im leaving vlr.
but do not put them in your top 5 teams of 2024 rankings thx.
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Klaw69 [#5]TH is only team that kept EMEA alive this year in masters and champions, 2 back to back international grand finals and they were close to winning champs, what's with this friendly fire!!
if you multiply any number by zero it’s still zero
vreesey [#4]They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
Yeah LEV is a good shout for #5, they won Americas, qualified for 2 internationals and got top 3 in Champs.
vreesey [#4]They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
Hell nah 1 EDG 2 GEN 3 TH 4 SEN 5 LEV
vreesey [#4]They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
nobody gonna mention SEN being first?
vreesey [#4]They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
2 2nd place finishes in no world is better than a first place champs finish. How tf is edg not above th?
I'd rather get one first place than a gazillion second places.
Also sen and geng should be switched, sen is not first lol.
vreesey [#4]They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
how the fuck is SEN first.
GENG placed 2nd, 1st, 12-9th
Sen placed 1st, didnt even qual for playoffs, and 4th
in no world did SEN have a better year than Geng
Vyde [#8]Hell nah 1 EDG 2 GEN 3 TH 4 SEN 5 LEV
team with 0 trophies in the year manages to get top 3, instead of a team that won a masters
azureblade101 [#16]team with 0 trophies in the year manages to get top 3, instead of a team that won a masters
2nd place in both masters and champions and also in their regional leagues. Sen couldn't even qualify for the second masters and placed 4th at champions.
Klaw69 [#5]TH is only team that kept EMEA alive this year in masters and champions, 2 back to back international grand finals and they were close to winning champs, what's with this friendly fire!!
Flukeretics should just disband.
Vyde [#18]2nd place in both masters and champions and also in their regional leagues. Sen couldn't even qualify for the second masters and placed 4th at champions.
did they get a trophy? no right?
sen got a trophy, which is why they are top 3
since there are 3 events in a year, if each team wins an event, all 3 of those teams are in the top 3 teams of the year, doesn't matter how many 2nds you get
can't believe ppl are so retarded
vreesey [#4]They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
EDG had a better year than sen 😂
azureblade101 [#21]did they get a trophy? no right?
sen got a trophy, which is why they are top 3
since there are 3 events in a year, if each team wins an event, all 3 of those teams are in the top 3 teams of the year, doesn't matter how many 2nds you get
can't believe ppl are so retarded
So you're saying 2nd place of champs is ignorable? Sen even placed 7-8th in stage 1 and 5-6th in stage 2, with no considerable achievement after the masters with only eight teams participating.
Vyde [#23]So you're saying 2nd place of champs is ignorable? Sen even placed 7-8th in stage 1 and 5-6th in stage 2, with no considerable achievement after the masters with only eight teams participating.
they still won an international event this year, did team heretics win an international trophy?
a trophy is what matters at the end of the day, and since 3 different teams won 3 different trophies this year, ONLY those 3 teams can be top 3
how is it this hard to understand?
azureblade101 [#24]they still won an international event this year, did team heretics win an international trophy?
a trophy is what matters at the end of the day, and since 3 different teams won 3 different trophies this year, ONLY those 3 teams can be top 3
how is it this hard to understand?
I didn't know how hard it is to make someone understand the importance of consistency and champions. Heretics made clear their skills improved and took the 2nd place of champ whereas Sen fell off gradually after Madrid. But what did Sen? Placing 5-6th in their regional league and qualifying for champs thanks to Leviatan? I can't argue that they had a good year as heretics.
Vyde [#25]I didn't know how hard it is to make someone understand the importance of consistency and champions. Heretics made clear their skills improved and took the 2nd place of champ whereas Sen fell off gradually after Madrid. But what did Sen? Placing 5-6th in their regional league and qualifying for champs thanks to Leviatan? I can't argue that they had a good year as heretics.
improved so much they won a Trophy against their peers (not)
ShuGo [#27]improved so much they won a Trophy against their peers (not)
Just keep underrating them. Don't have much to speak well of a team that's only made the finals once a year and has never even been close to winning.
arin2016 [#3]You're not leaving VLR. You will stay and watch as Shitmea fails to get a trophy for another year.
there is no way someone from japan of all regions makes a comment like this
Vyde [#25]I didn't know how hard it is to make someone understand the importance of consistency and champions. Heretics made clear their skills improved and took the 2nd place of champ whereas Sen fell off gradually after Madrid. But what did Sen? Placing 5-6th in their regional league and qualifying for champs thanks to Leviatan? I can't argue that they had a good year as heretics.
didnt win a trophy, so they are simply not top 3 teams of the year
Vyde [#28]Just keep underrating them. Don't have much to speak well of a team that's only made the finals once a year and has never even been close to winning.
SEN - 1 Trophy
GENG - 1 Trophy
EDG - 1 Trophy
TH - 0 Trophy
Results speak for themselves, no one realistically gives a shit about the 2nd Place Losers unless they're Fans of them (you)
ShuGo [#32]SEN - 1 Trophy
GENG - 1 Trophy
EDG - 1 Trophy
TH - 0 TrophyResults speak for themselves, no one realistically gives a shit about the 2nd Place Losers unless they're Fans of them (you)
Just a typical american hating EU 😆
Vyde [#34]Just a typical american hating EU 😆
or I'm one of the majority that actually gives a fuck about the Winners 😂
you pathetic stupid European
azureblade101 [#31]didnt win a trophy, so they are simply not top 3 teams of the year
Just speaking the same with no contradiction.
ShuGo [#35]or I'm one of the majority that actually gives a fuck about the Winners 😂
you pathetic stupid European
“You pathetic stupid European” shows you’re not 😂
Vyde [#36]Just speaking the same with no contradiction.
you are so retarded it hurts my brain to even think about how dumbasses like you exist
its a simple concept, a team that won an international tournament in a year, will always be the more successful team of the year compared to whichever team didn't.
even a fucking 4th grader can understand what I'm saying, why can't you?
shrike- [#2]literally shut your mouth
they were the best team in emea the entire year
one of only two teams to make TWO international grand finals
how are you the best team in emea if you cant even win emea
vreesey [#4]They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
- EDG 3/3 finals win
- GenG 2/4 finals win
- Sen 2/2 finals win
- TH 0/3 finals win
- I think people are forgetting that PRX placed 3rd at Madrid making their seasons resume very similiar to Lev however PRX made every international while Lev made 2 so its up for debate
azureblade101 [#38]you are so retarded it hurts my brain to even think about how dumbasses like you exist
its a simple concept, a team that won an international tournament in a year, will always be the more successful team of the year compared to whichever team didn't.
even a fucking 4th grader can understand what I'm saying, why can't you?
So I’m saying it isn’t and it just seems like you can't just admit the fact that a team from EU is on the top 3 teams in the world.
Camden [#39]how are you the best team in emea if you cant even win emea
because they have been the only emes team on two separate occassions to make any form of a deep run internationally whilst every other emea team has shit the bed
geospliced [#26]Here's what I think.
- GENG
- EDG
- SEN
- TH
- LEV
LEV is too high unfortunately (didnt make 1st LAN and got grouped the second time around)
Vyde [#41]So I’m saying it isn’t and it just seems like you can't just admit the fact that a team from EU is on the top 3 teams in the world.
lol what? idc about region wars or wtv, if team heretics won a tournament and sen didn't, they would be top 3 teams of 2024, but guess what?
you can guess it, I don't even have to tell you lmfaoo
geospliced [#26]Here's what I think.
- GENG
- EDG
- SEN
- TH
- LEV
EDG champs, 2 regional titles, most champs points
Geng masters, 1 regional title, 4 grand finals
Sen masters, 1 regional title
Th 0/3 grand finals
Prx top 3, every international qualified, 1 regional title
Lev top 3, 1 regional title
azureblade101 [#44]lol what? idc about region wars or wtv, if team heretics won a tournament and sen didn't, they would be top 3 teams of 2024, but guess what?
you can guess it, I don't even have to tell you lmfaoo
You don't care about it? Your previous posts show it lmao
Popppings [#33]Okay
Name me your top 5 teams
EDG champs, 2 regional titles, most champs points
Geng masters, 1 regional title, 4 grand finals
Sen masters, 1 regional title
Th 0/3 grand finals
Prx top 3, every international qualified, 1 regional title
Lev top 3, 1 regional title
Camden [#39]how are you the best team in emea if you cant even win emea
that's a braindead take. 2022 optic could not win NA for the life of them, but they are undoubted either the best or second best team in 2022 in the world. fnc lost emea playoffs in 2023 to liquid, they are still 100% the best team in emea in 2023
azureblade101 [#38]you are so retarded it hurts my brain to even think about how dumbasses like you exist
its a simple concept, a team that won an international tournament in a year, will always be the more successful team of the year compared to whichever team didn't.
even a fucking 4th grader can understand what I'm saying, why can't you?
Used slurs = lost the discussion.
Skill issue + anger issue.
GhostKing44 [#50]that's a braindead take. 2022 optic could not win NA for the life of them, but they are undoubted either the best or second best team in 2022 in the world. fnc lost emea playoffs in 2023 to liquid, they are still 100% the best team in emea in 2023
No because 2022 optic was actually the first seed from NA going into champs same with 2023 fnatic they were the 1st seed out of emea going into champs as well
Vyde [#47]You don't care about it? Your previous posts show it lmao
nice side track, at the end of the day, sentinels still won a trophy this year and team heretics didnt
ig u can cry in ur corner or sum cornball
ShuGo [#51]says the dude that don't know that winning > losing
Says the dude whose team had been grouped in the regional stage with tons of losing and not even qualified
azureblade101 [#54]nice side track, at the end of the day, sentinels still won a trophy this year and team heretics didnt
ig u can cry in ur corner or sum cornball
I'm not even a fan of them lol why would I? I'm just saying that Sen don't deserve that 3rd space.
azureblade101 [#54]nice side track, at the end of the day, sentinels still won a trophy this year and team heretics didnt
ig u can cry in ur corner or sum cornball
I agree
It doesn't matter how many second place u get when u cannot even win a single trophy, even the regional one
Yes TH is good but not top 3
That only goes to the actual winners
GenG, EDG and SEN not only win internationally but they also win regional trophy
Vyde [#55]Says the dude whose team had been grouped in the regional stage with tons of losing and not even qualified
by your logic apparently winning masters < consistently getting 2nd place
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