ch0na

i don't understand why they have 4 slots:

eu has 4 slots
apac has 4 slots
south and north america have to share 4 slots

...and china gets a whole 4 slots?

besides the fact they aren't good, which i don'treally care about, why do chinese teams have the luxury to not have to compete with the rest of apac, asian and pacific teams will make up half of champions whilst north and south america have to share 4 slots and we won't be seeing any african teams

this strikes me as another odd decision by riot

name 1 relevant italian valorant pro now

Riot is a company. What do you think they want?

1 single person out of their 1 million concurrent players buying in-game stuff is richer than your whole family bloodline, that’s why

Same reason why Riot gives us AMERICANS and the EU shitters 3-4 slots too in League, to foster a competitive system for the region

chrlxz [#2]

name 1 relevant italian valorant pro now

Idk cayden? not really the point

Unfortunately Riot doesn’t your opinion

because china lots of people therefore money

Do you think merging APAC and CHINA is a good idea?
Because i think some CHINA teams can keep up with some of these APAC teams. It would be:
AMER 4
EMEA 4
ASIA 8 SLOTS

OnlyHereCosBored [#3]

Riot is a company. What do you think they want?

Greedy rit0

ct_fd_str [#8]

Do you think merging APAC and CHINA is a good idea?
Because i think some CHINA teams can keep up with some of these APAC teams. It would be:
AMER 4
EMEA 4
ASIA 8 SLOTS

no because thats literally 3 billion people in 1 region

cn region will keep developing and eventually get to rest of the world level

current EDG and FPX are better than likes of Talon and Secret

chrlxz [#2]

name 1 relevant italian valorant pro now

literally adds nothing to this conversation

chrlxz [#10]

no because thats literally 3 billion people in 1 region

cn region will keep developing and eventually get to rest of the world level

current EDG and FPX are better than likes of Talon and Secret

thats why they get 8 slots

enormous population

i think it should be like:

5 EU spots
6 NA spots
3 APAC spots
2 China spots

ct_fd_str [#8]

Do you think merging APAC and CHINA is a good idea?
Because i think some CHINA teams can keep up with some of these APAC teams. It would be:
AMER 4
EMEA 4
ASIA 8 SLOTS

Asia already has 8 slots, that's the point of the post, think china should have their t2 national league and have a team or 2 in the apac league, a much better slot distribution would look something like this:
4 eu
4 apac
3 na
3 sa
1 africa
1 for the last winners

SuperRoss [#9]

Greedy rit0

Yeah so its not really an odd decision

FNS_KITTEN [#14]

i think it should be like:

5 EU spots
6 NA spots
3 APAC spots
2 China spots

This is already better tbf

SuperRoss [#15]

Asia already has 8 slots, that's the point of the post, think china should have their t2 national league and have a team or 2 in the apac league, a much better slot distribution would look something like this:
4 eu
4 apac
3 na
3 sa
1 africa
1 for the last winners

u complain that vct cn level is too low yet you want an african team? looooool

3 brazil teams finished bottom of vct americas too

FNS_KITTEN [#14]

i think it should be like:

5 EU spots
6 NA spots
3 APAC spots
2 China spots

I might be biased, but EMEA has too many spots. 4 or 3 Spots for EMEA is enough

ct_fd_str [#11]

literally adds nothing to this conversation

convo is pointless

should we remove NA spots in league because there are 0 good NA teams ??????

moneymaxxing

chrlxz [#10]

no because thats literally 3 billion people in 1 region

cn region will keep developing and eventually get to rest of the world level

current EDG and FPX are better than likes of Talon and Secret

By that logic india should have their own tier 1 league, it makes no sense

Both will develop and improve, I'm sure of it, but they should have to compete with the rest of their continent like everyone else

Answer is very obvious, for tentatively equal representation of people. Population of South and north america combined is around 430 mil+579 mil = 1.009 billion and on the other hand the population of china is 1.425 billion.
I hope u got ur answer.

chrlxz [#18]

u complain that vct cn level is too low yet you want an african team? looooool

3 brazil teams finished bottom of vct americas too

Have you read my post? I am not complaining about the level of vct, i would simply like it to feature teams from all over the world is that so hard to understand?

chrlxz [#2]

name 1 relevant italian valorant pro now

name 1 relevant Br*t lmao😹🦷🫵🏻

SuperRoss [#24]

Have you read my post? I am not complaining about the level of vct, i would simply like it to feature teams from all over the world is that so hard to understand?

there is no point, its about the level of competition and money
featuring a team from africa just so they can get shit on? no one is gonna want to watch that

yes, you are restarted

I mean, china has their own league in lol and I've heard at the start ppl thought the same way abt them as we do chinese valo teams. They'll get better eventually give them some time.

anyth1ng [#25]

name 1 relevant Br*t lmao😹🦷🫵🏻

Fishy

FNS_KITTEN [#14]

i think it should be like:

5 EU spots
6 NA spots
3 APAC spots
2 China spots

and NRG still wont qualify

GYKM [#28]

I mean, china has their own league in lol and I've heard at the start ppl thought the same way abt them as we do chinese valo teams. They'll get better eventually give them some time.

It's not about how good they are, it's about how overrepresented asia will be in champions

anyth1ng [#25]

name 1 relevant Br*t lmao😹🦷🫵🏻

benjy ardiis boaster

yoccuu [#26]

there is no point, its about the level of competition and money
featuring a team from africa just so they can get shit on? no one is gonna want to watch that

Featuring a team from africa because they exist and should get a chance to at the very least qualify, money isn't everything and you will still get many high level games

SuperRoss [#31]

It's not about how good they are, it's about how overrepresented asia will be in champions

asia is so massive u cant really consider the people as just asians

an indonesian is completely different to a mongolian for example and the countries are like 5000km away

Best production quality across all 4 regions

SuperRoss [#31]

It's not about how good they are, it's about how overrepresented asia will be in champions

makes sense

Corporations run towards where money is, I don't know why people are still surprised by this. Its not like common people will not sell their soul to become rich too. Greed is a part of human nature

chrlxz [#34]

asia is so massive u cant really consider the people as just asians

an indonesian is completely different to a mongolian for example and the countries are like 5000km away

.

chrlxz [#34]

asia is so massive u cant really consider the people as just asians

an indonesian is completely different to a mongolian for example and the countries are like 5000km away

And a norwegian is completely different from a greek, a moroccoan is completely different from a south african, etc

I understand what you mean and respect it, i just disagree

Idk why ppl make arguments like this. Why is it most games want to reach China market cause there's billions of ppl there. No matter what a company acts for profit.

ssPennyss [#37]

Corporations run towards where money is, I don't know why people are still surprised by this. Its not like common people will not sell their soul to become rich too. Greed is a part of human nature

Unfortunately it is and i should definitely be less surprised than i was, but it still doesn't sit right with me

China is the only country that has Western amenities while maintaining strict cultural rules. Everyone will bend over backwards to appease whatever China wants. If that means they get their own closed region and custom game build with a greater say over how it's run, Riot will do it. In the short term, it's bad for the players and the sport. But in the long run, the players will get good, and China will trust Riot and let them run more games and stuff. It would be a lot harder to do later into the sport.

Ullyr [#40]

Idk why ppl make arguments like this. Why is it most games want to reach China market cause there's billions of ppl there. No matter what a company acts for profit.

And that doesn't upset you in any way?

chrlxz [#32]

benjy ardiis boaster

1. thats a vlr user
2. WHO
3. 😹

anyth1ng [#25]

name 1 relevant Br*t lmao😹🦷🫵🏻

Benjy
Boaster
Ardiis

Coaches: mini, neilzinho, Weber, bonkar, many more

You also have Mistic soulcas

Stfu

There are several reasons as to why RIOT would invest so much into China as to give them their own region and 4 Champs slots.

Playerbase: Large population = large playerbase = lots of money = more company funding

Infrastructure: China has the technology to support VCT level events at the highest level (best production)

Culture: Esports culture is very popular and being an Esports player is a very viable job. This compliments the fact that there are large companies that can gain sponsors and reputation/public interest from creating esport teams and competing in various games.

I'm sure there are more reasons but these are the main ones I could think of.

geospliced [#46]

There are several reasons as to why RIOT would invest so much into China as to give them their own region and 4 Champs slots.

Playerbase: Large population = large playerbase = lots of money = more company funding

Infrastructure: China has the technology to support VCT level events at the highest level (best production)

Culture: Esports culture is very popular and being an Esports player is a very viable job. This compliments the fact that there are large companies that can gain sponsors and reputation/public interest from creating esport teams and competing in various games.

I'm sure there are more reasons but these are the main ones I could think of.

All of these boil down to "money", and i don't like that :/

SuperRoss [#47]

All of these boil down to "money", and i don't like that :/

Regrettably that's just how it is I'm afraid.

sentinelmain377 [#45]

Benjy
Boaster
Ardiis

Coaches: mini, neilzinho, Weber, bonkar, many more

You also have Mistic soulcas

Stfu

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anyth1ng [#49]

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Engl0nd's best team below:

boaster
ec1s
dephh
soulcas
mistic

UrWaifu [#30]

and NRG still wont qualify

all good, NRG 2025 superteam

Been telling y'all that DFM can farm that whole region

FNS_KITTEN [#51]

all good, NRG 2025 superteam

Im a believer

It's a business.

Cause in china Valorant released late ( offically for everyone in china it was July 12, 2023 so basically only one year they got to play if china would have been grouped along with other region any of them, it puts them at a huge disadvantage considering other regions have been playing it for 4 years but china only 1 year, also Chinese people mostly don't know English and only Chinese thus it would further cause like which language should the official broadcast be in , chinese or English,

geospliced [#46]

There are several reasons as to why RIOT would invest so much into China as to give them their own region and 4 Champs slots.

Playerbase: Large population = large playerbase = lots of money = more company funding

Infrastructure: China has the technology to support VCT level events at the highest level (best production)

Culture: Esports culture is very popular and being an Esports player is a very viable job. This compliments the fact that there are large companies that can gain sponsors and reputation/public interest from creating esport teams and competing in various games.

I'm sure there are more reasons but these are the main ones I could think of.

Even the challengers in china are like held in arenas or something so yeahh

SuperRoss [#47]

All of these boil down to "money", and i don't like that :/

e-sports as it is right now is basically a dumpster fire most orgs go in the negative and the good ones are barely even honestly its such a bad invest i genuinely think that e-sports is just a cover up for money laundering so most games go where the money goes

same thing was said about APAC like 3 years ago now look where we are now lol. give them another year and they're prob on par with rset of the world

Ullyr [#40]

Idk why ppl make arguments like this. Why is it most games want to reach China market cause there's billions of ppl there. No matter what a company acts for profit.

not just billions of ppl, there are lots of very VERY rich mfs there.

Average_NA_fan [#50]

Engl0nd's best team below:

boaster
ec1s
dephh
soulcas
mistic

mibr would 26-0 ngl

yeah lets give india 4 slots too!

chrlxz [#18]

u complain that vct cn level is too low yet you want an african team? looooool

3 brazil teams finished bottom of vct americas too

https://www.vlr.gg/event/2095/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2/regular-season
Since when was EG a Brazilian team

China esports scene has crazy potential and is already a booming market. The amount of chinese orgs willing to invest in valorant far outweighs any region ( except sk iirc). Putting CN in apac is a disgrace to other apac countries

I don't know why no one's said this yet, but every region gets the same number of slots because that's just fair. They all work the same way, have the same number of teams, and use the same format. So there's no reason at all to have them each send a different number of teams.

KClaw [#55]

Cause in china Valorant released late ( offically for everyone in china it was July 12, 2023 so basically only one year they got to play if china would have been grouped along with other region any of them, it puts them at a huge disadvantage considering other regions have been playing it for 4 years but china only 1 year, also Chinese people mostly don't know English and only Chinese thus it would further cause like which language should the official broadcast be in , chinese or English,

#31

blx [#58]

same thing was said about APAC like 3 years ago now look where we are now lol. give them another year and they're prob on par with rset of the world

#65, not about how good they are

cloudberry [#64]

I don't know why no one's said this yet, but every region gets the same number of slots because that's just fair. They all work the same way, have the same number of teams, and use the same format. So there's no reason at all to have them each send a different number of teams.

Doesn't make sense for china to be its own region, they should have to go through continental matchups like everyone else

Shut up groupstageflopretics fan

SuperRoss [#33]

Featuring a team from africa because they exist and should get a chance to at the very least qualify, money isn't everything and you will still get many high level games

trying telling riot that lmfao
you think riot cares? what they want is money

Cu55Ku55_______ [#68]

Shut up groupstageflopretics fan

Fuck i hope not

chrlxz [#20]

convo is pointless

should we remove NA spots in league because there are 0 good NA teams ??????

yk whats crazy I would rather live in any of englands ex colonies than actually live in england

FNS_KITTEN [#14]

i think it should be like:

5 EU spots
6 NA spots
3 APAC spots
2 China spots

Nah, I think it should be like:

13 EU spots
1 NA spot
1 APAC spot
1 China spot

anyth1ng [#60]

mibr would 26-0 ngl

nt

Its actually the opposite way around lmao APAC is lucky that China wasn't merged into their region because when rito made franchising they were looking for the most popular/rich organizations that could participate in that region. Now comparing the APAC orgs to the Chinese orgs which one has more money? Easy answer, Chinese ones. So if China was forced to be in the APAC region then it would be like the Americas situation where there's going to be more Chinese orgs than any other subregion org (except for possibly T1 in terms of hard cash).

name 1 relevant antartican valorant pro right now

CatEffect [#72]

Nah, I think it should be like:

13 EU spots
1 NA spot
1 APAC spot
1 China spot

and still SHITEMA wont win anything

CatEffect [#72]

Nah, I think it should be like:

13 EU spots
1 NA spot
1 APAC spot
1 China spot

Dude really wants to give china a chance

SuperRoss [#43]

And that doesn't upset you in any way?

I mean it logically makes sense if you do some math.

SuperRoss [#9]

Greedy rit0

they want that their own region has a bigger representation than 0-2 slots from potential Pacific

keep understimate me and see you fav team got desotroyed

SuperRoss [#5]

Idk cayden? not really the point

relevant

Big player base ._.

SuperRoss [#67]

Doesn't make sense for china to be its own region, they should have to go through continental matchups like everyone else

It does make a lot of sense

K4ziuHa [#83]

It does make a lot of sense

elaborate, why is this special treatment not non-sensical

dsyre is not winning a map at ascension

Wezzaa [#85]

dsyre is not winning a map at ascension

they'd obliterate jft

Zeron [#87]

china winning it all. edg ab to 26-0 fut later

SuperRoss [#22]

By that logic india should have their own tier 1 league, it makes no sense

Both will develop and improve, I'm sure of it, but they should have to compete with the rest of their continent like everyone else

India has much less investment and money to compete in esports. China is full of em, and proved to be good at esports. India on the other hand have none. In china, esports goes mainstream, you dont see vct being in top 10 threads in any country but in china? Kk and edg beating loud was top 5. Walk around in shanghai and every child is wearing an edg shirt

SuperRoss [#15]

Asia already has 8 slots, that's the point of the post, think china should have their t2 national league and have a team or 2 in the apac league, a much better slot distribution would look something like this:
4 eu
4 apac
3 na
3 sa
1 africa
1 for the last winners

Coming from an african, africa should never have league until 1 makes ascension

SuperRoss [#33]

Featuring a team from africa because they exist and should get a chance to at the very least qualify, money isn't everything and you will still get many high level games

Africa has near no talent, no scene. Its pointless. I competed in an south african high school pro league. I did not manage to meet a single person there who watched vct because they simply dont care. Most school boot their val team and tell them to switch to csgo

SuperRoss [#84]

elaborate, why is this special treatment not non-sensical

China pulls in the same amount of views as all three regions combined, they have a concurrent player base of 1 million, a shit ton money in the orgs, simply put china is big enough to be its own region. Also if you combine china with apac, then you have to ask why is oce, sa/na africa not their own regions if this is purely based of representation. Its just stupid from a business angle

DownLoad_AimLabs [#71]

yk whats crazy I would rather live in any of englands ex colonies than actually live in england

the 13 colonies clear mainland Britain

blg beat nrg last year, fpx look insane, def top 6 team in the tourney rn, and trace just beat vit, emea's 2nd seed. seeds 2-4 btw

TE and FPX: