Wasn't a huge fan of Tenz in the beginning but he was truly a great player. SEN is kinda is nothing without him.
This offseason VCT shit ruined Valorant's future. Not as impressive anymore. 2025 will be okay but the hype won't be the same anymore.
Who will be the new Tenz of Valorant? I think it should be Aspas.
Either way Valorant will have a downfall and with franchise teams leaving the VCT scene, its already happening.
Nef0r0 [#2]you cannot decide who will be the face or the goat of the game, he comes naturally. Valorant has no s1mple, and it would benefit from having one
Aspas > TenZ
donkkomong [#3]Aspas > TenZ
tenz is the face of the game only in this english speaking part of the internet, which is the biggest part of the internet which kinda dictates who the bigger person is.
diffed [#6]Valorant is dying? What is bro yapping about?
casual overreaction, same happened incs for some time when s1mple left
ianceae [#9]forcing it? lmao
oh yeah fs
the opening of the champs theme song is literally from his play
Aayan [#12]oh yeah fs
the opening of the champs theme song is literally from his play
a player with several international appearances and viral highlights who finally became a world champion doesn't seem forced to me...
ianceae [#9]forcing it? lmao
They've been making him the main character for awhile. Putting him in a lot of promotional material, making Shanghai all about KangKang's story, the main character of the champs theme song, etc. He's able to back it up so he deserve the hype.
ianceae [#11]the strong need for VLR users to overreact to everything
Do not let this people get in politics/geopolitics.
They would have either anxiety crises or a heart attack.
ianceae [#13]a player with several international appearances and viral highlights who finally became a world champion doesn't seem forced to me...
EDG were invited to EA LCQ which qualified them to Champs 2022
They were invited to LOCK//IN
Invited to Masters Tokyo
Invited to Champs 2023
Then in 2024 Shanghai's theme was literally made around KK as #14 mentioned, things like his op pose were sent around by Riot.
Past that, China has been a weak region (not through their own fault), so EDG can experience diff them.
What does deserve credit is the run they went on in Champs though, that parts defo not forced. But you have to still admit that Riot have really been pushing KK to appeal to the Chinese audience, and that's not even necessarily a bad thing, but you're simply wrong if you don't accept Riot were pushing it.
Aayan [#16]EDG were invited to EA LCQ which qualified them to Champs 2022
They were invited to LOCK//IN
Invited to Masters Tokyo
Invited to Champs 2023Then in 2024 Shanghai's theme was literally made around KK as #14 mentioned, things like his op pose were sent around by Riot.
Past that, China has been a weak region (not through their own fault), so EDG can experience diff them.What does deserve credit is the run they went on in Champs though, that parts defo not forced. But you have to still admit that Riot have really been pushing KK to appeal to the Chinese audience, and that's not even necessarily a bad thing, but you're simply wrong if you don't accept Riot were pushing it.
they were invited to EA LCQ and kicked ass.
every team was invited to lock//in so it's as if you said murizz was forced into a narrative
he popped off in groups at tokyo
champs 2023 is irrelevant
sexocum [#17]they were invited to EA LCQ and kicked ass.
every team was invited to lock//in so it's as if you said murizz was forced into a narrative
he popped off in groups at tokyo
champs 2023 is irrelevant
he still got more attention than some people who were around for longer
sexocum [#17]they were invited to EA LCQ and kicked ass.
every team was invited to lock//in so it's as if you said murizz was forced into a narrative
he popped off in groups at tokyo
champs 2023 is irrelevant
Yeah I'm not denying their results at all.
This is about Riot using KK in advertisements and such.
For LOCK//IN CN weren't an official region which is why I thought it was worth pointing out
Aayan [#19]Yeah I'm not denying their results at all.
This is about Riot using KK in advertisements and such.
For LOCK//IN CN weren't an official region which is why I thought it was worth pointing out
I think it was mainly due to China = irrelevant region so every insane player was hyped around
Aayan [#16]EDG were invited to EA LCQ which qualified them to Champs 2022
They were invited to LOCK//IN
Invited to Masters Tokyo
Invited to Champs 2023Then in 2024 Shanghai's theme was literally made around KK as #14 mentioned, things like his op pose were sent around by Riot.
Past that, China has been a weak region (not through their own fault), so EDG can experience diff them.What does deserve credit is the run they went on in Champs though, that parts defo not forced. But you have to still admit that Riot have really been pushing KK to appeal to the Chinese audience, and that's not even necessarily a bad thing, but you're simply wrong if you don't accept Riot were pushing it.
from my perspective you push something with foundation or without, in this case it is not uncommon because KK was never a really mid or bad player, and in 2024 it happened that he finally managed to have a team at his level, coincidentally it happens that EDG took the best of his region. The only thing I could agree with you is the champions song but before that it is stupid, since it is the only regular team in China since the beginning, that is not being pushed by riot, it is logical to be the face of that region, as sentinels was the 1st year, or Loud in their year of champions in Americas, PRX kinda with something similar.
ianceae [#21]from my perspective you push something with foundation or without, in this case it is not uncommon because KK was never a really mid or bad player, and in 2024 it happened that he finally managed to have a team at his level, coincidentally it happens that EDG took the best of his region. The only thing I could agree with you is the champions song but before that it is stupid, since it is the only regular team in China since the beginning, that is not being pushed by riot, it is logical to be the face of that region, as sentinels was the 1st year, or Loud in their year of champions in Americas, PRX kinda with something similar.
it is logical to be the face of that region
then we agree, that riot, were in fact leaning in to KK in their marketing. Yes there's reasons for it; I just thought you were denying that they were doing it at all which is why I made a point of it
Nef0r0 [#4]tenz is the face of the game only in this english speaking part of the internet, which is the biggest part of the internet which kinda dictates who the bigger person is.
thats racist cuz everyone knows aspas is the best player in the world and tenz isnt
donkkomong [#25]thats racist cuz everyone knows aspas is the best player in the world and tenz isnt
We talk purely about popularity
donkkomong [#25]thats racist cuz everyone knows aspas is the best player in the world and tenz isnt
yes aspas > tenz but you have to realize he only made a name for himself in 2022 while tenz was relevant since beginning of 2021 if not earlier
tenz averages 20k+ viewers on twitch, aspas is slightly behind
Aayan [#24]it is logical to be the face of that region
then we agree, that riot, were in fact leaning in to KK in their marketing. Yes there's reasons for it; I just thought you were denying that they were doing it at all which is why I made a point of it
forced is not the same as the logical choice due to trajectory and regularity, similar to the rest of the players who had more outstanding moments in the video.
catNmouse [#28]yes aspas > tenz but you have to realize he only made a name for himself in 2022 while tenz was relevant since beginning of 2021 if not earlier
tenz averages 20k+ viewers on twitch, aspas is slightly behind
viewers on twitch isnt difficult. riot hardcore advertised tenz throughout the years, if they do that to aspas then the outcome will be the same. aspas or demon1 or kangkang but nobody knows chinese except china so most likely a non-chinese face of valorant.
donkkomong [#25]thats racist cuz everyone knows aspas is the best player in the world and tenz isnt
Except that was never what this was about. You people need to stop being so blinded by rage when hearing anything positive regarding tenz.
Being the face of something doesn't mean automatically that you're the best of that thing. The face of chess is Magnus Carlson but Gary Kasparov has had a far more impressive rule over the games history (ofc during his time he was the face).
It might be someone else in the future but it's unlikely considering how much influence tenz has had in regards to bringing in new pros and new casuals to the game. More viewers, and changed the landscape of the esports' rise in popularity.
donkkomong [#30]viewers on twitch isnt difficult. riot hardcore advertised tenz throughout the years, if they do that to aspas then the outcome will be the same. aspas or demon1 or kangkang but nobody knows chinese except china so most likely a non-chinese face of valorant.
Riot has advertised many different players, what do you think was happening when tenz didn't make any lans?
Stop being such a whiner just because the name tenz was mentioned
JustHunterM8 [#32]Except that was never what this was about. You people need to stop being so blinded by rage when hearing anything positive regarding tenz.
Being the face of something doesn't mean automatically that you're the best of that thing. The face of chess is Magnus Carlson but Gary Kasparov has had a far more impressive rule over the games history (ofc during his time he was the face).
It might be someone else in the future but it's unlikely considering how much influence tenz has had in regards to bringing in new pros and new casuals to the game. More viewers, and changed the landscape of the esports' rise in popularity.
no idea wut ur yappin about. quit yappin and get a life dude lmfao
juugobr_ [#31]TenZ is the face of valorant and it cant be changed
Aspas can be the goat though
it can and will be changed
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