You guys need to understand, the only reason every region seems "equal" in skill level, its because EU interest in valorant is so low, that our skill level at this game is on par with other regions.
The moment EU loses interest in games like CS and Dota 2, oh boy oh boy, you guys are done so.
Literally the top 4 of every tournament would be EU teams, and this forum would be full of EU fans begging to take away slots from other regions and give them to EU. Any tier 2 EU team would be stomping SEN, EDG, GenG, etc. Most of the top players from Americas, Apac, China, would be instantly playing on Tier 2 EU teams, and the best region for pubs will be EU.
So, China, Americas, APAC, feel proud of being "good" at the game, when the reality is, you are only good as long as EU isnt interested in valorant.
Every region come (amer, apac, china, emea)
Anguibok [#4]Switch to KR flag
You guys need to understand, the only reason every region seems "equal" in skill level, its because KR interest in valorant is so low, that our skill level at this game is on par with other regions. If val become a national sport as LoL did in KR, you all are dead.
Skill level is not even close lil bro, im actually crying
Aayan [#5]well yeah but if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike
bro legit thinks CS and dota will just die
Anguibok [#4]Switch to KR flag
You guys need to understand, the only reason every region seems "equal" in skill level, its because KR interest in valorant is so low, that our skill level at this game is on par with other regions. If val become a national sport as LoL did in KR, you all are dead.
for a long time valorant has already been played more in korean pc bangs than overwatch btw,in pc bangs it is actually already the most played fps game and 3rd overall only behind fifa and league,now its probably even more popular with gen g's rise
not5kin [#3]I mean you could say this for Korea too, something like “The moment they lose interest in Overwatch we’re all cooked.” Excuses don’t mean shit, results do
Buddy Niko would slap the fuck outta every Val pro lmao, more than half of Val players in the past 4 years have been CS tier 2-3 rejects.
CS is much closer to Val than OW or LoL
not5kin [#3]I mean you could say this for Korea too, something like “The moment they lose interest in Overwatch we’re all cooked.” Excuses don’t mean shit, results do
#8
geospliced [#10]If your aunt had testicles she would be your uncle.
edit: CN players would never leave their bag to play for a pouch
This is the most unhinged geospliced post I've ever read
gg321 [#8]for a long time valorant has already been played more in korean pc bangs than overwatch btw,in pc bangs it is actually already the most played fps game and 3rd overall only behind fifa and league,now its probably even more popular with gen g's rise
Still with KR flag
Number of my people that play LoL in PC bang compared to people that play Val ?
BEHEMOTH [#9]Buddy Niko would slap the fuck outta every Val pro lmao, more than half of Val players in the past 4 years have been CS tier 2-3 rejects.
CS is much closer to Val than OW or LoL
downvoted for facts xd most of the top teams weve seen in val were the biggest rejects in cs lul except maybe ethan
cloudberry [#12]This is the most unhinged geospliced post I've ever read
For even angels lose their halos in the depths of the gluttonous abyss. My sanity drains with every low-quality post I read and every autopilot post I make. The ritual we know as vlr.gg requests for each participant to sacrifice an intangible fragment of themselves, and it is those users with slippery fingers who abandon more than they might've intended to initially. cloudberry, we are fortunate people, but being just that comes at a price too.
geospliced [#15]For even angels lose their halos in the depths of the gluttonous abyss. My sanity drains with every low-quality post I read and every autopilot post I make. The ritual we know as vlr.gg requests for each participant to sacrifice an intangible fragment of themselves, and it is those users with slippery fingers who abandon more than they might've intended to initially. cloudberry, we are fortunate people, but being just that comes at a price too.
Great monologue, 9/10
cloudberry [#16]Great monologue, 9/10
Thank you. I'm glad to know that my 3 semesters of Creative Writing class didn't go to waste.
geospliced [#17]Thank you. I'm glad to know that my 3 semesters of Creative Writing class didn't go to waste.
You could probably make a career out of this if you really wanted
cloudberry [#18]You could probably make a career out of this if you really wanted
I do write as a hobby in my spare time but I'm nowhere near good enough to make it a career lol. My destiny does not include being a writer and that's just fate being fate.
geospliced [#10]If your aunt had testicles she would be your uncle.
edit: CN players would never leave their bag to play for a pouch
What is she is trans ?
geospliced [#19]I do write as a hobby in my spare time but I'm nowhere near good enough to make it a career lol. My destiny does not include being a writer and that's just fate being fate.
Interesting
Anguibok [#20]What is she is trans ?
It's just a proverb or idiom I roughly translated. It's meant to invoke the same effect as #5
Also I'm visiting France tomorrow so that's very cool :D
Anguibok [#13]Still with KR flag
Number of my people that play LoL in PC bang compared to people that play Val ?
what are u trying to say
laeDLaer [#14]downvoted for facts xd most of the top teams weve seen in val were the biggest rejects in cs lul except maybe ethan
ethan was the only top tier pro to leave
0/8
Valorant is too hard for CS pros: https://youtu.be/i9gGZgNbhA0?si=VAFmTOqBoumF5A3D
If it really was so easy for them to switch and dominate, they would have, end of discussion.
Yuh_aye [#25]0/8
Valorant is too hard for CS pros: https://youtu.be/i9gGZgNbhA0?si=VAFmTOqBoumF5A3D
If it really was so easy for them to switch and dominate, they would have, end of discussion.
because they dedicate their time a whole different game with different mechanics?
And you forgot how many valorant pros had a background with CS?
Tenz, Zellsis, aspas, c0m, ethan, FNS, s0m, xeppa, leaf list goes on and on. Obviously now you have more talent without cs experience, but they layed the foundation for the game
gg321 [#8]for a long time valorant has already been played more in korean pc bangs than overwatch btw,in pc bangs it is actually already the most played fps game and 3rd overall only behind fifa and league,now its probably even more popular with gen g's rise
i actually would like numbers on this because the number of people watching korean vct, both before and after franchising, does NOT line up with your statement. maybe the casual community is higher but there doesn't seem to be a corresponding interest in the pro scene
not5kin [#27]i actually would like numbers on this because the number of people watching korean vct, both before and after franchising, does NOT line up with your statement. maybe the casual community is higher but there doesn't seem to be a corresponding interest in the pro scene
and the thing u said about korea casual community is the case with emea
Nef0r0 [#26]because they dedicate their time a whole different game with different mechanics?
And you forgot how many valorant pros had a background with CS?
Tenz, Zellsis, aspas, c0m, ethan, FNS, s0m, xeppa, leaf list goes on and on. Obviously now you have more talent without cs experience, but they layed the foundation for the game
The point is why would they dedicate their time to a different game if they could so easily come to valorant and win everything? It would be a no-brainer, especially financially, so why not switch? They answer that question in the video, Valorant is harder - they said it themselves.
Yuh_aye [#29]The point is why would they dedicate their time to a different game if they could so easily come to valorant and win everything? It would be a no-brainer, especially financially, so why not switch? They answer that question in the video, Valorant is harder - they said it themselves.
the OP is retarded for making such claim, but there is no reason to switch when salaries are really big in CS. why would s1mple switch when he can afford to buy Porsches every year, why would zywoo switch when he earns 80k, it's not a sinatraa situation where overwatch league was dying. CS scene is growing and at rapid pace. IF cs were to die in 2020, then yeah, you would see way more pros leaving, salaries are the reason most pros left. players like subroza, wardell, dappr left because they weren't good enough for Liquid and EG, got mad at this, still wanted big salaries, and when orgs KNEW that riot would implement franchising they gave huge bags to subpar players. Everyone got what they wanted, valorant got a part of the pro scene and first orgs, players got the bag and orgs got acknowledgement from riot that they are willing to spend money
gg321 [#11]#8
point still stands, there are a lot of talented people across regions who get funneled into different games simply because the culture is different. americas players into r6 (from my understanding) and cod, emea players into cs, apac players into ow and mobile games, cn players into whatever games are legal in china because they have the firewall to deal with. every region has talent that could kick ass if they transferred into valorant, we just do not know, and we can't know. so we compare the players we've got.
BEHEMOTH [#9]Buddy Niko would slap the fuck outta every Val pro lmao, more than half of Val players in the past 4 years have been CS tier 2-3 rejects.
CS is much closer to Val than OW or LoL
i don't really think we have enough of a sample size of ow players to say for sure that the transition is easier for them. sure back in 2021 it was definitely easier to transition from cs, but i genuinely think that in 2024 with how much the meta has shifted towards setup plays dumping massive amounts of utility (play that one clip of the guy watching eg v prx on bind and having no clue what is happening), players who understand ability usage more will start to thrive aka overwatch players. of course, this is just what a nobody like myself thinks about it, i am not an expert.
gg321 [#28]and the thing u said about korea casual community is the case with emea
thanks, this is actually pretty interesting to look at. i still wouldn't personally say that the numbers are big enough to justify your sentiment that most people in kr who would be good already play valorant, but we can agree to disagree.
Yuh_aye [#25]0/8
Valorant is too hard for CS pros: https://youtu.be/i9gGZgNbhA0?si=VAFmTOqBoumF5A3D
If it really was so easy for them to switch and dominate, they would have, end of discussion.
being a tier 1 cs player is more rewarding than tier 1 valorant,why would anyone whos young and on top in cs switch to val if they are not in NA or apac
BEHEMOTH [#9]Buddy Niko would slap the fuck outta every Val pro lmao, more than half of Val players in the past 4 years have been CS tier 2-3 rejects.
CS is much closer to Val than OW or LoL
this made sense on 2020 and 2021 when the hardest strat was stun + flash + peek but now? the only ex-cs pros who play arent even the best itw or they switched games when they were less than 20 yo
The moment EU loses interest in games like CS and Dota 2.
The moment KR loses interest in games like Overwatch and League.
The moment CN loses interest in games like CrossFire and HoK.
The moment NA loses interest in shooting people in real life.
The moment India become rich and well-developed.
The moment African quit suffering disease and hungry.
The moment that all humankind start to understand and love each others.
Az3 [#36]The moment EU loses interest in games like CS and Dota 2.
The moment KR loses interest in games like Overwatch and League.
The moment CN loses interest in games like CrossFire and HoK.
The moment NA loses interest in shooting people in real life.
The moment India become rich and well-developed.
The moment African quit suffering disease and hungry.
The moment that all humankind start to understand and love each others.
upvoted
Yuh_aye [#29]The point is why would they dedicate their time to a different game if they could so easily come to valorant and win everything? It would be a no-brainer, especially financially, so why not switch? They answer that question in the video, Valorant is harder - they said it themselves.
Why would CS pros switch to Val? CS salaries are a lot higher than Val, there's no reason to play val unless you're a tier 2 reject or washed cs pro that no org wants
Az3 [#36]The moment EU loses interest in games like CS and Dota 2.
The moment KR loses interest in games like Overwatch and League.
The moment CN loses interest in games like CrossFire and HoK.
The moment NA loses interest in shooting people in real life.
The moment India become rich and well-developed.
The moment African quit suffering disease and hungry.
The moment that all humankind start to understand and love each others.
LMAOOOO this is funny as fuck
Nef0r0 [#2]''The moment EU loses interest in games like CS and Dota 2''
interest has been there for 20 years, but ye, the interest will just drop for no reason
even if the interest in EU dota dropped it would take years for china to catch back up
gg321 [#23]what are u trying to say
That the day when val will equal lol in term of people playing in PC bang we may talk. Here we talk about something like a x8 ratio
Anguibok [#45]That the day when val will equal lol in term of people playing in PC bang we may talk. Here we talk about something like a x8 ratio
acting like league and val have the same players,league is way more popular than cs in eu too
gg321 [#46]acting like league and val have the same players,league is way more popular than cs in eu too
Fair point, but hard to know the diff between the 2 games
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