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hellolord

What is the hardest esports game right now? as in via game mechanics and game difficulty wise

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Chess

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Let him cook

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Has to be Valorant for me.

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League of legends the macro on this game is so much harder than anything in other games that you can put 5 challengers with cheats to play against T1,if T1 played 100 games they would stomp those 5 challengers with cheats 100/100 times, thats the kind of game league of legends is.

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Dota is harder tho

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macro is probably similar but mechanics? hell no, i already played it and the hardest combos in the game is like a fucking joke compared to a simple "air blade yasuo" or qiyana combos, i always heard how hard was to play invoker OMG SO MANY COMBOS and shit like that, bro you just have to remember the most useful ones and when you want to do something different you will always have time so you will not miss, the mechanics on dota is overrated as fuck, also dota 2 is so fucking slow like REALLY fucking slow compared to lol in every single way possible.

just search in youtube league of legends hardest qiyana combo and you will see how anything in dota does not come even closer to the difficult of that.

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I get what you say, since I am a qiyana main myself lmao

But dota in general is harder, like not literally the mechanics but the whole game. And mechanics aren't the main concern to pros, but the macro is

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you can die 2 minutes in the game in dota and that would be normal since the games are really slow, play top in master + in league and die 2 minutes to your lane, you will not even touch the wave anymore you will literally watch the game and if their jungler is good you will die again with a stack wave and the enemy top will have 1k gold lead and the game is over, the deaths in league is so much more impactful than dota,but you can be low elo in both games and never experienced this you will not be punished by a low elo player, in high elo you will not play the game if you pick like kayle top or some weak shit like that, the game will be over in 15 minutes.

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mechanics is like 30% of mobas difficulty lmao,dota is more complex than league

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macro plays a major role than mechanics in MOBA lol. dota def has complex macro here

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such complex macro that the west won multiples TI, tell me how many worlds the west has won in League again? without of course that mickey mouse worlds that there were no china and korea.

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the LEC teams in previous years have reached grand finals and won MSI before. if we apply the same logic here, only china has won a few TIs compared to EU. does that say anything about the topic here?

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Hyssopus1

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i will say again how many worlds the west has won with china and korea playing?

League has more than 10 years.

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how many TIs did asia win except for CN?

ur brain is not braining

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I'd argue a lot of esports are similar in difficulty although far older games are probably more difficult especially if they have an established meta

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rocket league and anyone who says differently is simply wrong and coping and lying.

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FIFA, the mental strength and persistence you need to have to play that game is out of this world. i almost didn't make it out alive from that game

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I've never watched pro FIFA, is it just Ultimate Team competition or do they play with regular teams? If it's UT then it's crazy that there's an esport with that insane p2w system... I just play player/manager careermode

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in FIFA PRO every PRO has unlocked every card but the twist is they have restricted rules, for example you can only have 2 icons and 3 players over 90+ and etc yk. So more squadbuilding the only thing thats really bad about fifa is the broken mechanics and the fucking SLOBFEST PAY TO WIN UT is

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ok, that's good i guess. thought it would just be a free-for-all where the pros that have money can just unpack the broken players and use those lmao

but yeah, FIFA being an esport with UT is... cringe. i feel like if PES had somehow survived (or at least, didn't try to change engines and rebrand) it could've become the esport of choice for the better general gameplay

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PES the only bad bad thing about PES is just the bad gameplay no offense, the ingame just feels sloppy but yeah miles better than FIFA with how they do career mode, UT

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Either LoL or Overwatch IMO

LoL because of how delicate a teamfight can be in a pro match, and little things like cs can influence the match at that level. A lot of cooldown managing as well, since you have to know your own cooldowns, your team's cooldowns, and the entire enemy team's cooldowns

OW because you need to be extremely good at aiming (unless you play tank -- then you have to be extremely good at not dying more than aiming) while also knowing cooldowns like in LoL

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hellolord

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Apparently I heard dota 2 is way harder than lol via game mechanics? so I wasn't sure

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LycheeBlade

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Could be, never played or watched Dota myself personally. Similar skills required, though

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I think in dota the fights are longer and more intense while in lol there one fight that goes like 50 seconds and a whole team is dead I could be wrong to never played dota

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yes it is.

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The way I understand it, league is mechanically a harder game but dota is unbelievably complex.
Basically they both are insanely hard in different ways

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R6

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laeDLaer

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cs2

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Tekken

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football manager 24

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bearmans

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strategically, dota. mechanically, league. fps games are in between those two.

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League and Dota actually insanely hard. The level difference between a high rank player to grandmaster then to pro is like bigger gap then iron to grandmaster. Valorant is still really new imo. The top teams aren't reaching like insane levels of skt consistency yet.

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Rainbow Six Siege is insanely difficult

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Hyssopus1

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if brazil is good at something you know you don't need intelligence to be good at it.

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The self burn is real

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Hyssopus1

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i am real bro why do you think we are good at fps games and utterly thrash at moba?

because we are stupid as fuck thats why.

Also league is so much more popular in brazil than CS and even with that we are REALLY bad in league.

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Fortnite

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cloudberry

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I'd say Brawlhalla but it's getting pretty old so maybe not

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R6 seems pretty hard. Pro matches always seems so tense and down to wire