn't have to igl.

Same, bortherline tier 1 talent but teams think they have better options

Mortadelo [#73]

Same, bortherline tier 1 talent but teams think they have better options

I mean if Koi can't get the players that they want and ngl I don't see how Filu and Kamo are better than Lime no front, they will need to definitely consider other options. At this point just pick up some Turkish players without a buyout.

C310 [#74]

I mean if Koi can't get the players that they want and ngl I don't see how Filu and Kamo are better than Lime no front, they will need to definitely consider other options. At this point just pick up some Turkish players without a buyout.

Lime was statistically the best duelist in Dach last split, Kamo was statistically the best duelist in EMEA last split. I don't think it's comparable. kamo was very very good

And yeah the solution might be some turks or some we don't expect

Mortadelo [#67]

Yeah Derke would be open to it. And if FNC still doesn't want to sell to VIT, GX could be a good middle ground both accept. Derke gets a good project in EMEA and FNC doesn't help create super monster VIT

what? he'd rather play for GX than NRG?

Mortadelo [#75]

Lime was statistically the best duelist in Dach last split, Kamo was statistically the best duelist in EMEA last split. I don't think it's comparable. kamo was very very good

And yeah the solution might be some turks or some we don't expect

I think you mean Filu since Kamo was in tier1 and wasn't that great anyways, Lime also has just some of the biggest flexibility of any duelist players in Tier2 you literally could put him on any role and he will frag out.
Anyways Koi themselves just make it harder to get a good team and are way too focused on getting "hyped" players instead of building a good cohesive roster that makes sense, they don't have that much bargain power compared to the other tier1 orgs and just should trial more underrated and less popular options.

Madvillainy [#76]

what? he'd rather play for GX than NRG?

Well can't say for sure if that happened but could be. Maybe he just really didn't want to leave and be that far away from home

xcalvo me la come entera

bbl has sooo much potential bro turks r insane

profek :(

Mortadelo [#78]

Well can't say for sure if that happened but could be. Maybe he just really didn't want to leave and be that far away from home

I mean he could have done an ardiis at least. Go for a year, steal the bag and come back

Mortadelo [#70]

Anguist does, DaviH I suppose too but he's also got comm issues apparently. And Fizzy alorante and lime are bortherline tier 1 talent, there's better options for the teams + might have buyouts aswell

I dont think the comms issues are based on anything concrete
All CGN players have been alleged to have comms issues due to their time on cgn

The team is the meme team in DACH so things do just get blown out proportions a tad bit. Its fun to make fun of them for their play-style and its easy to call them out since the comms videos were laughably bad (from a comms standpoint), without ever having to worry about it getting personal since they win anyways

But that just ignores that ascension ever happened. CGN grew so much by the time groups rolled around and ended as one of the most effective anti teams. Theyre not exactly the same team we were making fun about for the past 2 years anymore.

relegate KOI.

C310 [#77]

I think you mean Filu since Kamo was in tier1 and wasn't that great anyways, Lime also has just some of the biggest flexibility of any duelist players in Tier2 you literally could put him on any role and he will frag out.
Anyways Koi themselves just make it harder to get a good team and are way too focused on getting "hyped" players instead of building a good cohesive roster that makes sense, they don't have that much bargain power compared to the other tier1 orgs and just should trial more underrated and less popular options.

No, I very much meant Kamo. He was great last year brother

Targu1n [#83]

I dont think the comms issues are based on anything concrete
All CGN players have been alleged to have comms issues due to their time on cgn

The team is the meme team in DACH so things do just get blown out proportions a tad bit. Its fun to make fun of them for their play-style and its easy to call them out since the comms videos were laughably bad (from a comms standpoint), without ever having to worry about it getting personal since they win anyways

But that just ignores that ascension ever happened. CGN grew so much by the time groups rolled around and ended as one of the most effective anti teams. Theyre not exactly the same team we were making fun about for the past 2 years anymore.

it's not about CGN tho. DaviH comm issues date way earlier than that, he already had that problem before. At first it was his English I suppose that's gotten better but I still hear people say it and seen him play a couple try hard 10 man games and bro was literally muted. He'll make it eventually, my point here is there very much might be issues with players we are not aware of

Congo1 [#9]

These fuckign tryout are gonna make me lose my mind eventually

guys chill hes pretty much confirmed to GIANTX

vlr_homeofesports [#87]

guys chill hes pretty much confirmed to GIANTX

I hope so. I havent heard anything in that regard yet though.

C310 [#77]

I think you mean Filu since Kamo was in tier1 and wasn't that great anyways, Lime also has just some of the biggest flexibility of any duelist players in Tier2 you literally could put him on any role and he will frag out.
Anyways Koi themselves just make it harder to get a good team and are way too focused on getting "hyped" players instead of building a good cohesive roster that makes sense, they don't have that much bargain power compared to the other tier1 orgs and just should trial more underrated and less popular options.

Check the stats. Kamo is good

No Scream?

Congo1 [#89]

Check the stats. Kamo is good

yeah kamo is good but when ur competition is derke its hard to say you prefer kamo over others

gamergirl [#91]

yeah kamo is good but when ur competition is derke its hard to say you prefer kamo over others

But he's comparing him to Filu and Lime not Derke

SidEx07 [#90]

No Scream?

Doesnt look like it unfortunately.

Mortadelo [#3]

correct, also mentioned profek is likely to not find a team at all

So Profeek prefers to be in T2 rather than joining KOI?💀
I mean as per the current situation of KOI, he should be a blind pick for em

kamisavitar [#94]

So Profeek prefers to be in T2 rather than joining KOI?💀
I mean as per the current situation of KOI, he should be a blind pick for em

No, that hasn’t been said anywhere, they said no team has decided to go for profek after tryouts

Congo1 [#93]

Doesnt look like it unfortunately.

Bro i just want to see my man 1tap again with a proper team and igl😭🥺

bump for today updates

Congo1 [#97]

bump for today updates

atleast mortadelo can take a break from summarizing lmao, thanks for the updates. not signing click is an odd move

catNmouse [#98]

atleast mortadelo can take a break from summarizing lmao, thanks for the updates. not signing click is an odd move

Yeah no I appreciate it, he's done a great job so far

105k is half of the actual buyout, he is being good there 🤣

Oh no the Dach curse got another one
f for click

wykes [#100]

105k is half of the actual buyout, he is being good there 🤣

it's not

Mortadelo [#102]

it's not

im 99% sure it is
but im not going to argue it LOL

wykes [#103]

im 99% sure it is
but im not going to argue it LOL

Fair enough, but I've heard around 100k from different good sources and anonimotum said there were barely any clauses over 200k in this market

I respect your part tho

Mortadelo [#104]

Fair enough, but I've heard around 100k from different good sources and anonimotum said there were barely any clauses over 200k in this market

I respect your part tho

even 100k seems high, I mean if you don't win a least one master you are at loss with the said 'talent'
riot need to up the cash prize or allows others organizers like ESL ... etc

Mortadelo [#104]

Fair enough, but I've heard around 100k from different good sources and anonimotum said there were barely any clauses over 200k in this market

I respect your part tho

you trust yours, I trust mine, fair from both sides😃
have a nice one :)

wykes [#106]

you trust yours, I trust mine, fair from both sides😃
have a nice one :)

fair

Targu1n [#101]

Oh no the Dach curse got another one
f for click

Click will play vct. Question is only where

Congo1 [#108]

Click will play vct. Question is only where

dont jinx it
imma have an aneurysm if gx falls through too

Mortadelo [#104]

Fair enough, but I've heard around 100k from different good sources and anonimotum said there were barely any clauses over 200k in this market

I respect your part tho

EF likes to play around with Xeus' buyout depending on the organization

BoDork [#110]

EF likes to play around with Xeus' buyout depending on the organization

it's looking like they will have to play around with him for one more year at this rate xD

You probably didn't catch it but basically the duelist spots are mostly gonna be filled with tomaszy/Filu/Kamo

m8 prioritizes Filu then tomaszy then kamo and TL the other way around first kamo then tomaszy then Filu

Mortadelo [#67]

Yeah Derke would be open to it. And if FNC still doesn't want to sell to VIT, GX could be a good middle ground both accept. Derke gets a good project in EMEA and FNC doesn't help create super monster VIT

Fuck man i really dont want to see Derke on GX.

Mortadelo [#112]

You probably didn't catch it but basically the duelist spots are mostly gonna be filled with tomaszy/Filu/Kamo

m8 prioritizes Filu then tomaszy then kamo and TL the other way around first kamo then tomaszy then Filu

Quick question dose Izzy have a buyout ?

BoDork [#110]

EF likes to play around with Xeus' buyout depending on the organization

how to destroy a player's career.exe sadly

Mortadelo [#111]

it's looking like they will have to play around with him for one more year at this rate xD

Don't wanna speculate but pretty sure that's what they want

Rocky54 [#114]

Quick question dose Izzy have a buyout ?

Don’t know that one

HAPPY IN NAVI ????
and he wants to try other options???
In NA ?
U SEE WHERE DIS IS GOING?

🐨noob