I just saw a setup vid and this sht is broken af, you walk onto site and get full boxed with vines underneath you tf are u meant to do. And yoru's clone doesn't even activate the utility.
I know there are ways around this such as teleporting away with yoru or chamber but the wall could be placed anywhere you won't expect.
What do you guys think?
Aayan [#2]I think the yoru thing is a bug. But I think it's gonna be pretty good in ranked, as for pro play idk, I think the value will come from the damaging trips
I could think of so many ways to utilize that wall, what if wingman goes to plant and then he gets full boxed spike is gone, or even anyone that plants (I'm thinking about a site on bind rn)
omegaishere [#5]I could think of so many ways to utilize that wall, what if wingman goes to plant and then he gets full boxed spike is gone, or even anyone that plants (I'm thinking about a site on bind rn)
Wingman doesn't trigger the wall, fortunately
shrike- [#4]vyse looks really good at first glance
the mounted flash is insane and if it isn’t broken by someone, it has like a 15 second cooldown so you can flash, take it back, put it back somewhere else and then flash again, it’s nuts
also the wall is like 200 credits LMAOOO
Yes the mounted flash does seem broken but if you think about it don't they have to place it in your line of sight for you to get flashed? I haven't seen how visible it is but maybe u can destroy it easily, ok that wall is dirt cheap tf
cloudberry [#6]Wingman doesn't trigger the wall, fortunately
Thank God, we gonna have gekko in every map now
omegaishere [#8]Yes the mounted flash does seem broken but if you think about it don't they have to place it in your line of sight for you to get flashed? I haven't seen how visible it is but maybe u can destroy it easily, ok that wall is dirt cheap tf
the flash is visible from like 10 steps away, but you don’t have to be looking at the flash itself for you to be able to activate it. it also has a pretty decent range and can be placed in pretty hidden places, kinda like a cypher cam
i also should mention that it has a sound cue for when you flash someone (like a skye flash) so it can also gather info
shrike- [#10]the flash is visible from like 10 steps away, but you don’t have to be looking at the flash itself for you to be able to activate it. it also has a pretty decent range and can be placed in pretty hidden places, kinda like a cypher cam
i also should mention that it has a sound cue for when you flash someone (like a skye flash) so it can also gather info
Yes that's FKING broken this sht better get the nerfed like chamber
It's nuts the agent, jts gonna be used a hella lot in pro play, bro a flash on a sentinel agent that can also be used multiple times in game for free info, the ult is super awesome for defense to stop a complete push into a site, plus on attack u can easy take a site using the ult + the fact u can materialise I eco rounds using the ult is super awesome again, that wall can be used for lurks info + makes it super hard to get through choke points and the trap setup on sites which can be used to slow down retakes or even attack executes super op agent
KClaw [#12]It's nuts the agent, jts gonna be used a hella lot in pro play, bro a flash on a sentinel agent that can also be used multiple times in game for free info, the ult is super awesome for defense to stop a complete push into a site, plus on attack u can easy take a site using the ult + the fact u can materialise I eco rounds using the ult is super awesome again, that wall can be used for lurks info + makes it super hard to get through choke points and the trap setup on sites which can be used to slow down retakes or even attack executes super op agent
I just know everyone is gonna insta lock this sht, but honestly for pro play if yoru's decoy actually activated the traps it shouldn't be too broken but still broken
Here is my main issue with Vyse. We saw t2 comps bleed into T1. Mainly the deadlock ascent scam. And I am concerned this will happen again. Some t2 team will start playing ( cypher/Vyse) and then t1 teams will pick it up. And a double senti meta is boring af to watch.
Also Vyse’s flash is going to be used a Skye flash I think. An example of how people will play Pearl with her is. People will put the flash in halls and flash b long every 20 seconds for info. Constant info. And the fact she has a voice line that says when people are hit by the flash doesn’t help.
shrike- [#4]vyse looks really good at first glance
the mounted flash is insane and if it isn’t broken by someone, it has like a 15 second cooldown so you can flash, take it back, put it back somewhere else and then flash again, it’s nuts
also the wall is like 200 credits LMAOOO
the cost of her kit is ridiculously low. That wall seems INSANE for 200 creds, it's indestructible before and after it's used, just doesn't last very long, but definitely long enough to kill whoever pushed out in front of the wall.
Flash cannot be destroyed while it's winding up, super hard to dodge cause it can be in weird places like cypher cam. Also the flash gives info like skye flash
500 for the full kit is the lowest in the game for sure.
Ult is very good and almost impossible to miss if you have ANY idea where people are.
The only downside is that on attack it may be very hard to get consistent value out of her, as the trips are super easily shootable due to big hitbox, the ult goes around you, not to a designated area like breach/fade ult, and the flash can be destroyed before you get to pop it once you place the thing
ParisVLR [#14]Here is my main issue with Vyse. We saw t2 comps bleed into T1. Mainly the deadlock ascent scam. And I am concerned this will happen again. Some t2 team will start playing ( cypher/Vyse) and then t1 teams will pick it up. And a double senti meta is boring af to watch.
Also Vyse’s flash is going to be used a Skye flash I think. An example of how people will play Pearl with her is. People will put the flash in halls and flash b long every 20 seconds for info. Constant info. And the fact she has a voice line that says when people are hit by the flash doesn’t help.
I think the voice line is just absurd because that is something that makes Skye unique
omegaishere [#16]I think the voice line is just absurd because that is something that makes Skye unique
Don’t forget the flash is free and regenerates. Skye has to buy a flash and can’t even regenerate it it’s bull shit.
ParisVLR [#17]Don’t forget the flash is free and regenerates. Skye has to buy a flash and can’t even regenerate it it’s bull shit.
Yes, but Skye has 2 flashes that can be popped right after one another, and is much more flexible in its usage, can flash anywhere and at long distance.
Good luck using vyse flash on attack properly
kapteN [#18]Yes, but Skye has 2 flashes that can be popped right after one another, and is much more flexible in its usage, can flash anywhere and at long distance.
Good luck using vyse flash on attack properly
personally i think vyse flash will be utilized more as a cypher cam on attack, wherein you immediately deploy the flash to see if an area is being contested early
shrike- [#20]personally i think vyse flash will be utilized more as a cypher cam on attack, wherein you immediately deploy the flash to see if an area is being contested early
Sure that makes total sense, but to take a sight you almost have to pair it with other utility in order to get any value out of that flash
good luck with that in ranked tbh.
On defense she seems broken af at first glance
Kalerx [#19]From playing it a bit on the PBE, the work around is honestly just jump peeking the wall and it will activate the moment you are back onto the safe side
yea but thats only if ur expecting the wall? unless it's noticeable on the ground i haven't seen much yet
kapteN [#15]the cost of her kit is ridiculously low. That wall seems INSANE for 200 creds, it's indestructible before and after it's used, just doesn't last very long, but definitely long enough to kill whoever pushed out in front of the wall.
Flash cannot be destroyed while it's winding up, super hard to dodge cause it can be in weird places like cypher cam. Also the flash gives info like skye flash
500 for the full kit is the lowest in the game for sure.
Ult is very good and almost impossible to miss if you have ANY idea where people are.
The only downside is that on attack it may be very hard to get consistent value out of her, as the trips are super easily shootable due to big hitbox, the ult goes around you, not to a designated area like breach/fade ult, and the flash can be destroyed before you get to pop it once you place the thing
you can full kit and buy shorty on pistol (w strat)
omegaishere [#22]yea but thats only if ur expecting the wall? unless it's noticeable on the ground i haven't seen much yet
You can see and hear the wall from 4 meters range
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