VALORANT has no GOAT

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Nef0r0

with TenZ retiring, I see quite a lot of people mentioning how he is the goat of the game, and I can see where they are coming from, but he is not the goat, he is the face of the game. And the candidates for goats, names like chronicle or derke or aspas aren't nearly as close to domination as s1mples, devices, fakers, topsons, anas of other gaming titles. It is not a bad thing, but imo it is somewhat lacking in narratives, there is no main character in the scene, the eye of the storm. And it will probably take years for one to emerge

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nAts is goat

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Nef0r0

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the war and gambit disbanding cucked him over, if he bounces back and liquid are actually good next year, then there is a chance

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Gutssz

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They let him play for Liquid to chain his power

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goat of NA tho easily

what a player

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Nef0r0

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true, but it's still not the overall goat, there isn't one

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Gutssz

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FNS is goat of NA easily

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kanyefan4238173

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tenz has double the trophies of any na player

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Uncleben

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I don’t think trophies is everything tbh, individual skill is more important for goat convo (not saying tenz doesn’t have the skill to be the goat)

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rtyu

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well valorant is kinda bottlenecked in that aspect,individiual skill ceiling is not that high

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kanyefan4238173

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trophies is part of it tho. trophies show that no other na player has had consistency at the top level like tenz. and not just that he was mvp and had the best tournament of any player ever in 2021. its not just trophies but its like the easiest way to showcase his longevity at the top of the game

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Uncleben

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The problem is that tenz having two trophies is not proof of his consistency because his team was horrible for 2 years

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kanyefan4238173

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i agree. longevity and consistency are different to me. yay was insanely consistent but not for long for example

derke is insanely consistent for a long time

tenz was on top in very different times but not consistently on top

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Nef0r0

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trophies aren't everything, combination of trophies, stats, skill and consistency is.

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s0m exists

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shrike-

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by the end of 2025 he will be the goat

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kirrans

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i guess i'm going to have to step up

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Nef0r0

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brits esports domination starting now, wtf
save the SEN society, kirrans

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Tacolilla exists.

The GOAT

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Sidyon

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we're only 4 years in and 2 years in franchising, ofc there isn't a goat yet it's way to early.

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Nef0r0

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why are people throwing around the title of the GOAT? Seems pointless to me. I know it's fun, but the gap between top 5 players of all time in valorant is so small you cannot have this goat

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rtyu

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there wont be probably

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NRGSUPERFAN

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GOAT ASPAS CLEARS

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Nef0r0

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his CV is probably the best one rn in valorant, but imo his champs win coming when he wasn't even the MVP doesn't make sense

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NRGSUPERFAN

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doesnt matter. hes the best player valorant has currently seen. 1 more title and hes outdone everyone but chronicle in terms of trophies.

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Nef0r0

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him going on some solo carry run and dominating everyone, like a win of his own would go crazy for his legacy

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exxSenpai

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might not be the GOAT but imo is the face of valorant

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Nef0r0

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not arguing the face of the game point, but not a goat

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Agreed!

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Aayan

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imo we need to wait until the 10thish year until we can have a GOAT, its just too early rn.
he was defo the face of valorant though

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sonofcar

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YvngKurry

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Yes there is and his name is T - E - N - Z remember it

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Nef0r0

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2 masters win, no champs wins, 2022 and 2023 year was a failure, yeah, not really

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SomeoneLikeU

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GOAT is aspas. TenZ is the early GOAT (2020-2021) and the face of Valorant.

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Nef0r0

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His CV still isn't that great compared to other players. Sure, valorant is younger, but are we sure that aspas can get the status of faker and s1mple with so few events and such rapid changes in the meta?