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CS and Valorant

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donkkomong

CS is such an easier game to play compared to Valorant.

CS is like apple iphones, very easy and simple to use even grandparents can use it and have no issue.

Valorant are more like samsung androids, more open to many things and versatile, very flexible and can have more fun with the utilities.

Point: CS is so easy and such a s1mple game.

With that said, whos winning COLOGNE 2024? VITALITY OR NA'VI?!

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based

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Cs is harder to learn, valorant is more noob friendly

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simpler does not mean easier xd

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Ill put it this way as an immo 2 in val and faceit 9 in cs. If you have great aim, CS is much easier. If you are a game sense player with good util, Valorant is much easier. But thats my opinion

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Penqu1N [#6]

Ill put it this way as an immo 2 in val and faceit 9 in cs. If you have great aim, CS is much easier. If you are a game sense player with good util, Valorant is much easier. But thats my opinion

I agree with aim but if you're a game sense player than smokes, molly, grenade and flashes in CS should be even easier lol

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I would say that CS is more like traditional football and valorant is more like basketball.

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sad_gambit_fan [#5]

simpler does not mean easier xd

CS awp is 10x easier and better than OP imo
btw I think VIT is taking it this year xd

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CS is such an easier game to play compared to Valorant.

CS is like apple iphones, very easy and simple to use even grandparents can use it and have no issue.

Valorant are more like samsung androids, more open to many things and versatile, very flexible and can have more fun with the utilities.

Point: CS is so easy and such a s1mple game.

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donkkomong [#9]

CS awp is 10x easier and better than OP imo
btw I think VIT is taking it this year xd

bro u dont even watch cs,u just called cologne a major final

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cs is harder to learn. valorant is really noobie friendly

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donkkomong [#9]

CS awp is 10x easier and better than OP imo
btw I think VIT is taking it this year xd

this is not the major bro, it happened in march already, navi took it, and there is one more in Shanghai in december

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VITALITY

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donkkomong [#7]

I agree with aim but if you're a game sense player than smokes, molly, grenade and flashes in CS should be even easier lol

I've seen cs pro games where a team would use every peice of util they have and just get sprayed down by simple, in valorant util is much more important than in cs. You can tp, clone, smoke cross map, flash, molly, dash, rocket launcher someone. Util in valorant is also much simpler to use, mfs in cs have to learn and know when to throw lineups for almost any smoke they want to use

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Prancer [#15]

I've seen cs pro games where a team would use every peice of util they have and just get sprayed down by simple, in valorant util is much more important than in cs. You can tp, clone, smoke cross map, flash, molly, dash, rocket launcher someone. Util in valorant is also much simpler to use, mfs in cs have to learn and know when to throw lineups for almost any smoke they want to use

that's kinda the beauty of the game for me, you can't just spam utility and win

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Penqu1N [#6]

Ill put it this way as an immo 2 in val and faceit 9 in cs. If you have great aim, CS is much easier. If you are a game sense player with good util, Valorant is much easier. But thats my opinion

bro its the opposite,the best val players rn were the type of ppl who had great mechanics but werent that good at pro level

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Prancer [#15]

I've seen cs pro games where a team would use every peice of util they have and just get sprayed down by simple, in valorant util is much more important than in cs. You can tp, clone, smoke cross map, flash, molly, dash, rocket launcher someone. Util in valorant is also much simpler to use, mfs in cs have to learn and know when to throw lineups for almost any smoke they want to use

thats why valorant util is NOT easier to use compared to cs

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gg321 [#17]

bro its the opposite,the best val players rn were the type of ppl who had great mechanics but werent that good at pro level

and the best cs players who played val miserably failed as well

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true, and i feel like aim is more easier in CS, Valo more harder because u cant spary with Vandal

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Nef0r0 [#16]

that's kinda the beauty of the game for me, you can't just spam utility and win

That's right but you also lose the micro-strat that valo has and is very entertaining wether you play the game or watch VCT

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donkkomong [#19]

and the best cs players who played val miserably failed as well

the only note worthy cs player who left for valorant ( at the moment of departure) was Ethan, maybe nitro. Shall I remind you that ethan is a champions winner? Jamppi was a cheater, scream is washed, angel is washed, same for others, either washed or unproven. Subroza, tarik, wardell were tier 2 when they left

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donkkomong [#19]

and the best cs players who played val miserably failed as well

like who?

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Nef0r0 [#22]

the only note worthy cs player who left for valorant ( at the moment of departure) was Ethan, maybe nitro. Shall I remind you that ethan is a champions winner? Jamppi was a cheater, scream is washed, angel is washed, same for others, either washed or unproven. Subroza, tarik, wardell were tier 2 when they left

jamppi wasnt a cheater in cs lol

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gg321 [#24]

jamppi wasnt a cheater in cs lol

but it prevented him from getting invites to the major circuit because of the vac ban, why he left imo

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Dattadri_sai [#20]

true, and i feel like aim is more easier in CS, Valo more harder because u cant spary with Vandal

CS is way faster than valo, holding angles, awp and hitting shots in general is way harder in my opinion. +Actually mastering the spray pattern of every weapon is really hard, while valo patterns are way easier

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Dattadri_sai [#20]

true, and i feel like aim is more easier in CS, Valo more harder because u cant spary with Vandal

it takes very little skill to hit the head in val,many val pros have said since the start the mechanical skill gap in val is pretty small

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donkkomong [#19]

and the best cs players who played val miserably failed as well

T3 cs pro now T1 valorant pro :D explain everything :D

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Nef0r0 [#25]

but it prevented him from getting invites to the major circuit because of the vac ban, why he left imo

yea it was

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MrBlooBloom [#21]

That's right but you also lose the micro-strat that valo has and is very entertaining wether you play the game or watch VCT

but cs gains the evolution of utility usage. you can watch for yourself today, before that those smokes outside on nuke were thrown by hand, now there are set lineups, before that teams used 3 smokes, now they use 2, also the new feature of breaking smokes gave a new level of mind games as well

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T3 cs pro now T1 valorant pro :D explain everything :D

proves nothing except just washed cs players moved to val, while top tier pros in cs stayed in cs
use better logic

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Nef0r0 [#30]

but cs gains the evolution of utility usage. you can watch for yourself today, before that those smokes outside on nuke were thrown by hand, now there are set lineups, before that teams used 3 smokes, now they use 2, also the new feature of breaking smokes gave a new level of mind games as well

that's not my point (I'm not denying it tho), but I meant that in valo you can turn up fights by using pieces of utility better than your opponents, have better timing, ect... While in CS it's more or less pure mechanical skill, I think that both are great but for this very specific reason, valo is funnier to watch and to play than CS (And it also is why top tier duelists on jett or reyna also are incredible to watch, cuz they are pure skill diffing the enemies)

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donkkomong [#31]

proves nothing except just washed cs players moved to val, while top tier pros in cs stayed in cs
use better logic

and the washed cs players can still compete in val lol

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CS way more fun to play me who tried cs after val can tell. But the players base is the problem. Even the lowest ranked player in cs will destroy a newcomer. I guess its because how old cs is. Same happens with any old games tbh. While valorant is new so the playerbase is new as well so more newcomer friendly

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MrBlooBloom [#32]

that's not my point (I'm not denying it tho), but I meant that in valo you can turn up fights by using pieces of utility better than your opponents, have better timing, ect... While in CS it's more or less pure mechanical skill, I think that both are great but for this very specific reason, valo is funnier to watch and to play than CS (And it also is why top tier duelists on jett or reyna also are incredible to watch, cuz they are pure skill diffing the enemies)

utility should come on better timings, that's the point of CS, proper utility usage burns down the site completely

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Just watch this clip by Stewie. Valorant pros could never.

https://youtu.be/rGIsPyxiYJk?si=HcC6gw3Ml5YX7oYz

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UBClears [#36]

Just watch this clip by Stewie. Valorant pros could never.

https://youtu.be/rGIsPyxiYJk?si=HcC6gw3Ml5YX7oYz

And Stewie could never win a Majors in Valorant either.

I also never said CS is easier for Pros only. I meant for general public people including noobs.

Also perfect example, Stewie can never do what Demon1 does on Jett, Brimstone, Astra, Chamber.

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donkkomong [#37]

And Stewie could never win a Majors in Valorant either.

I also never said CS is easier for Pros only. I meant for general public people including noobs.

Also perfect example, Stewie can never do what Demon1 does on Jett, Brimstone, Astra, Chamber.

Semen1 in 2024 💀 one fluke event

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donkkomong [#37]

And Stewie could never win a Majors in Valorant either.

I also never said CS is easier for Pros only. I meant for general public people including noobs.

Also perfect example, Stewie can never do what Demon1 does on Jett, Brimstone, Astra, Chamber.

valorant is literally way easier for noobs,thats riots whole approach to the game like it is with league compared to dota

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IAmRichYouAreNot [#38]

Semen1 in 2024 💀 one fluke event

IHaveBrainYouDoNot

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IAmRichYouAreNot [#38]

Semen1 in 2024 💀 one fluke event

You know I meant 2023. But yeah he trashed out in 2024 but also remember it was a new squad which means different chemistry and gameplay style.

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gg321 [#39]

valorant is literally way easier for noobs,thats riots whole approach to the game like it is with league compared to dota

Yeah League is a noob game compared to Dota for sure

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gg321 [#11]

bro u dont even watch cs,u just called cologne a major final

Where did he say this?

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Flanderzz [#43]

Where did he say this?

he edited it where it says cologne 2024 now lol

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donkkomong [#42]

Yeah League is a noob game compared to Dota for sure

yes it is? How can u be this confidently clueless,u already exposed that u dont know shit about the whole cs scene by calling cologne a major and think u can talk about which one is harder,i bet u havent even watched or played dota in ur life and say this,its a very common take that dota is more complex than league and its true

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gg321 [#45]

yes it is? How can u be this confidently clueless,u already exposed that u dont know shit about the whole cs scene by calling cologne a major and think u can talk about which one is harder,i bet u havent even watched or played dota in ur life and say this,its a very common take that dota is more complex than league and its true

Read this again you dumb fuck
"Yeah League is a noob game compared to Dota for sure"

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donkkomong [#46]

Read this again you dumb fuck
"Yeah League is a noob game compared to Dota for sure"

oh my bad lol i tought u were being sarcastic

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donkkomong [#37]

And Stewie could never win a Majors in Valorant either.

I also never said CS is easier for Pros only. I meant for general public people including noobs.

Also perfect example, Stewie can never do what Demon1 does on Jett, Brimstone, Astra, Chamber.

Valorant = noob friendly game :D

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Nef0r0 [#35]

utility should come on better timings, that's the point of CS, proper utility usage burns down the site completely

I feel like you aint understanding my point, maybe I'm not expressing it clearly enough idk

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MrBlooBloom [#49]

I feel like you aint understanding my point, maybe I'm not expressing it clearly enough idk

valo just has more variety of utility, so that's why it's more unique and game turning I guess

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Nef0r0 [#50]

valo just has more variety of utility, so that's why it's more unique and game turning I guess

Yeah that's right too, in the end I feel like both game are much more different than what some might say

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